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Same. That's why I haven't been voting since the change. I'm confused.
We're doing 2 things right now, we're ordering tiers 6 and 7 (you get to rearrange every character in them no restrictions) , and for each tier you get to choose who you would promote or demote (-1 or + 1)
Ya thats true its just that her higher mobility with up-b ledge cancel, and her speed compared to the others just put her only slightly, but still above the rest of the low tiers. Also with most of
's "combos" you can basically air dodge out of them she requires hard mind games, that low level players will always fall for but high level players with most of the "combos" they will realize what you are trying to do and punish hard because as you said is bad.
You can't airdodge out of Samus's combos that utilize Up Air at all. The only way to escape it is with good DI and hope she doesn't get the first Up Air. You can only really airdodge the one that involves a 2nd Back Air. Samus's Up Air has very little to nonexistent end lag, meaning you can act before the opponent can. I also just want to point out that the sweetspot of Dash Attack does get less reliable as a combo starter as percents rise, but at higher percents, it can kill, so I suppose that's ok. At high percents, the sourspot will allow you to combo into your aerial combos again.Ya thats true its just that her higher mobility with up-b ledge cancel, and her speed compared to the others just put her only slightly, but still above the rest of the low tiers. Also with most of
If you watch ryo play doubles at TBH5 he hits the spike with Palutena continuously. Im pretty damn sure since i can land both Palutena's and my main marths spike, its around the beginning of the frames at the very middle near her feet. Also i had no idea samus's up air had that much priority and viability as a move (i have no idea how to use her) but i still dont think that should put her very high considering she is kinda maybe s**t tier.
Right... I suppose it's just learning to understand the move really. For example, when I learned Luigi's spike was timing based rather than position based, I started to get them more often. I'll look into it, thanks. And well Samus's Up Air isn't huge on priority, but it is arguably her best aerial, and it certainly is a viable move, quick on start up, and quick on ending, as well as little landing lag. It's a very safe move. I'm not trying to say Samus should be much higher up in the list. I am merely trying to help people get a better understanding of the character, and hopefully help them realize that Samus isn't the worst character in the game (even though it is clearly obvious she isn't when you know how to use her). I think it's fair for Samus to be low down on the list, but certainly not the worst character. If we are being really mean and harsh, the lowest position I could see Samus in would be 6th from bottom. I recommend you pick Samus up and learn some of her combos. She's really fun. Fun fact, I picked Samus up in this game about 7 months ago when she was widely considered one of the worst characters in the game (you know, along with Charizard back then) and when she had hardly anybody pushing her metagame. It's after learning her and understanding her strengths and weaknesses that my eyes opened and I realized to myself "Actually, Samus is actually pretty decent". Give her a try sometime!
You're missing Samus in tier 6Tier 6:
Tier 7:
-1 Mewtwo
-1 Zelda
Will do! haven't used her in a long long time. Good points thoRight... I suppose it's just learning to understand the move really. For example, when I learned Luigi's spike was timing based rather than position based, I started to get them more often. I'll look into it, thanks. And well Samus's Up Air isn't huge on priority, but it is arguably her best aerial, and it certainly is a viable move, quick on start up, and quick on ending, as well as little landing lag. It's a very safe move. I'm not trying to say Samus should be much higher up in the list. I am merely trying to help people get a better understanding of the character, and hopefully help them realize that Samus isn't the worst character in the game (even though it is clearly obvious she isn't when you know how to use her). I think it's fair for Samus to be low down on the list, but certainly not the worst character. If we are being really mean and harsh, the lowest position I could see Samus in would be 6th from bottom. I recommend you pick Samus up and learn some of her combos. She's really fun. Fun fact, I picked Samus up in this game about 7 months ago when she was widely considered one of the worst characters in the game (you know, along with Charizard back then) and when she had hardly anybody pushing her metagame. It's after learning her and understanding her strengths and weaknesses that my eyes opened and I realized to myself "Actually, Samus is actually pretty decent". Give her a try sometime!
yeah, sorry about that, but that was what WinterMelon did about kirby, and your comments reminded me.
It is position based. If you hit with his shoes you'll spike them no matter what point in the animation it's in.Right... I suppose it's just learning to understand the move really. For example, when I learned Luigi's spike was timing based rather than position based, I started to get them more often. I'll look into it, thanks. And well Samus's Up Air isn't huge on priority, but it is arguably her best aerial, and it certainly is a viable move, quick on start up, and quick on ending, as well as little landing lag. It's a very safe move. I'm not trying to say Samus should be much higher up in the list. I am merely trying to help people get a better understanding of the character, and hopefully help them realize that Samus isn't the worst character in the game (even though it is clearly obvious she isn't when you know how to use her). I think it's fair for Samus to be low down on the list, but certainly not the worst character. If we are being really mean and harsh, the lowest position I could see Samus in would be 6th from bottom. I recommend you pick Samus up and learn some of her combos. She's really fun. Fun fact, I picked Samus up in this game about 7 months ago when she was widely considered one of the worst characters in the game (you know, along with Charizard back then) and when she had hardly anybody pushing her metagame. It's after learning her and understanding her strengths and weaknesses that my eyes opened and I realized to myself "Actually, Samus is actually pretty decent". Give her a try sometime!
Sorry to bother you, but you can only vote for one character per tier. You have to either get rid of your Palutena vote or your Dedede vote. You can, however, vote for someone from tier 7 as well6:
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Cuz its time to slam now lol.
WOO! Slam time bebeh! Slaaaaayuuum!
Everyone knows that Ganondorf is S+++++++++++++++++ tier when it comes to Hype.
If you want to upvote/downvote someone, the rules say it's only one character per tier. So you can remove one of those downvotes and choose someone in Tier 7 to upvote, or just remove one of your downvotes if you'd rather not upvote anyone.6:
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I don't really get what's wrong with most of these placements. Sure, there's a few who are off, but I honestly think that how this tier list currently looks is way better than it has in the past.
Alright, I fixed it. Thanks for the notice.
I would not be so sure about it. He has regional results to be in top 10, but major tournament results? Nah. He was strong counterpick character and a noob slayer before. Now he is counterpick character and a noob slayer. He is still one of the better counterpick characters.
He is pure **** just like Lucario, DK and Ike. He is just trash. Bottom tier. All hail S tier Samus and Zelda!
I'm crying. Thats too F***ing good oh my jebus.
I'm so bad at reading sarcasm, I was gonna enter full rage mode half-way through this sentence.
It would have been even better if you could have edited a curved H next to "BULLS".
Order the characters in tier 6 and 7 in any way that you want, you then get one vote per tier to push a character in each tier either up or down 1. If a character in tier 6, gets more upvotes than anyone else, they will go up a tier. If the most voted on character in tier 6 gets voted down, they go down. Tier 7 can only have a character go up.
In my mind, the fact that he has a guaranteed 32% (I'm not sure on the exact percent, but it's somewhere around there) on Sheik definitely gives him some merit. Heck, anyone who has something that's good against Sheik gets merit in my eyes. I really think people are blowing this Luigi nerf out of proportion. It's sorta like what happened with Diddy after the second nerf. Yes, he's worse than he was before, but he's not dropping down to mid tier because of it. I still think he barely makes the cut, as I have him as the 10th best in the game, but he does nonetheless. The only other character I think could deserve to be Top 10 that's not Luigi is Falcon, but I have a whole plethora of reasons why Falcon isn't Top 10.
NOT IN ORDERIkr It's so confusing
And top 16 would be without order(the mode sensible one to me honestly)IMO, TOP 10 is
And I feel like Yoshi and Villager are the only people that could ever be cosndiered possibly that good
Ikr It's so confusing
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IMO Pac-Man and Villager should ne in there over the Pits and PeachAnd top 16 would be without order(the mode sensible one to me honestly)
