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Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

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I can't imagine beating Super Mario RPG without Peach, her heals are 2 gud.
 

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Yeah sorry I didn't mean to start picking it apart by debating their age, their proportions or the fanbase.

Wait that's wasn't me. lol
I only mentioned that when someone was asking why it was interpreted as an innuendo.

The age thing is an entirely different thing. It may have spun off from the picture but I have been legitimately curious as to their age and since some Splatoon fans chimed in I decided to discuss it with them. Is the natural development of conversation OK with you? Or does it make you uncomfortable?

The other two things were literally mentioned once not debated. lol.
 
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It's a very interesting viewpoint from ProJared for sure.

He's not laughing at any humor the game offers. I mean Etika is enjoying his walkthrough despite being asked to do pacifist, but Jared is not enjoying it at all.

Do you think if we get a game that surpasses Undertale in critical praise, do you think people will use Undertale fandom's mistakes as a step to make it a better community?
 

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It's a very interesting viewpoint from ProJared for sure.

He's not laughing at any humor the game offers. I mean Etika is enjoying his walkthrough despite being asked to do pacifist, but Jared is not enjoying it at all.

Do you think if we get a game that surpasses Undertale in critical praise, do you think people will use Undertale fandom's mistakes as a step to make it a better community?
No.
 

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It's a very interesting viewpoint from ProJared for sure.

He's not laughing at any humor the game offers. I mean Etika is enjoying his walkthrough despite being asked to do pacifist, but Jared is not enjoying it at all.

Do you think if we get a game that surpasses Undertale in critical praise, do you think people will use Undertale fandom's mistakes as a step to make it a better community?
No, fanbases are getting more and more rabid
 
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It's a very interesting viewpoint from ProJared for sure.

He's not laughing at any humor the game offers. I mean Etika is enjoying his walkthrough despite being asked to do pacifist, but Jared is not enjoying it at all.

Do you think if we get a game that surpasses Undertale in critical praise, do you think people will use Undertale fandom's mistakes as a step to make it a better community?
Entirely depends on the demographic.

The reason why Undertale's fanbase is the way it is, is because the majority of the people drawn to the game are the sort of people who only like obscure games, are SJWs, and are really whiny, demanding, and outspoken. And hang out on tumblr too much.

Basically, if the next big hit attracts that crowd, it's fanbase will be no different.
 
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It's a very interesting viewpoint from ProJared for sure.

He's not laughing at any humor the game offers. I mean Etika is enjoying his walkthrough despite being asked to do pacifist, but Jared is not enjoying it at all.

Do you think if we get a game that surpasses Undertale in critical praise, do you think people will use Undertale fandom's mistakes as a step to make it a better community?
No ****, Jared has shown he doesn't like getting bossed around playing video games. 'YOU NEED TO GRIND!' He was incredibly bitter from that, not to mention Etika doesn't show genuine reaction, but he acts.
Depends. I mean, Shovel Knight barely gets ANY criticism, fanbase included, Undertale has tedious gameplay by design and a horrible fanbase. It's not the critical acclaim or praise that's offputting, but the fanbase. If you say you don't like Undertale, you'll get swarmed, not to mention I never saw any reasoning for why Undertale got praise. The only time I saw the Shovel Knight fanbase flip their **** was when gamespot gave it a 7 despite only praising the game and naming no flaws
 

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Personally i pefer doing/watching a genocide run.You get harder boss fights and in my opinion much better music.Plus the fact the monsters are afraid of you makes idk more fun?Maybe i am a monster
 

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I heard some where that the obnoxiousness of a fandom is on a bell curve in relation to popularity

Nameley fanbases are at their worst when there's enough fans to raise a stink but not enough to dampen said stink.

Fans of Star Wars: Near everybody
Fans of my comic: They're all cool people, all 100 or so of them

Undertale, Steven Universe, Sonic the Hedgehog... That's where the problems lie.
 

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lol wow. How did you survive boss fights later on without the heals? Lots of Mushrooms?
Pretty much. Bowser pretty much became the healer, tanking hits and using items

He was also dealing the least damage out of the 3

I just couldn't have a team without him though. Having Bowser on your team is what attracted me to the game in the first place
 
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do you think people will use Undertale fandom's mistakes as a step to make it a better community?
>Internet
>Learning from their mistakes
You should be a comedian, dude
Meanwhile.
In Dreamland.
It's such a cute smiling cat
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SMRPG is like Xenoblade Chronicles.
You really only use 3 party members.
Or Chrono Trigger
But then Ocean Palace happens
And you have to use a character that probably doesn't even have any level 2 spells
Or equipment
Bonus Point if you kill Magus, then you're completely ****ed
 

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You should be a comedian, dude

It's such a cute smiling cat
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Or Chrono Trigger
But then Ocean Palace happens
And you have to use a character that probably doesn't even have any level 2 spells
Or equipment
Bonus Point if you kill Magus, then you're completely ****ed
The smiling cat is lower
 

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That's not what we are arguing. We're arguing about the fanbase. Seriously, the fact that Humantale exists says enough
you have an odd habit of fixating on one specific "undesirable" thing about something and assuming that's what it's all like
i very sincerely doubt the bulk of the fanbase cares about and/or would approve of the humantale thing
 

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You should be a comedian, dude

It's such a cute smiling cat
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Or Chrono Trigger
But then Ocean Palace happens
And you have to use a character that probably doesn't even have any level 2 spells
Or equipment
Bonus Point if you kill Magus, then you're completely ****ed
Who are the ones you use?

I picked based on my favorites
 

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That's not what we are arguing. We're arguing about the fanbase. Seriously, the fact that Humantale exists says enough
So? I've seen people humanize the cores and robots from Portal (such as Wheatley, probably the best and most common example of that) in fanart all the time, and I've never seen anyone say the Portal fanbase is awful.
 
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It is just a question that I am genuinely curious about with perspectives, I would like more substance in answers.

Looking at the Undertale fandom now, it is kinda getting more and more out of control, but I think the ones who force the Pacifist route are just the minority, it's just very loud. (Maybe I am underestimating the numbers)
 
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you have an odd habit of fixating on one specific "undesirable" thing about something and assuming that's what it's all like
i very sincerely doubt the bulk of the fanbase cares about and/or would approve of the humantale thing
I used that as an example. Admittedly, there are better examples. Case and point, the ProJared tweets. The fanbase keeps nagging that it has to be done in a specific way to be done right, and that's not fun. It's not playing the game, it's having a tourguide. Jared doesn't enjoy the game because the fanbase did their best to control him in his videos. AKA, the UT fanbase nagged at ProJared to play UT, ProJared thinks 'This could be fun!' and plays. UT fanbase keeps nagging at him because he's not 'playing it right' and demands him to do what they want, ruining the game they wanted ProJared to play for the guy
 
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oh my goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood

I found out that:

Guilty Gear Xrd is on PC
One Piece Pirate Warriors 3 is on PC (Thank god, I hate playing Musou on consoles cause of the jank frame rate lol)
Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm Revolution is on PC (ok I knew this was gonna happen, however I hope it's actually 60 fps and not 30 fps like that last one on PC.)

Glad Japan is embracing the PC Master Class.
 

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It is just a question that I am genuinely curious about with perspectives, I would like more substance in answers.

Looking at the Undertale fandom now, it is kinda getting more and more out of control, but I think the ones who force the Pacifist route are just the minority. (Maybe I am underestimating the numbers)
The first playthrough I watched, people forced the pacifist route on him, and pretty much everyone after has mentioned at one point they were told to play a certain way
 

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It is just a question that I am genuinely curious about with perspectives, I would like more substance in answers.

Looking at the Undertale fandom now, it is kinda getting more and more out of control, but I think the ones who force the Pacifist route are just the minority. (Maybe I am underestimating the numbers)
How well did Undertale do? Compare the sales to the people viewing Jared's UT LP
 
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So? I've seen people humanize the cores and robots from Portal (such as Wheatley, probably the best and most common example of that) in fanart all the time, and I've never seen anyone say the Portal fanbase is awful.
It's not about humanizing(physically) them though...
Who are the ones you use?

I picked based on my favorites
I always go with my favorites
First playthrough ended up with Chrono, Frog amd Robo
And I permanently switched to Magus after Chrono got killed
 
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I used that as an example. Admittedly, there are better examples. Case and point, the ProJared tweets. The fanbase keeps nagging that it has to be done in a specific way to be done right, and that's not fun. It's not playing the game, it's having a tourguide. Jared doesn't enjoy the game because the fanbase did their best to control him in his videos. AKA, the UT fanbase nagged at ProJared to play UT, ProJared thinks 'This could be fun!' and plays. UT fanbase keeps nagging at him because he's not 'playing it right' and demands him to do what they want, ruining the game they wanted ProJared to play for the guy
yeah that's definitely understandable
i can sooort of understand it because playing it once on neutral might make a person feel kinda...... "unsatisfied", i suppose?
and it's to avoid the players just dropping it and walking away, because the neutral endings can't even really be compared to the pacifist one
at the same time though yeah backseating is really dumb
 

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It is just a question that I am genuinely curious about with perspectives, I would like more substance in answers.

Looking at the Undertale fandom now, it is kinda getting more and more out of control, but I think the ones who force the Pacifist route are just the minority, it's just very loud. (Maybe I am underestimating the numbers)
eh i disagree.From every playthrough i seen omni's,grumps,etika's,alpharad's(who had it the worst has his fans made him reset the game halfway thorugh his genocide twitch run).Most fans force people to do pacifist run
 

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yeah that's definitely understandable
i can sooort of understand it because playing it once on neutral might make a person feel kinda...... "unsatisfied", i suppose?
and it's to avoid the players just dropping it and walking away, because the neutral endings can't even really be compared to the pacifist one
at the same time though yeah backseating is really dumb
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Undertale advertise itself with the multiple endings? If so, then the player who is unsatisfied will want more, and will end up playing the other endings, meaning they'll play more because they want to. I think that's what the UT fanbase is forgetting. They love the game because of their personal experience, not someone elses.
So? I've seen people humanize the cores and robots from Portal (such as Wheatley, probably the best and most common example of that) in fanart all the time, and I've never seen anyone say the Portal fanbase is awful.
Look at humantale. It's not that they are human that makes it cringeworthy, it's that they've all been listed at ' gay transman' 'demisexual' and blablabla. They added arbitrary things for their headcanons, though I remember some characters are canonically LGBT
 

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How well did Undertale do? Compare the sales to the people viewing Jared's UT LP
In terms of what?

eh i disagree.From every playthrough i seen omni's,grumps,etika's,alpharad's(who had it the worst has his fans made him reset the game halfway thorugh his genocide twitch run).Most fans force people to do pacifist run
It is interesting how the situation works for a super highly praised game, you would expect something to do really well, but the fandom ends up wrecking the experience. Kind of unfortunate, but I feel the Undertale fandom is focused on the positive side (with the community fanart, comic, remixes, fan games, etc.) for me to not call it a bad fandom.
 

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In terms of what?


It is interesting how the situation works for a super highly praised game, you would expect something to do really well, but the fandom ends up wrecking the experience. Kind of unfortunate, but I feel the Undertale fandom is focused on the positive side (with the community fanart, comic, remixes, fan games, etc.) for me to not call it a bad fandom.
Imagine UT sells 3 million or something and ProJared's video has say, 30 million. It's safe to say quite a large chunk of the fanbase is watching as from what I got is that they watch every UT playthrough they can, however, if Jared's video has 300 views, you can't say the majority acts like that
 

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Man seeing ProJared having a bit of a hype backlash from Undertale just shows how much this game has been pushed by fanboys.



Especially considering SomecallmeJohnny isn't even looking forward to the review when he does Undertale for his channel


I swear people's craziness over this game is gonna make it look worst than before. And it's gonna end up like most games that fell to hype backlash
 

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Grumps are probably going to have a bad time with undertale genocide

They skipped the pie and have said they plan on eating the snowman's pieces in front of him
 

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I've never heard anyone say that the Humantale picture was a good thing.

Me personally I think it's really creepy fetishization of the idea of LGBT and racial diversity. It's basically the author rubbing themself off as a real special person without actually being progressive. Also the fact that the only two white characters are the antagonists is pretty... telling.
 

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Look at humantale. It's not that they are human that makes it cringeworthy, it's that they've all been listed at ' gay transman' 'demisexual' and blablabla. They added arbitrary things for their headcanons, though I remember some characters are canonically LGBT
Undertale is far from the first fandom to suffer from crap like that. It might be more obscure elsewhere, but it's still there.
 

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Humantale is just one piece of fan art, I do not think that it would heavily affect the UT fandom.

Man seeing ProJared having a bit of a hype backlash from Undertale just shows how much this game has been pushed by fanboys.



Especially considering SomecallmeJohnny isn't even looking forward to the review when he does Undertale for his channel


I swear people's craziness over this game is gonna make it look worst than before. And it's gonna end up like most games that fell to hype backlash
Does he plan to do a walkthrough or just a review.
 
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