Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

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Yeah true, the OS just had a magical touch to the series. From the OST to the dynamic the original trio had. Might be my nostalgia from like 1999-2003 coming in to play here but I really loved that portion of the anime because it seemed the plot was actually going somewhere and that everything wasn't done over and over again.

I'm just not interested in the newer series. Honestly their going to keep this story forever so I really don't see any reason to watch it TBH. For me personally I enjoy the PKMN Special Manga due to it not having the same main characters all the time and that the focus of each arc is different and a lot more captivating. The manga strikes a balance with being more grittier than the Games and the Anime while also staying true to the light-hearted nature of PKMN. It was also Satoshi Tajiri's vision of what Pokemon was supposed to be or at least very close to it with his comments on the series. IMO everyone should give the series a look.

I mostly just keep an eye on the anime because I check Serebii most every day. The older I get the more flaws I see in the writing, which is probably my biggest issue more so than the actual content as I think there's a lot more potential. There's honestly more things that get on my nerves than even the recent FE games, as at least then I can tell what they were thinking. I stopped openly watching it after the VA change/Movie 8, though I did stick around for some of the Battle Frontier. DP kind of killed my interest after that.

The manga is still the best media adaptation, but it does have some shortcomings as the Pokemon/Battles don't feel as alive and it takes FOREVER for a chapter to release let alone a volume (it's been 2 years since the last one, 52 with B2W2, and XY & ORAS is almost done).


Speaking of Pokemon though, Ken Sugimori seems to be a Gravity Falls fan:

Spoiler

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[A Distant Demon]

So here's an adorable video

A baby makes the most important decision in her life: Her first Pokémon

And one of my favorite comments in the video's comment section:

That's not Bulbasur. . .it's never Bulbasaur


Why is it that Squall, a character so negative that it almost seems like he was written to be hated, is more appealing to me than 90% of main characters in video games i've seen in recent years?

 

[ChikoLad]

Are we seriously ******* on Mat Pat? That’s pretty dumb. You can dislike his theories, but the reasons stated here are really stupid (no offense). He’s channel’s fun, and like many other things, it has a bad fanbase, you shouldn’t **** on the creator for that. He can’t stop people from being annoying. And honestly if his theories and fanbase talking about them all the time bother you, then you must live one hell of a relaxed life! There are way more important things to obsess about, just let it go, if it bothers you ignore it, simple as that!

I wasn't crapping on him, I had some legitimate criticisms. I mainly just wanted to highlight his new amiibo one, which I thought was a problem as it perpetuates some bad misconceptions that go beyond not doing research on video games. Like how it bills itself as an economics lesson...yet still has a lot fundamentally wrong with it from that perspective. Or perpetuating the idea that "Europe has it better than NA", which is a legitimate problem and cause for near-racism in the Nintendo community these days.

As for his channel being fun, that's COMPLETELY subjective, not objective. And it's not a reason to hold back criticism either, even if you do find it fun. In my case, I really don't see the fun in his channel anymore. However, that was never the problem I had with his channel and it's not the main criticism I had. Whether or not his channel is fun is irrelevant.

And it's not just a matter of having a bad fanbase, his fanbase is as bad as it is BECAUSE of how he acts and perpetuates his theories as fact.

Also to be frank, I don't see where anybody in this thread gets off on telling anybody to "obsess" over "more important things". Considering this is the group that associates itself with obsessively nitpicking obviously fake Nintendo leaks. I'm gonna be blunt and say, from an objective standpoint, me trying to clear up misinformation on something, even if it's just Rosalina or Zelda stuff or whatever, is more important than the obsessing you do over obviously fake Nintendo or Pokémon leaks. At least my attempts to clear up misinformation achieve something. Make some kind of a difference. If I didn't do it, then the subject's image is effected in a poor way more than if I did do something. As an example, Wikipedia listed Rosalina's creator as Shigeru Miyamoto for the past 8 years, when it is in fact Yoshiaki Koizumi. Not only is that obvious misinformation that got perpetuated across the gaming community, but it was very bittersweet because Shigeru Miyamoto actually tried to STOP Rosalina from becoming a thing at all, and Yoshiaki Koizumi had to fight pretty hard to even make sure the character came into fruition. However, the Wikipedia article finally changed her creator to Yoshiaki Koizumi after all these years. While it wasn't me who made the change, I do believe I played a part, as that's probably the biggest piece of misinformation I had been trying to fix for the past couple of years in my spare time, by spreading the word (with sources) on forums, Tumblr, YouTube, etc. So I think it's fairly likely someone saw my posts with the sources and decided to edit the article accordingly.

Dunno about you, but I think there is more tangible importance in making sure a man gets his due credit for his work, or an iconic character gets recognised by it's proper identity and merits rather than being constantly mistaken for something it isn't, than in "HEY GAIZ LOOK AT DIS POKEMAN LEEK DATZ OBVIOUSLY FAEK, ISN'T IT SO FUNNY?????". Even if only by a little bit.

Not trying to tell you to stop doing whatever you do or that you are stupid for spending your free time in that way, as I don't have a problem with how you spend your time, but it was you who brought up "obsess over something more important" as if to say there was a problem with how myself and others spent their time, not me. I'm playing by your rules and applying those rules to a more objective interpretation. And with that, what you said was extremely hypocritical.

Also I'm not gonna divulge exactly how relaxed my life is (right now, I wouldn't say it is that relaxed though), but I don't see why having a relaxed life is reason for scrutiny, either. In a lot of cases, that's something people earn through hard work, blood, sweat, and tears.

 

[Coricus]

We've hated on nicer things for less.

Even some of the defenders.

That's true. Various things are blowtorched here all the time, sometimes even to an irrational and childish degree. Why is THIS the one collecting defense?

There's been some complaints from some people lately about how they "aren't allowed to be critical," but usually even those situations are more people trying to debate them over what seem to be inaccurate comments or motivations than actual shutdowns. Meanwhile this of all things has the people making criticisms being simply being shut down with borderline "Don't Like, Don't Read" responses rather than any actual debate.

I guess it's because people figure it's easier to avoid a video than a new Smash character, but it seems rather off that a normally intellectual and debate fueled forum would shut down criticism over this particular show. Shouldn't there be some kind of objective analysis of the other party's points as opposed to instantaneously jumping to it's defense with a couple of blanket defenses?

The sheer willingness to shut down any and all criticism in this situation without first sparring with it in the glory of battle seems a bit off to me, to the point where it's tempting me to make negative comments about something I have never seen and was already specifically following the "Don't Like, Don't Read" advice due to the fact that the inaccurate content that people say they perpetuate seems like it would annoy me.

 

[IceBreakerXY]

So for those who care.I'm a part of this subreddit,who plays this little marvel phone game i've become addicted to recently. And the mod there been going a bit ban happy and deleting posts. As an outsider looking in, is he in the right or wrong https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelAvengersAcademy/comments/4f9l2t/final_post_regarding_drama_here/
Edit:i should put that multiple people who work on the game visit the subreddit and help people there and communicate with us.And when he says 7-10 vocal minority.its much more than 7-10.

 

[ChikoLad]

So for those who care.I'm a part of this subreddit,who plays this little marvel phone game i've become addicted to recently. And the mod there been going a bit ban happy and deleting posts. As an outsider looking in, is he in the right or wrong https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelAvengersAcademy/comments/4f9l2t/final_post_regarding_drama_here/

I think he's mostly in the wrong.

If he was getting harassed in PM, yeah, that's not fair on him.

But he does come off as some kind of dictator. Seems less like that subreddit would be a melting pot for discussion under him, and more like it would be tailoured to his specific desires. Which is defeating the purpose of a subreddit.

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

FML, playing Lost Reavers and level 2 on research facility is so frustrating on solo.

The second last room where you have to fix the valves is where I died three times because the zombie things would not stop spawning, and so I got cornered twice with zombies surrounding me with no way of getting out since you can't just push them out of the way when you run

 

[ChikoLad]

FML, playing Lost Reavers and level 2 on research facility is so frustrating on solo.

The second last room where you have to fix the valves is where I died three times because the zombie things would not stop spawning, and so I got cornered twice with zombies surrounding me with no way of getting out since you can't just push them out of the way when you run

If you want a partner to team up with in the game, I wouldn't mind helping out. My main, Victoria, is on Level 18, and I've cleared that area's variations a bunch of times already, trying to get a full relic set.

I can't do it right this second but maybe sometime during the week.

 

[Coricus]

So for those who care.I'm a part of this subreddit,who plays this little marvel phone game i've become addicted to recently. And the mod there been going a bit ban happy and deleting posts. As an outsider looking in, is he in the right or wrong https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelAvengersAcademy/comments/4f9l2t/final_post_regarding_drama_here/
Edit:i should put that multiple people who work on the game visit the subreddit and help people there and communicate with us.And when he says 7-10 vocal minority.its much more than 7-10.

Someone sounds very subjectively upset in his tone of writing. Perhaps even salty.

I'm very strongly tempted to say he was in the wrong off of his tone alone, although the magnitude of his actions certainly don't improve my opinion of him any.

 

[Burruni]

That's not Bulbasur. . .it's never Bulbasaur


Why is it that Squall, a character so negative that it almost seems like he was written to be hated, is more appealing to me than 90% of main characters in video games i've seen in recent years?

Because Squall and FF8 are severely underloved.

 

[Ura]

So here's an adorable video

A baby makes the most important decision in her life: Her first Pokémon

And one of my favorite comments in the video's comment section:

This kid gets it

#SquirtleMasterRace

I mostly just keep an eye on the anime because I check Serebii most every day. The older I get the more flaws I see in the writing, which is probably my biggest issue more so than the actual content as I think there's a lot more potential. There's honestly more things that get on my nerves than even the recent FE games, as at least then I can tell what they were thinking. I stopped openly watching it after the VA change/Movie 8, though I did stick around for some of the Battle Frontier. DP kind of killed my interest after that.

The manga is still the best media adaptation, but it does have some shortcomings as the Pokemon/Battles don't feel as alive and it takes FOREVER for a chapter to release let alone a volume (it's been 2 years since the last one, 52 with B2W2, and XY & ORAS is almost done).

Yeah, the VA change was pretty horrid even looking back a decade later. Removing almost everyone from the main cast was pretty egregious for people who grew up with those voices. 4Kids does a lot of stupid crap but I feel that PKMN was one of the things they did right IMO.

The battles are alright but being in Manga format it's hard for the battles to be as good as the one in the Anime given that there all still images. What I like most about the series is the characterization and how each character works towards a goal in every chapter. It doesn't feel force fed like the Anime and each Arc has it's different objective for the main characters.

Also, the E4 in the Manga is frigging amazing. Lance's Dragonite destroying Vermillion City so causally was one of my favorite scenes in the entire series.

Because Squall and FF8 are severely underloved.

Same with Tidus IMO. People seem to hate him because "lol he cries a lot" and whatever when they don't see the selfless traits of the character and how he has to accept that he's just a dream in the game.

 

[ChikoLad]

I tried re-arranging the Hyrule Warriors Legends CSS to look a little more organised for my tastes.

Original:

My edit:

It's not perfect because the whole CSS is a bit weird but it will do.

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

If you want a partner to team up with in the game, I wouldn't mind helping out. My main, Victoria, is on Level 18, and I've cleared that area's variations a bunch of times already, trying to get a full relic set.

I can't do it right this second but maybe sometime during the week.

Yeah, I'd be up for that.

Also, I finished Research Lab level 2, and just started the basement stage.

I died on that one, but I feel alot better about that one since I actually managed to get decently far into the level on my first go... I think

 

[Deleted member]

Speaking of Pokemon though, Ken Sugimori seems to be a Gravity Falls fan:

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Alex actually met Ken Sugimori back when he travaled to Japan.

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[ChikoLad]

Yeah, I'd be up for that.

Also, I finished Research Lab level 2, and just started the basement stage.

I died on that one, but I feel alot better about that one since I actually managed to get decently far into the level on my first go... I think

Word of advice - if you run into a red waypoint with a skull on it in that stage, don't go towards it.

Those are giant boss fights and are optional.

Especially if you're playing solo, going for them is suicide unless you are like, fully maxed out, and nobody is at that point yet. These bosses are literally Monster Hunter tier difficult. It will take a full party of people around Level 20 about 40 minutes to take one down.

You really need to go into them with a plan and with a group of people you've practiced playing the game with. You also want the connection to be good.

So yeah, don't waste your resources trying to fight them until you are fully prepped and have a party you are familiar with and can work with.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

After a full days work, I just ran for 45 minutes

That run should cover the 2 nutty bars I ate today at least...

 

[Z25]

I wasn't crapping on him, I had some legitimate criticisms. I mainly just wanted to highlight his new amiibo one, which I thought was a problem as it perpetuates some bad misconceptions that go beyond not doing research on video games. Like how it bills itself as an economics lesson...yet still has a lot fundamentally wrong with it from that perspective. Or perpetuating the idea that "Europe has it better than NA", which is a legitimate problem and cause for near-racism in the Nintendo community these days.

As for his channel being fun, that's COMPLETELY subjective, not objective. And it's not a reason to hold back criticism either, even if you do find it fun. In my case, I really don't see the fun in his channel anymore. However, that was never the problem I had with his channel and it's not the main criticism I had. Whether or not his channel is fun is irrelevant.

And it's not just a matter of having a bad fanbase, his fanbase is as bad as it is BECAUSE of how he acts and perpetuates his theories as fact.

Also to be frank, I don't see where anybody in this thread gets off on telling anybody to "obsess" over "more important things". Considering this is the group that associates itself with obsessively nitpicking obviously fake Nintendo leaks. I'm gonna be blunt and say, from an objective standpoint, me trying to clear up misinformation on something, even if it's just Rosalina or Zelda stuff or whatever, is more important than the obsessing you do over obviously fake Nintendo or Pokémon leaks. At least my attempts to clear up misinformation achieve something. Make some kind of a difference. If I didn't do it, then the subject's image is effected in a poor way more than if I did do something. As an example, Wikipedia listed Rosalina's creator as Shigeru Miyamoto for the past 8 years, when it is in fact Yoshiaki Koizumi. Not only is that obvious misinformation that got perpetuated across the gaming community, but it was very bittersweet because Shigeru Miyamoto actually tried to STOP Rosalina from becoming a thing at all, and Yoshiaki Koizumi had to fight pretty hard to even make sure the character came into fruition. However, the Wikipedia article finally changed her creator to Yoshiaki Koizumi after all these years. While it wasn't me who made the change, I do believe I played a part, as that's probably the biggest piece of misinformation I had been trying to fix for the past couple of years in my spare time, by spreading the word (with sources) on forums, Tumblr, YouTube, etc. So I think it's fairly likely someone saw my posts with the sources and decided to edit the article accordingly.

Dunno about you, but I think there is more tangible importance in making sure a man gets his due credit for his work, or an iconic character gets recognised by it's proper identity and merits rather than being constantly mistaken for something it isn't, than in "HEY GAIZ LOOK AT DIS POKEMAN LEEK DATZ OBVIOUSLY FAEK, ISN'T IT SO FUNNY?????". Even if only by a little bit.

Not trying to tell you to stop doing whatever you do or that you are stupid for spending your free time in that way, as I don't have a problem with how you spend your time, but it was you who brought up "obsess over something more important" as if to say there was a problem with how myself and others spent their time, not me. I'm playing by your rules and applying those rules to a more objective interpretation. And with that, what you said was extremely hypocritical.

Also I'm not gonna divulge exactly how relaxed my life is (right now, I wouldn't say it is that relaxed though), but I don't see why having a relaxed life is reason for scrutiny, either. In a lot of cases, that's something people earn through hard work, blood, sweat, and tears.

I understand you to a degree, but I have to admit( and I mean no offense in this), I really don't understand some of the posts you make....


Yes, the information gets mispread, but it's really not Mat Pat's fault. I haven't even watched the channel in the longest time, but, he's not the main problem. if your going to say his channel being fun is subjective, then you need to realize so is saying it's his fault.

He presents his stuff "as real",, but not legit. He makes his channel as a series. People need to understand that. It's not official, he doesn't really outright try to pass it off as that either, his words or pharses get taken the wrong way to often.


Now moving on, why would you criticize a thread you frequent like this? This is what mainly don't get. Most of the people in this thread do not obsess over leaks, yeah they get posted, but now a days, a page or two covers them. We don't obsess over them, just one comment and that's about it. It was the same with same ones, except the legit ones. But again those days are gone. That was the thread's purpose and you hang out here a lot, so why mock it up? I just don't understand using that as a counter.

Your Rosalina point is fair, but again this goes back to my second paragraph. Mat is proud of his work and spreads it a lot, but it's more his fan base taking it and running with it. He can't stop them, so it's not 100% his fault. If your famous, your words are getting used by everyone, just how that works.

And my point of obbess wasn't saying it's pointless, just that it's better to focus on something else. Trying to Change the way people react to Mat Pat, is something that you would never be able to do, or any youtuber for that matter. Just saying that is something I wouldn't recommend focusing on, but I guess if you want to, then go ahead. And me bringing up a relaxed life really wasn't scrutiny. If your main goal is at a moment is that, then I don't see how you are busy. Not being mean, but it goes back to me saying, I wouldn't recommend it, but I guess I can't change that.

 

[N3ON]

Why this whole thing has to be more complicated then "If you don't enjoy the videos, don't watch the videos, and if you see someone who has been misinformed, correct them" I don't know.

It's not worth anything more than that. It really isn't.

 

[ChikoLad]

I understand you to a degree, but I have to admit( and I mean no offense in this), I really don't understand some of the posts you make....


Yes, the information gets mispread, but it's really not Mat Pat's fault. I haven't even watched the channel in the longest time, but, he's not the main problem. if your going to say his channel being fun is subjective, then you need to realize so is saying it's his fault.

He presents his stuff "as real",, but not legit. He makes his channel as a series. People need to understand that. It's not official, he doesn't really outright try to pass it off as that either, his words or pharses get taken the wrong way to often.


Now moving on, why would you criticize a thread you frequent like this? This is what mainly don't get. Most of the people in this thread do not obsess over leaks, yeah they get posted, but now a days, a page or two covers them. We don't obsess over them, just one comment and that's about it. It was the same with same ones, except the legit ones. But again those days are gone. That was the thread's purpose and you hang out here a lot, so why mock it up? I just don't understand using that as a counter.

Your Rosalina point is fair, but again this goes back to my second paragraph. Mat is proud of his work and spreads it a lot, but it's more his fan base taking it and running with it. He can't stop them, so it's not 100% his fault. If your famous, your words are getting used by everyone, just how that works.

And my point of obbess wasn't saying it's pointless, just that it's better to focus on something else. Trying to Change the way people react to Mat Pat, is something that you would never be able to do, or any youtuber for that matter. Just saying that is something I wouldn't recommend focusing on, but I guess if you want to, then go ahead. And me bringing up a relaxed life really wasn't scrutiny. If your main goal is at a moment is that, then I don't see how you are busy. Not being mean, but it goes back to me saying, I wouldn't recommend it, but I guess I can't change that.

Well firstly, you cannot really make a reasonable argument on the current state of something you haven't tuned into for the longest time.

Your comment about "he presents his stuff as real, not legit" is a paradox, as those are one in the same. MatPat believes sincerely that his theories are based on facts and that they are the objective truth. If you are trying to say this is an act for the show, it isn't, because he talks about them on social media and what not too. And of course, there is the situation with Scott Cawthon.

Also I wasn't mocking the thread, but like I said, I don't see where you get off telling people to "obsess" over "something more important", when what I am "obsessing" over has at least a little more tangible importance than what you are obsessing over. For the record, I have made a difference by convincing people why MatPat's theories, specifically the Rosalina one, are faulty. And word spreads. So it's not like it's a fruitless labour. It's also far from obsession, just something I do the odd time - and mostly when it's shoved in my face.

I don't have a problem with you "obsessing" over leaks (while I don't think that's the right word, you can't deny that you have a habit of bringing up random leaks with consistency and trying to get people to comment on them regardless of how valid they are), but please don't try to put other people's interests down on the basis of importance, when your interests can't all be argued as being better.

Also at what point did I say debunking MatPat's theories was my "main goal in life"?

I mean you do realise it's Sunday, right? People tend to take it a bit easier and have time for more stuff on a Sunday. I was also multi-tasking with Hyrule Warriors and some other things earlier on when this discussion was more prominent. I don't know where you got this idea that it's my main goal in life from, honestly...

Anyway I kinda just want to drop this. TL;DR MatPat is a goon but if you like him that's fine. Just acknowledge that a lot of what he says has little validity to it and don't quote him as a source.

 

[Champ Gold]

Why this whole thing has to be more complicated then "If you don't enjoy the videos, don't watch the videos, and if you see someone who has been misinformed, correct them" I don't know.

It's not worth anything more than that. It really isn't.

There a reason but to avoid drama, I rather not say it but let's just say obsession is a bad drug

 

[Coricus]

I understand you to a degree, but I have to admit( and I mean no offense in this), I really don't understand some of the posts you make....


Yes, the information gets mispread, but it's really not Mat Pat's fault. I haven't even watched the channel in the longest time, but, he's not the main problem. if your going to say his channel being fun is subjective, then you need to realize so is saying it's his fault.

He presents his stuff "as real",, but not legit. He makes his channel as a series. People need to understand that. It's not official, he doesn't really outright try to pass it off as that either, his words or pharses get taken the wrong way to often.


Now moving on, why would you criticize a thread you frequent like this? This is what mainly don't get. Most of the people in this thread do not obsess over leaks, yeah they get posted, but now a days, a page or two covers them. We don't obsess over them, just one comment and that's about it. It was the same with same ones, except the legit ones. But again those days are gone. That was the thread's purpose and you hang out here a lot, so why mock it up? I just don't understand using that as a counter.

Your Rosalina point is fair, but again this goes back to my second paragraph. Mat is proud of his work and spreads it a lot, but it's more his fan base taking it and running with it. He can't stop them, so it's not 100% his fault. If your famous, your words are getting used by everyone, just how that works.

And my point of obbess wasn't saying it's pointless, just that it's better to focus on something else. Trying to Change the way people react to Mat Pat, is something that you would never be able to do, or any youtuber for that matter. Just saying that is something I wouldn't recommend focusing on, but I guess if you want to, then go ahead. And me bringing up a relaxed life really wasn't scrutiny. If your main goal is at a moment is that, then I don't see how you are busy. Not being mean, but it goes back to me saying, I wouldn't recommend it, but I guess I can't change that.

He was saying there was a double standard, that he at least interpreted what you said as your saying that what he was saying was pointless when a huge chunk if not all of the discussion here could be defined as such.

And it's not really the only double standard one could get off of the way the subject has been handled, either, as in the face of the sheer number of things that have been criticized or at least given appropriate discussion here the number and speed to which people rushed to the defense of MatPat over his criticisms when other individuals and subjects don't get nearly that courtesy seems a bit off.

I'm not going to say you can't ask people to stop complaining so much, as there are DEFINITELY some situations that call for it, most notably the time the entire thread went into an angry uproar over a leak that ended up turning out to be fake. But it's because those situations are NOT dealt with AT ALL that makes shutting down criticism of this situation seem more than a touch hypocritical to me.

Even if not everything they're saying is accurate, it's still their call whether or not they want to criticize whatever specific inaccuracies they find and since no one seems to mind when *insert thing here* gets far more strongly criticized it seems like it shouldn't be seen as a thing that should be purged for them to voice their opinion.

At the very least there should be little more thought put into the counterarguments as to why they shouldn't be allowed to voice what they have to say than "Don't Like, Don't Read, It's Just A Show Anyway!" when that completely contradicts a HUGE number of precedents set in this thread. If that argument actually held any weight, we wouldn't be debating constantly here and we'd be focusing on determining the path to world peace instead of bickering about how *X* character is evil because it's not *Y* character or some other similarly subjective situation on par with going to war over whether Chocolate or Vanilla is the better flavor of ice cream or whether you should crack an egg by the pointy end or the flat end. We would all just not talk about those things because since we don't like them we don't address them and they're all just fictional anyway.

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

Word of advice - if you run into a red waypoint with a skull on it in that stage, don't go towards it.

Those are giant boss fights and are optional.

Especially if you're playing solo, going for them is suicide unless you are like, fully maxed out, and nobody is at that point yet. These bosses are literally Monster Hunter tier difficult. It will take a full party of people around Level 20 about 40 minutes to take one down.

You really need to go into them with a plan and with a group of people you've practiced playing the game with. You also want the connection to be good.

So yeah, don't waste your resources trying to fight them until you are fully prepped and have a party you are familiar with and can work with.

Yeah I kind figured since no one else went for them when I played with them

Also in my previous post, the place I died at was the mini-boss (I guess you could call it) behind the door with the yellow symbol.

It was the undead chef or something. He's easy with 4 people, but solo is a pain since a ton of enemies spawn in as well as the chef, both in the same and the previous room behind you >_>



On another note, if anyone and I mean anyone gets in a game with a dude called 'Logyon' don't play with him.

The dude stalled the game for a good 30 mins by not bringing the relic to the green waypoint and having the relic sitting in said green way point so whenever I went to get it, it would end up sending me and him to the next/previous room.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I'm going to start a new trend

"Food couples privilege"

I've noticed all recipes online are for "2 servings"

Well, I'm a single person cooking for myself, so when I make "2 servings" I'm just making myself fat

 

[Coricus]

I'm going to start a new trend

"Food couples privilege"

I've noticed all recipes online are for "2 servings"

Well, I'm a single person cooking for myself, so when I make "2 servings" I'm just making myself fat

Well, it might not JUST be "couples privilege."

It could also be a conspiracy by the refrigerator and tupperware companies.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Well, it might not JUST be "couples privilege."

It could also be a conspiracy by the refrigerator and tupperware companies.

I think your on to something

It's the tupper couple food privilege conspiracy

#Tuppercouplefoodprivilegeconspiracy

latest trend on Twitter

 

[Deleted member]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn5NEthURVU
OH MY GOODNESS WUT

Christopher Walken is in this? Why didn't anyone tell me?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiDTorb__FI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15rUJuKCM90
Oh my goodness, this is glorious. 11/10.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn5NEthURVU
OH MY GOODNESS WUT

Christopher Walken is in this? Why didn't anyone tell me?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiDTorb__FI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15rUJuKCM90
Oh my goodness, this is glorious. 11/10.

Has anyone seen the movie yet?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

What, LOL? That's the oddest casting choice ever

 

[Deleted member]

Has anyone seen the movie yet?

Nah, but I really want to.

But if you are wondering how it's doing in critical reception, 95% on RT.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_jungle_book_2016/

Though watch, just like any highly acclaimed movie nowadays, like say Mad Max Fury Road, it'll have an anti following in about a week.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Damn I hate being around arguing couples.

Do couple argue all the time?

I'm kind of glad I never really had to experience this personally

 

[Deleted member]

Damn I hate being around arguing couples.

Do couple argue all the time?

I'm kind of glad I never really had to experience this personally

How old are they usually, when you see couples arguing?

I myself haven't argued with my recent girlfriend or boyfriend. Especially since I rather just bash myself into the ground if anything bad happens... But, yeah, everyone has a different experience. But still...

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

How old are they usually, when you see couples arguing?

I myself haven't argued with my recent girlfriend or boyfriend. Especially since I rather just bash myself into the ground if anything bad happens... But, yeah, everyone has a different experience. But still...

Around late 20's early 30's.

I dunno, it's always over really stupid things

 

[Coricus]

Damn I hate being around arguing couples.

Do couple argue all the time?

I'm kind of glad I never really had to experience this personally

On one hand, at least from what I can tell watching from the outside most of them do. And they'll find increasingly trivial things to disagree about if they have no actual problems.

On the other hand, if you're exceptionally lucky and find someone you care about, putting up with those arguments is worth having someone you love around. If it wasn't, people wouldn't be so sickeningly obsessive over the concept of romance.

And on the OTHER other hand, if you can survive this fandom I think you can handle being in darn near any relationship.

 

[FalKoopa]

Damn I hate being around arguing couples.

Do couple argue all the time?

I'm kind of glad I never really had to experience this personally

Well, arguments are probably common, but arguing publicly probably isn't.

Merits of staying single I guess.

 

[N3ON]

I think the trick is learning how to disagree without letting it become a full-blown argument. There's always some give and take. And it'd be naive to say there's never arguments in a long-term relationship, (personally I think those couples who say they never argue are weird) but hopefully those are relatively uncommon, otherwise things may be a bit problematic.

Over time the novelty and infatuation towards the other person will fade, and in the process many couples do descend into needless arguments as the things once endearing become annoying, but the truly solid relationships are one where something sturdy was built in that firey, passionate, largely-free-from-arguments phase, a deeper understanding and connection that can weather a few shaky instances that might come along here and there. Hopefully what lasts is the knowledge of how the other person works, for better or for worse, and the care to work together with that person for the sake of unity. Sometimes people lose sight of the fact that a couple is effectively a two-person team.

However it may also be a case of unhappiness, stress or other problems outside of the relationship bleeding into the relationship itself, in which case that's not always a "couple" problem rather than an individual's problem.

To answer your question though, yes, couples argue. Maybe not every single couple, but most. Some much more than others. However when you stop learning from the arguments and friction begins to eclipse the rest of the relationship is when it becomes troubling. Otherwise an argument here and there is almost healthy; some form of communication is better than keeping things bottled up. That only leads to resentment, ill will, and ironically, unnecessary arguments.

Though no one likes being around an arguing couple, I totally feel you. It's super awkward and tense.

Heh that's more than I thought I would write. ^_^;

 

[Opossum]

Has anyone seen the movie yet?

I haven't but I've heard great things. It's apparently really good. Ben Kingsley, Idris Elba, Scarlet Johansson, Christopher Walken, Bill Murray, Lupito Nyong'O...



One thing I thought was neat was changing King Louie from an orangutan to a gigantopithecus, since, while extinct, those actually lived in India.

 

[FalKoopa]

As far as I know, King Louie wasn't in the original Jungle Book - the monkey troupe didn't have a leader there.

The Hindi dub has a song exclusive to it, even. All the more reason to watch it twice.

 

[Z25]

Well firstly, you cannot really make a reasonable argument on the current state of something you haven't tuned into for the longest time.

Your comment about "he presents his stuff as real, not legit" is a paradox, as those are one in the same. MatPat believes sincerely that his theories are based on facts and that they are the objective truth. If you are trying to say this is an act for the show, it isn't, because he talks about them on social media and what not too. And of course, there is the situation with Scott Cawthon.

Also I wasn't mocking the thread, but like I said, I don't see where you get off telling people to "obsess" over "something more important", when what I am "obsessing" over has at least a little more tangible importance than what you are obsessing over. For the record, I have made a difference by convincing people why MatPat's theories, specifically the Rosalina one, are faulty. And word spreads. So it's not like it's a fruitless labour. It's also far from obsession, just something I do the odd time - and mostly when it's shoved in my face.

I don't have a problem with you "obsessing" over leaks (while I don't think that's the right word, you can't deny that you have a habit of bringing up random leaks with consistency and trying to get people to comment on them regardless of how valid they are), but please don't try to put other people's interests down on the basis of importance, when your interests can't all be argued as being better.

Also at what point did I say debunking MatPat's theories was my "main goal in life"?

I mean you do realise it's Sunday, right? People tend to take it a bit easier and have time for more stuff on a Sunday. I was also multi-tasking with Hyrule Warriors and some other things earlier on when this discussion was more prominent. I don't know where you got this idea that it's my main goal in life from, honestly...

Anyway I kinda just want to drop this. TL;DR MatPat is a goon but if you like him that's fine. Just acknowledge that a lot of what he says has little validity to it and don't quote him as a source.

While I said, I haven't specifically watched it, I know quite a bit of what he has talked about, because Game Theory is just a channel you see brought up a lot. Especially when we have had them here talked about here. I don't follow his social media, but I know how he will usually present things in the actual videos.

As for him being serious, well I think that's actual 50/50. I could see him definitely believing in his theories, but I think it's a bit of him proud of his work, and the rest is an attempt to keep his show's image. Seeing how he acts in
streams, and outside of his videos, MatPat reminds me a bit of Etika. He knows his fanbase enjoys his personality and the way he acts, so he forms each GT around. He isn't as bad as Etika and his reaction videos though. Which aren't necessary bad, just way to overacting, but it's what sells his channel, so he goes through with it.

I agree with obsessing being a incorrect term though. And again, I addressing the whole obsessing thing with my last post. And with the leaks, again, we have sort of dropped that. the main reason NX one's are brought up are because it has so little info, and the Nintendo fanbase enjoys speculating on them. We don't really go overboard here with them, but we acknowledge them. And then for the occasion( and I haven't done this in awhile), when I bring up pokemon leaks here, it's more for fun, and to showcase an interesting idea. But those aren't even fully discussed usually.
and Yes Sunday is know to be a day of rest( although that has sort of changed with the times, not that it really affects this statement though.), but I wouldn't say day of the week, is much of a big factor, but I don't constantly know what people do each day either. I also never meant for the main goal in life to be taken the way it was. I simply meant your main focus right now.

But anyway as you said, it's best to drop it.

He was saying there was a double standard, that he at least interpreted what you said as your saying that what he was saying was pointless when a huge chunk if not all of the discussion here could be defined as such.

And it's not really the only double standard one could get off of the way the subject has been handled, either, as in the face of the sheer number of things that have been criticized or at least given appropriate discussion here the number and speed to which people rushed to the defense of MatPat over his criticisms when other individuals and subjects don't get nearly that courtesy seems a bit off.

I'm not going to say you can't ask people to stop complaining so much, as there are DEFINITELY some situations that call for it, most notably the time the entire thread went into an angry uproar over a leak that ended up turning out to be fake. But it's because those situations are NOT dealt with AT ALL that makes shutting down criticism of this situation seem more than a touch hypocritical to me.

Even if not everything they're saying is accurate, it's still their call whether or not they want to criticize whatever specific inaccuracies they find and since no one seems to mind when *insert thing here* gets far more strongly criticized it seems like it shouldn't be seen as a thing that should be purged for them to voice their opinion.

At the very least there should be little more thought put into the counterarguments as to why they shouldn't be allowed to voice what they have to say than "Don't Like, Don't Read, It's Just A Show Anyway!" when that completely contradicts a HUGE number of precedents set in this thread. If that argument actually held any weight, we wouldn't be debating constantly here and we'd be focusing on determining the path to world peace instead of bickering about how *X* character is evil because it's not *Y* character or some other similarly subjective situation on par with going to war over whether Chocolate or Vanilla is the better flavor of ice cream or whether you should crack an egg by the pointy end or the flat end. We would all just not talk about those things because since we don't like them we don't address them and they're all just fictional anyway.

Fair enough, but I figured, I'd address his other points, and as requested, drop the conversation.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Well, I'm not completely sure how the couple's argument ended but one of them just drove off

--

More interestingly, I just found out that Baloo was intended as a "Sloth Bear". They have found examples of Bengal Tigers hunting down and killing Sloth bears for sport, so Baloo standing up against Shere Khan has a little more meaning. "Sloth Bear fur is often found in Bengal Tiger scat"

Edit: LOL, sloth bear fear

I meant fur

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I'm excited for the new Jungle Book. Is Kaa actually a good girl like the book?



Also, here's an interesting question. How do you feel about birthing videos? Does it gross you out, or do you just appreciate how life works?