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Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

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IDK why people complain about the voices in the Sonic OVA.

They sound just like how I imagine the characters would sound.

I think they even sound pretty close to the modern interpretation of the voices. Although I don't know what voice they give tails these days
 

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I found out something interesting: The official Japanese Smash 3DS/Wii U website has a link to the official Final Fantasy VII website on the front page.

And said site covers all things Final Fantasy VII related (:4cloud:, PS4 remake, ports of PS1 version, and so on).

Interesting no other third party character getting the same treatment.
 
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So, questoon about XCX, how many classes are there and what are they? And can you reclass the other party members or just Cross?
 

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I found out something interesting: The official Japanese Smash 3DS/Wii U website has a link to the official Final Fantasy VII website on the front page.

And said site covers all things Final Fantasy VII related (:4cloud:, PS4 remake, ports of PS1 version, and so on).

Interesting no other third party character getting the same treatment.
So Final Fantasy 7 Remake NX Confirmed?
 

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I got showered and ready to go to class.

Apparently it starts next week....

Biweekly classes are confusing.
 

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I know it'll never happen, but it would be a dream come true if with Corrin and Bayonetta's release, the character select screen gets properly arranged.

It could be a nice reward for everyone who bought all the DLC characters.
It won't happen because it's ultimately unimportant, but I'd love it.
 

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So, questoon about XCX, how many classes are there and what are they? And can you reclass the other party members or just Cross?
TECHNICALLY
there are 16 classes.
Here's how it works, more or less.

After your base class, you go into one of three types. Those three types have two steps along that way, and then an "alternate" class with two tiers that use an entirely differet set of weapons but keep the same kind if idea.
NOBODY ELSE CAN RECLASS. INCLUDING CHARACTERS WHO AREN'T AT THE FINAL TIER OF THEIR JOB LINE.
WHICH IS A PROBLEM BECAUSE YOU WILL BE BETTER AT ANY JOB THAN THE PARTY MEMBER OF IT.
 

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I got showered and ready to go to class.

Apparently it starts next week....

Biweekly classes are confusing.
"MOM! I'm ready for school!"

"IT'S SUNDAY, GO BACK TO BED!"

"NEVER MIIIIND."
 

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Unrelated, but I really like the Fashion Gear feature of this game. I wish everyone RPG had it.
Mainly Dark Souls.

However, the fact you can't have fashion weapons is really disappointing though. My all-black protagonist doesn't look very cool with GIANT GLOWING PURPLE CHAINSAW SWORD.
I do know there are some MMOs that have something similar to the Fashion Gear features, but yeah, I would like to see this feature alot more in games that have customizable appearances.
That being said, next Xenoblade game better have a Dye system. Just cause I remember hearing there are armor pieces you can lose Forever and so I've been holding onto every unique armor piece that isn't in the Shop, but I'm more than certain a 1/3 of my armors are Tank Tops. I mean, it's really good that the game even has simple armor pieces you can put yourself in like basic shirts, jackets, jeans and even different length shorts to go with the unique armors of the game. But I shouldn't need to fill my armor inventory with 50 different tank tops just to keep a color that I want to use later.
 
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TECHNICALLY
there are 16 classes.
Here's how it works, more or less.

After your base class, you go into one of three types. Those three types have two steps along that way, and then an "alternate" class with two tiers that use an entirely differet set of weapons but keep the same kind if idea.
NOBODY ELSE CAN RECLASS. INCLUDING CHARACTERS WHO AREN'T AT THE FINAL TIER OF THEIR JOB LINE.
WHICH IS A PROBLEM BECAUSE YOU WILL BE BETTER AT ANY JOB THAN THE PARTY MEMBER OF IT.
Actually theirs are different types of classes overall.

All in all it doesn't matter for them because they get all the arts and skills anyway (Lin gets Bastion Warrior arts despite being a Shield Trooper, etc etc)
 

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I'm surprised no one hasn't talked about this:


I mean as a community, it's a shame that a lot of this stuff happens especially when people can't ever be mature about anything.


Especially when a fun player is forced to quit playing a game because a bunch of spoiled and rotten punks decided to be assholes. And plus the people who commented on this are people who are part of this community in a big way (Etika says something really smart and excellent)

It goes back to that situation where someone got Alpharad's phone number from ZeRo's stream and send fake threats to his family, which caused a lot of issues.


This isn't something to bring up for drama sake but just to inform people about how to separate the celebrity status of players and YouTubers and them being real people.

Edit: There's also profanity but it's mostly minor
 
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I'm surprised no one hasn't talked about this:


I mean as a community, it's a shame that a lot of this stuff happens especially when people can't ever be mature about anything.


Especially when a fun player is forced to quit playing a game because a bunch of spoiled and rotten punks decided to be ********. And plus the people who commented on this are people who are part of this community in a big way (Etika says something really smart and excellent)

It goes back to that situation where someone got Alpharad's phone number from ZeRo's stream and send fake threats to his family, which caused a lot of issues.


This isn't something to bring up for drama sake but just to inform people about how to separate the celebrity status of players and YouTubers and them being real people.

There's also profanity but it's mostly minor
We have talked about it though.
 

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I'm surprised no one hasn't talked about this:


I mean as a community, it's a shame that a lot of this stuff happens especially when people can't ever be mature about anything.


Especially when a fun player is forced to quit playing a game because a bunch of spoiled and rotten punks decided to be ********. And plus the people who commented on this are people who are part of this community in a big way (Etika says something really smart and excellent)

It goes back to that situation where someone got Alpharad's phone number from ZeRo's stream and send fake threats to his family, which caused a lot of issues.


This isn't something to bring up for drama sake but just to inform people about how to separate the celebrity status of players and YouTubers and them being real people.
4chan had a debate on this, whether it's wrong, or whether it's to 'get rid of the weak, and bring in the devoted players'. I personally think every player deserves respect. If they lose? Tell them what they did right, or even advice if they aren't good at all! Not drive them away! More players means more ways to play, which means different characters or different strategies. It freshens everything up. No reason to be toxic. I remember Dabuz getting yelled and booed for using Rosalina, even if he ends up losing, he still gets booed for his character. It's why I don't like Leffen, he's a major **** who's been banned from tournaments because of harassment iirc. They should ban harassers more often. Now ESAM here, I like him. Not just because he seems human here for being concerned about others, but he seems nice overall
 

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For Smash 5, would you rather: a Subspace campaign with cutscenes like Brawl or pre-release trailers like Smash Wii U/3DS?
 

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The problem isn't a Smash exclusive problem.

It's the ****tiness of a lot of gamers who get salty about OTHER people playing the game and trolls (a lot of them are trolls).

Not much we can do.
 

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I do know there are some MMOs that have something similar to the Fashion Gear features, but yeah, I would like to see this feature alot more in games that have customizable appearances.
That being said, next Xenoblade game better have a Dye system. Just cause I remember hearing there are armor pieces you can lose Forever and so I've been holding onto every unique armor piece that isn't in the Shop, but I'm more than certain a 1/3 of my armors are Tank Tops. I mean, it's really good that the game even has simple armor pieces you can put yourself in like basic shirts, jackets, jeans and even different length shorts to go with the unique armors of the game. But I shouldn't need to fill my armor inventory with 50 different tank tops just to keep a color that I want to use later.
Oh god, yeah.
The worst is that I have duplicates of certain colors...

They should really make every item you unlock available in the shop or something.
Actually, maybe just give the player an omnipresent wardrobe of everything you'd ever bought or collected...

They should patch that in along with the breast slider. :p
 

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Actually theirs are different types of classes overall.

All in all it doesn't matter for them because they get all the arts and skills anyway (Lin gets Bastion Warrior arts despite being a Shield Trooper, etc etc)
One issue.
They don't get the skill SLOTS of the promoted class.
Lin may get all the skills, but can't equip a combination of 4 like she should.
And there's effectively no reason for this. Her upgrade could've been automatic after hitting R20.

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For Smash 5, would you rather: a Subspace campaign with cutscenes like Brawl or pre-release trailers like Smash Wii U/3DS?
Trailers.
They build more hype and take less development time.
 
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4chan had a debate on this, whether it's wrong, or whether it's to 'get rid of the weak, and bring in the devoted players'. I personally think every player deserves respect. If they lose? Tell them what they did right, or even advice if they aren't good at all! Not drive them away! More players means more ways to play, which means different characters or different strategies. It freshens everything up. No reason to be toxic. I remember Dabuz getting yelled and booed for using Rosalina, even if he ends up losing, he still gets booed for his character. It's why I don't like Leffen, he's a major **** who's been banned from tournaments because of harassment iirc. They should ban harassers more often. Now ESAM here, I like him. Not just because he seems human here for being concerned about others, but he seems nice overall
I really wouldn't use 4chan as an example of discussion. They would defend the asshole players and people who do stupid stuff as something like Mang0 throwing his EVO medal in the crowd.


My biggest issue is how people don't know how to handle mature stuff and act like kids. It's why the FGC in general look down on Smash players.

They're grimy, uncultured, disrespectful and not in the :ganondorf: way, not as helpful and the biggest bunch of babies to ever exist. It's why I don't like them being "e-sports" because they can't handle being professional at all and get all upset when the commentators, TOs, players and streamers try to do that.
 

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The gaming communities have their good share of immature brats. And I do feel this number is only prone to increase in the future, unfortunately.

Sure, there are plenty of people around my age... Well, I don't believe age is just a number.

A 20-year-old can be as much of a child as a 10-year-old kid provided the maturity is the same... And I've met kids with more maturity than some people that happen to be older than myself (and I'm 22, turning 23 this year).

Some people just have toxic and negative behavior and it really can't be helped.
 

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I really wouldn't use 4chan as an example of discussion. They would defend the ******* players and people who do stupid stuff as something like Mang0 throwing his EVO medal in the crowd.


My biggest issue is how people don't know how to handle mature stuff and act like kids. It's why the FGC in general look down on Smash players.

They're grimy, uncultured, disrespectful and not in the :ganondorf: way, not as helpful and the biggest bunch of babies to ever exist. It's why I don't like them being "e-sports" because they can't handle being professional at all and get all upset when the commentators, TOs, players and streamers try to do that.
I know, but most people agreed that toxic community is bad from what I saw. 4chan's still got humanity at times after all
 

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I really wouldn't use 4chan as an example of discussion. They would defend the ******* players and people who do stupid stuff as something like Mang0 throwing his EVO medal in the crowd.


My biggest issue is how people don't know how to handle mature stuff and act like kids. It's why the FGC in general look down on Smash players.

They're grimy, uncultured, disrespectful and not in the :ganondorf: way, not as helpful and the biggest bunch of babies to ever exist. It's why I don't like them being "e-sports" because they can't handle being professional at all and get all upset when the commentators, TOs, players and streamers try to do that.
You just described the Street Fighter Community. :troll:

But really, I don't get the grimy part.

What?
 
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For Smash 5, would you rather: a Subspace campaign with cutscenes like Brawl or pre-release trailers like Smash Wii U/3DS?
Adventure. Even though I liked the trailers a lot more than subspace as a whole, I'd love to see another story mode, just done better than subspace. And as mentioned above, we'd get actual bosses.
 
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You just described the Street Fighter Community. :troll:

But really, I don't get the grimy part.

What?
I mean the most disgusting, ill will and assholish people to exist.


The type of people who steal (see what happen at EVO last year)

The type who will treat events like trash and don't care (that awful crowd at APEX 2015)

Support thieving, lying and just being an overall ugly person.

And just doesn't care about people's feelings and thoughts.
 

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For Smash 5, would you rather: a Subspace campaign with cutscenes like Brawl or pre-release trailers like Smash Wii U/3DS?
Both.

I'd love CGI animated shorts inter-spliced with gameplay footage featuring and introducing Smash characters.
The character interactions of Subspace Emissary with the hype of the trailers.
 

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Trailers.

The gimmick of the character interactions of SSE wears off pretty quickly for me considering they aren't the characters' real personalities most of the time and they mainly amount to HEY LOOK BAD GUYS LETS GET THEM.
 

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Trailers.

The gimmick of the character interactions of SSE wears off pretty quickly for me considering they aren't the characters' real personalities most of the time and they mainly amount to HEY LOOK BAD GUYS LETS GET THEM.
That and the limited to no dialogue doesn't help a bit in a sense.

Plus, it's gonna require doing the whole generic world SSE had.


I hated that. No Mushroom Kingdom, no Hyrule, no Dreamland and everything looked dead and lifeless as hell (but that's due to Brawl's artstyle)
 

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Trailers.

The gimmick of the character interactions of SSE wears off pretty quickly for me considering they aren't the characters' real personalities most of the time and they mainly amount to HEY LOOK BAD GUYS LETS GET THEM.
AKA why most crossovers don't really work in character interaction in general.

Which is why I'm far more grateful atlus went they route they did for #FE, in spite of the outcry
 

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AKA why most crossovers don't really work in character interaction in general.
It can be done though.

Apparently Project X Zone and Namco X Capcom was good at it.

As was Street Fighter X Tekken.

And Mahvel baby!
 

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It can be done though.

Apparently Project X Zone and Namco X Capcom was good at it.

As was Street Fighter X Tekken.

And Mahvel baby!
To a lesser extent, Cross Edge and Trinity universe though the latter is very niche.
Possible, yes.
But it goes wrong too many times to get excited over minimal information.
 
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It can be done though.

Apparently Project X Zone and Namco X Capcom was good at it.

As was Street Fighter X Tekken.

And Mahvel baby!
Yep. Personally, from my own experience the best character interaction in a crossover though would be in SvC thanks to the intro dialogues.

I ansolutely love these, I was really glad to see that they were in KoF 13.
 

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It can be done though.

Apparently Project X Zone and Namco X Capcom was good at it.

As was Street Fighter X Tekken.

And Mahvel baby!
They worked in the sense of limited situations and just small references.

Smash only does that once with Palutena's Guidance and the Star Fox conversations.
And it's not enough.

Why doesn't :4fox:&:4falco: make a small quip about the F-Zero/G-Zero similarities when they see :4falcon:?

Why don't I see :4littlemac: and Doc reference :4mario: being a referee and their match with :4dk:?

Why doesn't :4wiifit: joke about how unhealthy and lazy :4dedede: is?

Why doesn't :4lucina:&:4shulk: talk about the future and all that jazz?

Why can't I see :4ryu: being fascinated about a fighter like :4lucario:?

Why won't :4megaman: mistake :4rob: for a Robot Master?

WHY WON'T :4sonic: CALL :4darkpit: A FAKER?


It's why crossovers work there but not in other things
 

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They worked in the sense of limited situations and just small references.

Smash only does that once with Palutena's Guidance and the Star Fox conversations.
And it's not enough.

Why doesn't :4fox:&:4falco: make a small quip about the F-Zero/G-Zero similarities when they see :4falcon:?

Why don't I see :4littlemac: and Doc reference :4mario: being a referee and their match with :4dk:?

Why doesn't :4wiifit: joke about how unhealthy and lazy :4dedede: is?

Why doesn't :4lucina:&:4shulk: talk about the future and all that jazz?

Why can't I see :4ryu: being fascinated about a fighter like :4lucario:?

Why won't :4megaman: mistake :4rob: for a Robot Master?

WHY WON'T :4sonic: CALL :4darkpit: A FAKER?


It's why crossovers work there but not in other things
I mean.
For one of these.
Shulk has limited visions of the future as a "6th" sense which awakens when he uses the Monado.
He's not... from it.
 
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