Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

[Chrono.]

Uhhhhh....
I dunno what to even say to this.

We've gone full "Ridley in the Clouds" at this point.

 

[AreJay25]

The colors in the announcement video clearly reference Sonic Colors.

The Wisps are going to be playable.

 

[Shadowwolflink]

I still think it's more likely that the colours in the announcement text were hinting at a Subspace sequel.

 

[A Distant Demon]

@Zoroarking
I now own EO millennium girl.

This better not suck. Any suggestions for the early game to make this as enjoyable as possible?

 

[PushDustIn]

Excuse my language...
I had really hoped that with Clouds announcement people would actually take a moment and learn about this kind of stuff. I don't even care if the use SG itself, I just hoped it would encourage a discussion.

But I still see people with their heads up their ass, and haven't learned a damn thing.

...I expect too much from people I guess.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

The colors in the announcement video clearly reference Sonic Colors.

The Wisps are going to be playable.

No joke, the Wisps would be awesome items.

It sucks that none of the third parties (besides Namco) have items.

 

[AreJay25]

No joke, the Wisps would be awesome items.

It sucks that none of the third parties (besides Namco) have items.

Agreed.

Sonic and Mega Man have quite a few things they could have brought to the table.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

@Zoroarking
I now own EO millennium girl.

This better not suck. Any suggestions for the early game to make this as enjoyable as possible?

How much was it again?

 

[KenboCalrissian]

Uhhhhh....
I dunno what to even say to this.

Call this guy Dhalsim 'cuz that's one **** of a reach.

(Watch him be right though...)

 

[A Distant Demon]

How much was it again?

$10 because it is on sale.

Also I now know why everyone loves badge bunny. I now also love badge bunny.

EDIT I do hate Judd now though. He made it so I couldn't get a Marie badge. AKA my favorite Splatoon character. **** you Judd she was the only reason I tried for that catcher and it ends today. At least I got a Toad badge :/

 

[Naoshi]

i hate the badge bunny



hes too good

 

[N3ON]

Excuse my language...
I had really hoped that with Clouds announcement people would actually take a moment and learn about this kind of stuff. I don't even care if the use SG itself, I just hoped it would encourage a discussion.

But I still see people with their heads up their ***, and haven't learned a damn thing.

...I expect too much from people I guess.

That would sort of imply the fanbase was guided by logic and rationality in the first place.

Not so much. :/

If you make the female avatar's boob size the largest, she gains a special "Mammary Barrier" ability at Level 50. It's the best defensive move in the game.

trust me i 100percented dat gaem

bus ****er

 

[Champ Gold]

Excuse my language...
I had really hoped that with Clouds announcement people would actually take a moment and learn about this kind of stuff. I don't even care if the use SG itself, I just hoped it would encourage a discussion.

But I still see people with their heads up their ***, and haven't learned a damn thing.

...I expect too much from people I guess.

Push, this is the Smash community.

Did you really expect this dumb as hell fanbase to actually have common sense?
Really?

This is the same fanbase who regurgitate memes, thought Ridley was playable after he was deconfirmed in April and had to be deconfirmed again in October and anything revolving fake leaks.

Logic doesn't exist here. Only delusion and salt when reality slaps them on their ass.



Sorry for the rant

 

[Shadowwolflink]

Excuse my language...
I had really hoped that with Clouds announcement people would actually take a moment and learn about this kind of stuff. I don't even care if the use SG itself, I just hoped it would encourage a discussion.

But I still see people with their heads up their ***, and haven't learned a damn thing.

...I expect too much from people I guess.

Sorry for my ignorance, but what are you angry about? What's SG? I'm so confused.

 

[ChikoLad]

The overwhelming stupidity in large fanbases is basically why I end up having a "closet love" for most things in the end.

I want to discuss and gush about things but people are either too stupid or they're jerks and then I just stop trying and silently love the thing by myself.

 

[Babycowland]

Aren't we part of the Smash community too though?

I think it's totally fine to criticize some frustrating attitudes and behaviors of other Smash fans, but I'm not a big fan of elitism, especially when it comes to something like DLC speculation. So while I definitely agree that it'd be nice if people were informed about that stuff, people going out on a limb about speculation aren't really harming anybody as far as I can tell...

The overwhelming stupidity in large fanbases is basically why I end up having a "closet love" for most things in the end.

I want to discuss and gush about things but people are either too stupid or they're jerks and the I just stop trying and silently love the thing by myself.

Despite what I just said, I tend to be a closet fan too, haha (I guess I'm sort of a hypocrite). While some of the more troubling fan behaviors I've seen contribute to it, I mostly avoid talking about being a fan of the games/TV shows I like because of how some people who don't know a ton about them perceive them and their fans. On one hand, I don't want to reward that kind of prejudice about innocuous things. On the other hand, I don't really want to be someone who goes around telling everybody about their favorite anime to blank stares.

 

[Con0rrrr]

It still really annoys me how people use the term "Ballot Winners", or ask "Who won the ballot?'

It's such a stupid phrase, and it's so childish.

This is a suggestion box people.

They're not gonna show you any results. Why? Because then you'll just complain that #2 wasn't put in the game, and that #1 and #3 were. Then you'll complain that that is stupid. Then the fanbase will hate each other even more. Then Sakurai will get even more hate.

The guy isn't the brightest when it comes to some basic decisions. But the man damn sure knows how to handle a couple million whiners.

Chances are the #1 most suggested character won't be put in the game at all. Sakura may not like him. But #4 gives Sakurai a great vision so he works on putting them in the game.

Releasing any form of data would be the dumbest thing Sakurai has ever done. And you people know how many of his decisions I think were absolute crap. But that would top the list.

It just blows my mind how news sources like GX are still waiting for results and winners.

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

The colours behind the Special broadcast letters are obviously the green and yellow stage transition on smash 3DS Final Destination amirite?

 

[Chrono.]

The colours behind the Special broadcast letters are obviously the green and yellow stage transition on smash 3DS Final Destination amirite?

Makes more sense than every other other crockpot theory I've seen.

 

[ChikoLad]

Aren't we part of the Smash community too though?

I think it's totally fine to criticize some frustrating attitudes and behaviors of other Smash fans, but I'm not a big fan of elitism, especially when it comes to something like DLC speculation. So while I definitely agree that it'd be nice if people were informed about that stuff, people going out on a limb about speculation aren't really harming anybody as far as I can tell...


Despite what I just said, I tend to be a closet fan too, haha (I guess I'm sort of a hypocrite). While some of the more troubling fan behaviors I've seen contribute to it, I mostly avoid talking about being a fan of the games/TV shows I like because of how some people who don't know a ton about them perceive them and their fans. On one hand, I don't want to reward that kind of prejudice about innocuous things. On the other hand, I don't really want to be someone who goes around telling everybody about their favorite anime to blank stares.

With me I just often get to a point where the fan base is either overly negative in my experience, or just silly.

In the Smash fan base, it's the speculation elitism, the ignorance of a lot of the competitive oriented players, and general stereotyping. For a game that's supposed to bring the fans of different games together, it sure causes more of a rift than anything.

As a Rosalina fan, I have to deal with the constant misconceptions about the character from both fans and non-fans (e.g "SHE'S A PRINSHESH AND SHE'S PEACHY'S DAUGHTER FROM THE FUTURE"), the elitism from jealous Peach or Daisy fans, general salt the character generates (such as in the Smash community), and any semblance of correcting someone on something equalling me being an over obsessive "waifu***" or something.

As a Sonic fan I have to deal with constant "SONIC WAS NEVER GOOD", god damn Arin Hanson, furry accusations, etc.

And as a Rodea fan I have to deal with how everyone is only gonna play the bad versions of the game.

But yeah stuff like that is why I have completely declined in my forum visiting and what not. Smashboards is the only one of the three forums I frequented that I still visit at all, and even then, I've severely cut down on my usage of it.

 

[Opossum]

I really don't get the whole "I hate the 'ballot winner' term" mentality.

I, for one, think we're only going to get one character from it anyway, so yeah, in that case there would be a "ballot winner." Call it a suggestion box all you want, but do you really expect them to not go "This character did really well in the ballot so we put them in" when discussing one of the characters? It seems unreasonable not to expect them to reference it. And the whole "thinking-there'll-be-a-winner-is-idiotic" mentality I've seen from a lot of users here just reeks of unwarranted elitism, honestly. No, I'm not saying they'll show the results. But I think there'll be one character who Sakurai will mention got in due to ballot demand.

And yes, like it or not, that'd qualify as a ballot "winner" in my eyes.

 

[N3ON]

It still really annoys me how people use the term "Ballot Winners", or ask "Who won the ballot?'

It's such a stupid phrase, and it's so childish.

This is a suggestion box people.

They're not gonna show you any results. Why? Because then you'll just complain that #2 wasn't put in the game, and that #1 and #3 were. Then you'll complain that that is stupid. Then the fanbase will hate each other even more. Then Sakurai will get even more hate.

The guy isn't the brightest when it comes to some basic decisions. But the man damn sure knows how to handle a couple million whiners.

Chances are the #1 most suggested character won't be put in the game at all. Sakura may not like him. But #4 gives Sakurai a great vision so he works on putting them in the game.

Releasing any form of data would be the dumbest thing Sakurai has ever done. And you people know how many of his decisions I think were absolute crap. But that would top the list.

It just blows my mind how news sources like GX are still waiting for results and winners.

The ballot winners are the ones who will be made playable due to the ballot.

You're right in that because this isn't an election the #1 doesn't automatically get included, but that doesn't mean there won't be winners.

It's like a mix of a popularity contest and a job interview. Kind of. Both are important but neither is the sole factor.

That said, yeah, people expecting actual ranked results are dumb.

 

[ChikoLad]

I don't think Sakurai will say who he picked from the ballot directly but I expect him to imply it with something like "this character(s) is really popular and we saw a lot of fans wanted them so we put them in" which will give us an easy assumption to make.

I am also assuming anyone after Cloud is to do with the ballot unless stated otherwise. I also believe Cloud has nothing to do with the ballot unless we're told otherwise.

 

[Deleted member]

Aren't we part of the Smash community too though?

I think it's totally fine to criticize some frustrating attitudes and behaviors of other Smash fans, but I'm not a big fan of elitism, especially when it comes to something like DLC speculation. So while I definitely agree that it'd be nice if people were informed about that stuff, people going out on a limb about speculation aren't really harming anybody as far as I can tell...


Despite what I just said, I tend to be a closet fan too, haha (I guess I'm sort of a hypocrite). While some of the more troubling fan behaviors I've seen contribute to it, I mostly avoid talking about being a fan of the games/TV shows I like because of how some people who don't know a ton about them perceive them and their fans. On one hand, I don't want to reward that kind of prejudice about innocuous things. On the other hand, I don't really want to be someone who goes around telling everybody about their favorite anime to blank stares.

I don't see it elitist as much as seperatist, really. Because I just dislike rude people in general, really. Whether they be snobs or just mentally too young. And pretty much every fandom is filled with many of these people because.... Well, they're just the most vocal.

And I'm not really even here for smash, TBH. I'm really just here to talk here anout literally anything with people that are fresh to me. I mean, really, that's why I got back here. And I'm always active on a godzilla site called Toho Kingdom just because I still hang out with people I personally know there. I'm really never here for the fandom nowadays.

I really don't get the whole "I hate the 'ballot winner' term" mentality.

I, for one, think we're only going to get one character from it anyway, so yeah, in that case there would be a "ballot winner." Call it a suggestion box all you want, but do you really expect them to not go "This character did really well in the ballot so we put them in" when discussing one of the characters? It seems unreasonable not to expect them to reference it. And the whole "thinking-there'll-be-a-winner-is-idiotic" mentality I've seen from a lot of users here just reeks of unwarranted elitism, honestly. No, I'm not saying they'll show the results. But I think there'll be one character who Sakurai will mention got in due to ballot demand.

And yes, like it or not, that'd qualify as a ballot "winner" in my eyes.

Honestly, this. I think that's what at least some people mean by the winners.

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

Makes more sense than every other other crockpot theory I've seen.

Wait a minute, taking this a step further:

Green and yellow:

Cyan and Dark Blue

Light Red/ Pink and Purple:

Stop right there conspiracy theorists

 

[BandanaWaddleDee]

With me I just often get to a point where the fan base is either overly negative in my experience, or just silly.

In the Smash fan base, it's the speculation elitism, the ignorance of a lot of the competitive oriented players, and general stereotyping. For a game that's supposed to bring the fans of different games together, it sure causes more of a rift than anything.

As a Rosalina fan, I have to deal with the constant misconceptions about the character from both fans and non-fans (e.g "SHE'S A PRINSHESH AND SHE'S PEACHY'S DAUGHTER FROM THE FUTURE"), the elitism from jealous Peach or Daisy fans, general salt the character generates (such as in the Smash community), and any semblance of correcting someone on something equalling me being an over obsessive "waifu***" or something.

As a Sonic fan I have to deal with constant "SONIC WAS NEVER GOOD", god damn Arin Hanson, furry accusations, etc.

And as a Rodea fan I have to deal with how everyone is only gonna play the bad versions of the game.

But yeah stuff like that is why I have completely declined in my forum visiting and what not. Smashboards is the only one of the three forums I frequented that I still visit at all, and even then, I've severely cut down on my usage of it.

Peach has fans?

 

[N3ON]

Sakurai has referenced past "ballots" when talking about character inclusion, I don't see why he wouldn't here as well.

 

[The Slayer]

BandanaWaddleDee Well, there is one guy I knew that really liked her. I wonder that too.

 

[Z25]

Chances are the #1 most suggested character won't be put in the game at all. Sakura may not like him. But #4 gives Sakurai a great vision so he works on putting them in the game.

Releasing any form of data would be the dumbest thing Sakurai has ever done. And you people know how many of his decisions I think were absolute crap. But that would top the list.

It just blows my mind how news sources like GX are still waiting for results and winners.

Spoiler

Wait She's deciding the roster? No wonder why Ryu got in! That Sakura Bias!

 

[Shadowwolflink]

Wait a minute, taking this a step further:

Green and yellow:


Cyan and Dark Blue


Light Red/ Pink and Purple:

Stop right there conspiracy theorists

Maybe it's referring to some kind of sempiternity rocks!

 

[BandanaWaddleDee]

Spoiler

Wait She's deciding the roster? No wonder why Ryu got in! That Sakura Bias!

If I had a dollar for every time I saw a misspelling of Sakurai...

 

[Senselessbreak]

It still really annoys me how people use the term "Ballot Winners", or ask "Who won the ballot?'

It's such a stupid phrase, and it's so childish.

This is a suggestion box people.

They're not gonna show you any results. Why? Because then you'll just complain that #2 wasn't put in the game, and that #1 and #3 were. Then you'll complain that that is stupid. Then the fanbase will hate each other even more. Then Sakurai will get even more hate.

The guy isn't the brightest when it comes to some basic decisions. But the man damn sure knows how to handle a couple million whiners.

Chances are the #1 most suggested character won't be put in the game at all. Sakura may not like him. But #4 gives Sakurai a great vision so he works on putting them in the game.

Releasing any form of data would be the dumbest thing Sakurai has ever done. And you people know how many of his decisions I think were absolute crap. But that would top the list.

It just blows my mind how news sources like GX are still waiting for results and winners.

At the same time it blows my mind that people think that this still isn't a popularity contest. "Oh its just a suggestion box, anyone can get in!!!!"

I highly doubt the winner will be picked from some random suggestion. Its labeled as a ballot, and thus will be used to measure popularity. Sakurai probably won't release the information right away, but he probably will down the road. Look at the melee poll, the top choices (Bowser, Peach, etc) got in. Apparently we still never saw the Brawl poll, but from what I understand, Sonic was #1 on there, and got added. I don't think we are going to get a #4 as a winner, or a #16, since it "caught sakurai's eye."

We are going to get a #1 and then maybe someone maybe someone from the top 5, depending on how many characters are poll winners. Based on the melee poll, we saw a handful of the top winners get added later on, so its very obvious this data will be used for Smash 5. Lets take a look at the top 10:

(1) Koopa [Super Mario series]: (Bowser)
(2) Princess Peach [Super Mario series]:
(3) Wario [Super Mario series]:
(4) Great King Dedede [Kirby of the Stars series]:
(5) Ganon(dorf) [Legend of Zelda]:
(6) James Bond [GoldenEye 007]:
(6) Mewtwo [Pocket Monsters]:
(8) Banjo & Kazooie [Banjo & Kazooie's Big Adventure]: ([Banjo-Kazooie])
(9) Kinopio [Super Mario series]: (Toad)
(10) Mew [Pocket Monsters]:

To this date, we HAVE everyone in the top 5, and 6 out of the 10. Toad is still a realistic possibility down the road and two of these characters are third party and issues to license there, although they were considered before "adult issues" came into play. Mew seems to be the only one who got the short end of the stick in this poll.

I'm getting real sick of people constantly thinking this is just a glorified suggestion box meant only for Sakurai's pleasure.

 

[Z25]

Wait... Why is the Splatoon tournament a Wednesday? A weekend will make much more sense and yield better results...

There was a problem fetching the tweet

 

[The Slayer]

Z25 Thanksgiving and Black Friday will probably make the inklings derpy on the weekend.

 

[N3ON]

We're not going to get #1 if it's someone like Goku or Shrek.

Coincidentally if #1 is like Shrek or Spongebob or something else retch-worthy then by god I don't think I want to be part of this fanbase anymore, even if this part of it isn't so bad. >_<

 

[Godzillathewonderdog]

They said the broadcast in December will be the last Smash Bros. centric broadcast, but that doesn't mean we won't get future Smash Bros. content revealed in non Smash Bros. centric broadcasts, yet everyone assumes the last bunch of DLC will be revealed in the December broadcast

Spoiler

including me.

 

[The Slayer]

I just think we'll be getting less DLC as the time goes on. But updates and fixes will pop up here and there in case something really broken pops up.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

We get a bunch of people calling the rest of the fanbase dumb but we're a sorry bunch of negative nancies ourselves and we've done idiotic things as well.

Pot, meet kettle.

 

[wedl!!]

Yes, Peach has plenty of fans. Including yours truly.

 

[The Slayer]

Welp, I'm under the bridge when it comes to Peach fans. Some seem fine to me.