Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

[Opossum]

I don't know how to photoshop things though... :/

It's literally just:


1. Open image in Paint.
2. Pick the Line tool.
3. Draw a line.


That's not hard at all.

 

[NintenZ]

It's literally just:


1. Open image in Paint.
2. Pick the Line tool.
3. Draw a line.


That's not hard at all.

Alright, and how do I get the link?

 

[Khoru]

Alright, and how do I get the link?

http://imgur.com/

 

[NintenZ]

http://imgur.com/

Okay, thanks for the help both you and Opossum !

 

[Coricus]

You know, I was told by a friend that Corrin is fanservice because of how unique he is...
So with that logic, if Slippy Toad was completely unique, would that make him fanservice?

Considering IIRC Slippy has shown up in more Star Fox games than pretty much any other non-Fox character except Peppy, FALCO AND WOLF INCLUDED. . .

Maybe not fanservice because he's a Scrappy, but I'd at least understand and to some degree support why he got the spot.

 

[KenboCalrissian]

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.Pretty big image so quick recap.Day 1 and we already got some deaths Opossum kills himself. KenboCalrissian dies from hunger and @epicmartin7 gets ambushed by Champ Black,Zoroark25, and Sonicbrawlee128

Uhm...

Was I supposed to do something? Nobody explained any rules to me, even though I asked like 3 times.

 

[Strofirko]

Uhm...

Was I supposed to do something? Nobody explained any rules to me, even though I asked like 3 times.

You serious?
*Insert gif from spiderman here*

 

[Chrono.]

Uhm...

Was I supposed to do something? Nobody explained any rules to me, even though I asked like 3 times.

It's automated.

https://brantsteele.net/hungergames/disclaimer.php

 

[KenboCalrissian]

You serious?
*Insert gif from spiderman here*

What was the point of this pointless reply?

Thank you, Chrono. . At least someone bothered to explain.

 

[Strofirko]

What was the point of this pointless reply?

I was joking for the fact you didn't know this meme,sorry if it felt flat.

 

[FalKoopa]

I don't know how to photoshop things though... :/

Pixlr.com is a free online image editing tool.
Would be a bit quicker.

 

[Bananija]

Well this took an unexpected but hilarious twist...

 

[Deleted member]

Considering IIRC Slippy has shown up in more Star Fox games than pretty much any other non-Fox character except Peppy, FALCO AND WOLF INCLUDED. . .

Maybe not fanservice because he's a Scrappy, but I'd at least understand and to some degree support why he got the spot.

Fanservice would be if he was the new Pichu.

Because let's face it, most people associate Slippy with being incompetent as a fighter.

 

[SmashChu]

Time to go through the responses. Note I picked these basically at random

It doesn't need to, but they are popular requests. You might brush this off, but most of the Nintendo characters who didn't make it in yet are basically nobodies in the grand scheme of things. Bayonetta might not be the best selling series, but she was a popular pick and turned plenty of heads- probably more than someone like K. Rool would.

Allow me to present Lunara

Lunara is in an odd place in Warcraft lore, she is the daughter of Cenarius who was a hero unit in Warcraft 3. She is vaguely mentioned to exist ("his daughter") but there was no mention of her existence before. So she is half a new character but is derived from Warcraft lore. You may say she is a nobody, but this hasn't stopped her from popping up in almost every game I play of Heroes. People are not shying away from this character despite her being a nobody. In fact, Heroes of the Storm features over 20 Warcraft characters. So obviously that means there will be some vague and obscure characters in the mix, but this isn't stopping people from enjoying them. By focusing on a few series, the designers are able to create more interesting characters.

I'd argue that the third party characters are more boring. If you have only the biggest names, it gets dull. Smash has been interesting because you have big names and some more obscure ones. Look at say Jiggglypuff. People love her despite being an obscure choice. But by focusing so much on third party characters, you can never have a character like Jigglypuff again. It has to be the big names, and, again, its that Sakurai is scared that people will not like lesser Nintendo characters. Lunara throws this out the window. As does Valla. As does Sgt Hammer. As does Lt Moralas. The issue is Sakurai is not embracing Nintendo's lore, but Heroes is doing well because it is embracing and celebrating the lore. Blizzard doesn't care if they do something a little out there because you still have Jania, Raynor, Diablo and so on. Smash will always have Mario, Link. and Pikachu.

To close, let's look at Zelda. Folks have complained that there aren't enough characters, but that is a direct result of Sakurai being afraid of Nintendo lore. Hyrule Warriors showed that people do like these other Zelda characters. Midna and Darunia were both is titles that sold over 7 million, more than any one Fire Emblem game. So is there an issue with having them in Smash. The only issue is Sakurai not thinking folks will recognize them.

64 and Melee had only Nintendo characters, but Smash is bigger than that now. It feels like there's no going back.

I discussed this a bit in A Return to Form, but the series will likely have to go back. The next game will have to have cuts and there is no way that Nintendo can bring all 6 of the third party characters back. It also become more work to add more and more to these characters and fans are getting more and more frustrating with the number of guest characters. There is going back, and it makes the most sense given everything.

Because those 3rd party characters are fun and cool and appeal to a broader audience than nintendo only.

We dont get those fun and cool characters that appeal to a broader audience

Major flaw with your reasoning: people are not going to buy this game for one character. If they don't like Nintendo, they will not like Smash. Also, keep in mind most everyone is here for Nintendo. I would even wager to say you are Nintendo fans.

Also, why would a Nintendo character not be fun?

Because some of the most requested characters were third party, see Sonic, Mega Man, arguably Cloud and Bayonetta.
Limiting your options. What's the issue with having a small amount of third party characters? Nothing. Instead of being a Nintendo purist, you have to realize that if Smash had no third party characters, we might have less Smash fans too. MGS fans that weren't interested got interested because of Snake. Sonic was the sole reason I gained interest in Brawl when I was young. Mega Man was an absurdly high request considering how it hasn't done as well as other third parties. Pac-Man is THE gaming character, more than Mario. Ryu id THE fighting game character who has made crossover appearances before, so him being in Smash is less surprising. Cloud REVOLUTIONIZED JRPGS and quite frankly, helped people who aren't blinded by purism like you to experiment with other consoles And finally, Bayonetta. I think it's very safe to assume that not everyone who had the games voted for her and considering how well she was received outside of a teeny tiny vocal minority, lots of people are very excited, I know someone who loved her games, and after finding out she actually got in, he got Smash just because of Bayonetta

Same issue: if you don't like Nintendo, you wont like Smash. I understand you and a friend got in for one character, but when you have a game with 49 Nintendo characters, you probably like Nintendo.

 

[Chrono.]

I just thought of something.

Didn't transforming characters get cut because of 3DS limitations? It really makes me wonder how Corrin is going to work there, especially since they go full dragon for a couple of their moves (Counter being the most notable).

 

[Opossum]

Major flaw with your reasoning: people are not going to buy this game for one character. If they don't like Nintendo, they will not like Smash. Also, keep in mind most everyone is here for Nintendo. I would even wager to say you are Nintendo fans.

Also, why would a Nintendo character not be fun?

This is a hefty assumption, and likely an inaccurate one. I know at least two people on this board, and more in real life, that bought the game for one character specifically. In particular, it's from people who like Smash from a gameplay perspective, but hold off on buying it for one reason or another, only for that one character to make them sold on it.

 

[Strofirko]

I just thought of something.

Didn't transforming characters get cut because of 3DS limitations? It really makes me wonder how Corrin is going to work there, especially since they go full dragon for a couple of their moves (Counter being the most notable).

His transformations are move based,not permanent like

 

[A Distant Demon]

Time to go through the responses. Note I picked these basically at random

Allow me to present Lunara

Lunara is in an odd place in Warcraft lore, she is the daughter of Cenarius who was a hero unit in Warcraft 3. She is vaguely mentioned to exist ("his daughter") but there was no mention of her existence before. So she is half a new character but is derived from Warcraft lore. You may say she is a nobody, but this hasn't stopped her from popping up in almost every game I play of Heroes. People are not shying away from this character despite her being a nobody. In fact, Heroes of the Storm features over 20 Warcraft characters. So obviously that means there will be some vague and obscure characters in the mix, but this isn't stopping people from enjoying them. By focusing on a few series, the designers are able to create more interesting characters.

I'd argue that the third party characters are more boring. If you have only the biggest names, it gets dull. Smash has been interesting because you have big names and some more obscure ones. Look at say Jiggglypuff. People love her despite being an obscure choice. But by focusing so much on third party characters, you can never have a character like Jigglypuff again. It has to be the big names, and, again, its that Sakurai is scared that people will not like lesser Nintendo characters. Lunara throws this out the window. As does Valla. As does Sgt Hammer. As does Lt Moralas. The issue is Sakurai is not embracing Nintendo's lore, but Heroes is doing well because it is embracing and celebrating the lore. Blizzard doesn't care if they do something a little out there because you still have Jania, Raynor, Diablo and so on. Smash will always have Mario, Link. and Pikachu.

To close, let's look at Zelda. Folks have complained that there aren't enough characters, but that is a direct result of Sakurai being afraid of Nintendo lore. Hyrule Warriors showed that people do like these other Zelda characters. Midna and Darunia were both is titles that sold over 7 million, more than any one Fire Emblem game. So is there an issue with having them in Smash. The only issue is Sakurai not thinking folks will recognize them.


I discussed this a bit in A Return to Form, but the series will likely have to go back. The next game will have to have cuts and there is no way that Nintendo can bring all 6 of the third party characters back. It also become more work to add more and more to these characters and fans are getting more and more frustrating with the number of guest characters. There is going back, and it makes the most sense given everything.


Major flaw with your reasoning: people are not going to buy this game for one character. If they don't like Nintendo, they will not like Smash. Also, keep in mind most everyone is here for Nintendo. I would even wager to say you are Nintendo fans.

Also, why would a Nintendo character not be fun?

Same issue: if you don't like Nintendo, you wont like Smash. I understand you and a friend got in for one character, but when you have a game with 49 Nintendo characters, you probably like Nintendo.

Major flaw with your reasoning

Taking that post seriously

 

[Bananija]

I just thought of something.

Didn't transforming characters get cut because of 3DS limitations? It really makes me wonder how Corrin is going to work there, especially since they go full dragon for a couple of their moves (Counter being the most notable).

Didn't transforming character get a new moveset by transforming while Corrin just transform for awesome esthetic changes?

 

[Chrono.]

Didn't transforming character get a new moveset while they transformed while Corrin just transform for awesome esthetic changes?

That is also true.

I'm just hoping his spontaneous model changing doesn't affect the 3DS version's performance

 

[Opossum]

I just thought of something.

Didn't transforming characters get cut because of 3DS limitations? It really makes me wonder how Corrin is going to work there, especially since they go full dragon for a couple of their moves (Counter being the most notable).

It's not a new transformation; honestly it's no different than Pac-Man entering his circular form for a few moves. It's not a new model used for a completely different moveset; it's a quick model alteration for one move at a time.

 

[FalKoopa]

I just thought of something.

Didn't transforming characters get cut because of 3DS limitations? It really makes me wonder how Corrin is going to work there, especially since they go full dragon for a couple of their moves (Counter being the most notable).

Zelda and Samus involved swapping one character for another. Meaning that the transformation character always has to be kept in memory while the other one is in play.

Corrin doesn't swap into another character, his is only a model changing/deforming, not unlike Mario's fists growing when he does a punch or Yoshi's tongue. In fact, Corrin would require less processing power than RosaLuma.

 

[KenboCalrissian]

I just thought of something.

Didn't transforming characters get cut because of 3DS limitations? It really makes me wonder how Corrin is going to work there, especially since they go full dragon for a couple of their moves (Counter being the most notable).

I was thinking the same thing... but I think that Corrin's 'transformation' is a bit exaggerated. It's not a permanant transformation, it just seems to be long enough to execute the move.

Still, it'll be interesting to see how Corrin's hurtboxes work given all the shape changing s/he's doing...

 

[IceBreakerXY]

Nothing happens on night 1 but day 2.welll

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recap. A Distant Demon kills @AreJay25. Kenith kills @PsychoIncarnate, @Champ Black and @CyberHyperPhoenix .Lastly @Fumi Got SSB4 DLC Right! kills Chrono. . That was day 2

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So night 2 is death fulled aint it. Con0rrrr is killed off by FrostWraith. @Kenith kills Spazzy_D and @Fumi Got SSB4 DLC Right! kills Tree Gelbman .so yeah that's a thing

 

[Bedoop]

It's not a new transformation; honestly it's no different than Pac-Man entering his circular form for a few moves. It's not a new model used for a completely different moveset; it's a quick model alteration for one move at a time.

I wonder what would happen if you made Dragon!Corrin's animations have Default Corrin's model
Monkey D. Corrin + Extreme Neck Pains
Probably

 

[Spazzy_D]

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So night 2 is death fulled aint it. Con0rrrr is killed off by FrostWraith. @Kenith kills Spazzy_D and @Fumi Got SSB4 DLC Right! kills Tree Gelbman .so yeah that's a thing

I'd be pissed @Kenith if I wasn't so dead.

 

[Chrono.]

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So night 2 is death fulled aint it. Con0rrrr is killed off by FrostWraith. @Kenith kills Spazzy_D and @Fumi Got SSB4 DLC Right! kills Tree Gelbman .so yeah that's a thing

Fumi has been savage through all this wtf

 

[FalKoopa]

Fumi has been savage through all this wtf

It's called Beware the Cute Ones

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

Fumi has been savage through all this wtf

We all doubted his choices.
Now we must pay the price.

 

[Curious Villager]

I don't think Corrin's dragon form is any different from Sonic turning into a ball, Bowser going into his shell model or Pac-Man turning into his pizza shape form. It's only a quick model change he quickly turns into and then goes back. Not like changing into a whole different character with their own moveset and everything.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

FUMI.

I'VE BEEN YOKAIED!

AVENGE ME SWAMP! AVENGE MEEEEEE!

 

[SmashChu]

This is a hefty assumption, and likely an inaccurate one. I know at least two people on this board, and more in real life, that bought the game for one character specifically. In particular, it's from people who like Smash from a gameplay perspective, but hold off on buying it for one reason or another, only for that one character to make them sold on it.

Anecdotal evidence is not real evidence. Even if some people do buy the game for a single character, does that mean most will. Think about it logically. Would someone not want Smash Brothers, than sit at the computer and see a third party character, and all of a sudden do a 180. Like, the reason they didn't want to buy it before was because they character don't interest them. But not there is one character plus all of those other characters that don't interest them. I doubt most people would buy a 60 dollar game just because there is a single character they care about and a bunch they don't.

The people asking for third party characters are Smash Brothers fans so they clearly like Nintendo already.

 

[Con0rrrr]

If I had known my character was on the verge of suicide I would have acted more in character

 

[Starlight_Lily]

Considering IIRC Slippy has shown up in more Star Fox games than pretty much any other non-Fox character except Peppy, FALCO AND WOLF INCLUDED. . .

Maybe not fanservice because he's a Scrappy, but I'd at least understand and to some degree support why he got the spot.

Actually, Fox Slippy, Peppy and Falco have been in ALL Star Fox games, Wolf wasn't in Adventures or the original. Wolf has only been in 64, Assault, Command and 643D so far.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm still waiting for Fumi to kill Push with his bare hands while eating what is left of the others

 

[Wario Bros.]

Actually, Fox Slippy, Peppy and Falco have been in ALL Star Fox games, Wolf wasn't in Adventures or the original. Wolf has only been in 64, Assault, Command and 643D so far.

And Star Wolf appears in Star Fox 2 as well (but doesn't count due to being canceled).

 

[IceBreakerXY]

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So night 2 is death fulled aint it. Con0rrrr is killed off by FrostWraith. @Kenith kills Spazzy_D and @Fumi Got SSB4 DLC Right! kills Tree Gelbman .so yeah that's a thing

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Day 3. @Swampasaur kills @tehponycorn literally stabbing him in the back. A Distant Demon is killed by @zoroark25 while @Kenith and @sonicbrawler182 is killed by an infection

 

[Pokechu]

anyone who tells me Jynx is bad can die in a ditch >:^( u know u lying

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ubers-307331608

 

[Schnee117]

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Day 3. @Swampasaur kills @tehponycorn literally stabbing him in the back. A Distant Demon is killed by @zoroark25 while @Kenith and @sonicbrawler182 is killed by an infection

IRL image of Swamp right now:

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I'd like to think Swamp said "Surprise!" there as well.

 

[Deleted member]

Swamp sometimes is a dirty Spy. I can attest to that.

He backstabbed me once.
Then next we met he died of lead poisoning.
.....and enough bullet holes to make him Swiss cheese.