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Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

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Oh man, I'm going to be gone at universal studious most of the day, catching up with this thread is going to be something. :p
 
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Speaking of badges, am I the only one who thinks the Badge Arcade Bunny with a summoner moveset utilizing badges would be a great eventual Smash newcomer? :p
Badge Center Bunny is literally perfection
He could have any moveset and I would main the hell out of him
And like Isabelle, he doesn't count towards being a furry :p
 

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So Chugga confirmed that people's "oh noez plot is being changed because censorship" fears were completely unfounded.
Yeah, the censorship complaints are getting overblown.

As a matter of fact, there are still religious references in the localized version. However, some names were changed due to being Engrish-y (such as the BLADE acronym and some of its division names), which did have the side effect of removing religious references.

Of course, rabid fanboys being rabid fanboys, they blew this up out of proportion. The only actual censorship is Lin's fanservice outfits and the boob slider, of which the former I agree with, but the latter I don't.

People should make a better effort at informing themselves rather than trusting what amounts to word of mouth and fact twisting.
 
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Yeah, the censorship complaints are getting overblown.

As a matter of fact, there are still religious references in the localized version. However, some names were changed due to being Engrish-y (such as the BLADE acronym and some of its division names), which did have the side effect of removing religious references.

Of course, rabid fanboys being rabid fanboys, they blew this up out of proportion. The only actual censorship is Lin's fanservice outfits and the boob slider, of which the former I agree with, but the latter I don't.

People should make a better effort at informing themselves rather than trusting what amounts to word of mouth and fact twisting.
Testament was the name of the faction, which didn't even make any sense to begin with. I don't see it as "religious" censorship, I see it more as changing something to make it sound better.

People just need to take a big breath and relax a little bit.
 

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remember those mecha in xenogears that were just, named after the twelve tribes of israel for absolutely no reason
 
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With some people getting up in arms about religious censorship in games, I have to wonder.

Had the Internet been a big thing in the eighties, I think some people would have had a heart attack at how much religious censorship happened at the hands of NoA. :laugh:
 

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Testament was the name of the faction, which didn't even make any sense to begin with. I don't see it as "religious" censorship, I see it more as changing something to make it sound better.

People just need to take a big breath and relax a little bit.
I heard there's a character whose name is an anagram of Lucifer or something like that. (Not sure if spoilers, but if it is, my apologies.)

One of the mechas contains the name Mastema (which is a reference to demonology IIRC).

But again, I do agree with the censoring of Lin. The bikini was too risqué and all they did was to tone it down (and even so, they didn't tone down that much).

The breast slider is political correctness gone wrong and alienates female gamers who wanted to make full use of the avatar creator. Sure, it could be used for pervy purposes by male players, but I'd think a 12+ rated game could get away with that. Boob sizes are as natural as say, the size of your hands, feet, head and so on.

What I really think, however, is that ESRB should have a mid-term rating between T (13+) and M (17+).

CERO (Japan) has B (12+), C (15+) and a 18+ rating while PEGI has 12, 16 and 18 ratings. ESRB's M and AO ratings are almost redundant due to their single-year gap. Seriously, what's the logic behind 17+ and 18+ ratings?

CERO rated Xenoblade X with a C rating and PEGI could easily rate it 16. If Nintendo was aiming for a similar rating, non-existent in ESRB, they probably wouldn't have to tone down some stuff. (Lin would probably be censored, anyway.)
 
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Testament was the name of the faction, which didn't even make any sense to begin with. I don't see it as "religious" censorship, I see it more as changing something to make it sound better.

People just need to take a big breath and relax a little bit.
Pretty much this. Too many people are using the word censorship and "self-censorship" (a dumb word imo) without understanding what true censorship is. It's really annoying...

It's almost as bad as the DOA soft ban earlier this year; some DOA community big names/heads made an optional ban of the fanservice costumes during tournaments so that random bystanders wouldnt see the game as smut and might respect it more; it was funny how almost all the detractors didnt even go to tournaments. Unironically, someone tried to make a point and chose to use the costume anyway at a public tournament only to have a little girl end up asking her mother "why why is she naked" and he ended up embarrassed and apologizing to the mother and child.
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I heard there's a character whose name is an anagram of Lucifer or something like that. (Not sure if spoilers, but if it is, my apologies.)

One of the mechas contains the name Mastema (which is a reference to demonology IIRC).

But again, I do agree with the censoring of Lin. The bikini was too risqué and all they did was to tone it down (and even so, they didn't tone down that much).

The breast slider is political correctness gone wrong and alienates female gamers who wanted to make full use of the avatar creator. Sure, it could be used for pervy purposes by male players, but I'd think a 12+ rated game could get away with that. Boob sizes are as natural as say, the size of your hands, feet, head and so on.

What I really think, however, is that ESRB should have a mid-term rating between T (13+) and M (17+).

CERO (Japan) has B (12+), C (15+) and a 18+ rating while PEGI has 12, 16 and 18 ratings. ESRB's M and AO ratings are almost redundant due to their single-year gap. Seriously, what's the logic behind 17+ and 18+ ratings?

CERO rated Xenoblade X with a C rating and PEGI could easily rate it 16. If Nintendo was aiming for a similar rating, non-existent in ESRB, they probably wouldn't have to tone down some stuff. (Lin would probably be censored, anyway.)
Well 18 is the legal age you can watch porn in the US, so to me I appreciate the little difference. To me it says "This is not on the same level as porn." To me that says a lot, even though the age difference is small.

Concerning the boob slider, I agree that it was probably unnecessary and I wouldnt be surprised if they patched it in, but realistically......they're not alienating that many females. They're alienating a female core gamers, that are interested in a niche game, and give a crap about their characters breast size. That's...probably not a lot of people.

That said, the number of those affected isnt that relevant. It's the reasons that matter imo. I wont pretend to know why Nintendo chose to remove the slider, but I will say that I find the removal of the option to be a strange choice. And I also doubt it was an easy one.
 
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So I was thinking about something- people are saying the Shovel Knight rumor is dead or that Shovel Knight doesn't have as much "oomph" as Cloud and won't get in or something similar. But how do we know he wasn't Ballot material? I assume the Ballot's going to work differently, and as such, i don't think it's far-fetched to see him appear.
 

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So I had the strangest dream last night...

It all started when I was in the car with my father, in my old house, who wanted to take me on an "Adventure", so he took me to all sorts of places, like an amusement park, Blockbuster Video, etc. The Blockbuster actually had Amiibo, and there was a Despicable Me series of Amiibo. And then the car crashes and we get separated, and then I'm Kirby for some reason. After that, Betty White lets Kirby into her house to stay for the night, and tells him that she's trying to find her dvd collection. And then Kirby has a dream within the dream about Robot Chicken, with Kazumi from Dead or Alive being announced for Smash, and then Robot Chicken tells Kirby to look in the bathroom, and to his horror, he finds Betty White's dvd collection, he tries to run away from the house, but Betty White is at the door!
And then I woke up shaking, my dog was right next to me in bed though and gave me a lick, which made me feel the slightest bit better. :c
 

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So I had the strangest dream last night...

It all started when I was in the car with my father, in my old house, who wanted to take me on an "Adventure", so he took me to all sorts of places, like an amusement park, Blockbuster Video, etc. The Blockbuster actually had Amiibo, and there was a Despicable Me series of Amiibo. And then the car crashes and we get separated, and then I'm Kirby for some reason. After that, Betty White lets Kirby into her house to stay for the night, and tells him that she's trying to find her dvd collection. And then Kirby has a dream within the dream about Robot Chicken, with Kazumi from Dead or Alive being announced for Smash, and then Robot Chicken tells Kirby to look in the bathroom, and to his horror, he finds Betty White's dvd collection, he tries to run away from the house, but Betty White is at the door!
And then I woke up shaking, my dog was right next to me in bed though and gave me a lick, which made me feel the slightest bit better. :c
Be like me, don't dream
 

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"Don't let your dreams be dreams"
"I dont have dreams"
****

I also never remember any of my dreams. Which is really annoying when people talk about theirs :upsidedown:
Trust me, you're lucky you don't have to remember things like my dream...
(The Wizard of Oz vs Looney Toons was a thing in my dream by the way...)
 
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But can Captain Toad discover why kids love the Cinnamon taste of Cinnamon toast crunch? And his smash reveal trailer...

And Mario tennis Ultra Smash is not a treasure.
 
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But can Captain Toad discover why kids love the Cinnamon taste of Cinnamon toast crunch? As why as his smash reveal trailer...

And Mario tennis Ultra Smash is not a treasure.
"super street fighter II Turbo revival"
This isn't even the worst name and this is still hilarious how absurd these names get.
I really need to buy treasure trackers.
 

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"super street fighter II Turbo revival"
This isn't even the worst name and this is still hilarious how absurd these names get.
I really need to buy treasure trackers.
Anniversary Edition, how about that? :p
 

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"super street fighter II Turbo revival"
This isn't even the worst name and this is still hilarious how absurd these names get.
I really need to buy treasure trackers.
Treasure tracker is really fun! I'd love to see a sequel for it sometime!
 

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But can Captain Toad discover why kids love the Cinnamon taste of Cinnamon toast crunch? As why as his smash reveal trailer...

And Mario tennis Ultra Smash is not a treasure.
Yeah, I saw Mario Tennis Ultra Smash on there and my immediate thought was "on what planet?".
 

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But can Captain Toad discover why kids love the Cinnamon taste of Cinnamon toast crunch? And his smash reveal trailer...

And Mario tennis Ultra Smash is not a treasure.
Wake me up when the following eShop stuff gets added:

- Super Smash Bros. (64)
- StarTropics
- Zoda's Revenge: StarTropics 2
- Fast Racing Neo
- Pokémon Puzzle League
 

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Has Ultra Smash always had a 61 rating on Metacritic?

lol amiibo Festival with 40 rating
 

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What's so stupid? Can't watch 2 videos at the same time on the Gamepad?
He basically said "why did they give him the Advent Children costume instead of the original costume".

... Despite the fact that both costumes are in the game.
 
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Get ready for the Xenoblade X reviews.
*Yeah I'm aware some of these are legit criticisms but they're just so damn common, also I did not make the bingo card lol
 

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It's not a big deal, all you have to do is tell him that the original costume is in the game, he probably realized later after watching the direct though.
He asked why his design in FF7 wasn't being used while looking at his FF7 design.

He asked why he looks like Advent Children Cloud while looking at his FF7 design.
 
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Get ready for the Xenoblade X reviews.

*Yeah I'm aware some of these are legit criticisms but they're just so damn common, also I did not make the bingo card lol
It's funny because I don't think any of those fit X. :p

Except too linear. :troll:

Anyways, I just found out that Matthew Mercer is the voice of Lao. Sounds good.
 

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Fraser sometimes really doesn't pay close enough attention when doing Show and Trailers, and it unfortunately shows...
Still like their work though.
I usually like their shows a lot, not their Nintendo ones though because Fraser just feels kinda whiny during those imo.
 
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