Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

[BluePikmin11]

Hmmm.... Would you recommend I just wait for the full game then? :/

I mean, if you really want to sample how the battle system works, then you're welcome to do so.
It's an ok demo, but they toss the battle system immediately with a rushed explanation on how it works.
So you kinda have to get in the zone.

 

[Jdaster64]

Thoughts:
- Mario Maker update looks AMAZING. So much level potential; forced bosses, coin puzzles, etc.
- SNES on 3DS VC is cool; makes me wish I had a N3DSXL instead of a 2DS. I already have most of those on Wii U, at least. Maybe that annoying subset of EarthBound fanatics that hated the idea of getting the Wii U to play it will shut up now (doubtful). When's EB Beginnings on 3DS now, Nintendo?
- Well, color me splashed; PM is getting a Wii U game. I'll suspend full judgment until I learn more about the mechanics, but it's apparent that pre-SS Paper Mario is super dead now. Sigh...
- RHYTHM HEAVEN ISN'T DEAD GUYS
- Kirby game, totally called it. Looks pretty awesome, too; the level themes look more inspired than Triple Deluxe's, and tricking out robots > Super Abilities >>> Hypernova. Hopefully the Smash ability isn't also amiibo-exclusive, though; that's my favorite power in the series (possibly short of UFO and Hi-Jump).

 

[N3ON]

The hate for Federation Force and Color Splash is infuriating.

Like, Federation Force looks far better than it originally did.

But people just blindly hate.

Does it?

It looks the same to me, we just know more about it. Having pseudo-classes and whatnot is cool, learning more about the plot is fine, but neither of those changes the parts of the game most people found fault in, namely a Metroid game that doesn't look like, play like, or include the protagonist of Metroid in any major role.

Obviously the game was going to have more depth to it than could be perceived in the like two-minute reveal trailer, but what exactly did we learn this time around that addresses the previous, potentially valid, gripes people had? I'm not saying people should blindly hate on the game, I just question what got revealed this time that should warrant a change of opinion.

 

[epicmartin7]

I honestly thought the direct was alright. It did what it needed to do.

Although, the tone of the direct was kind of weird. Weird how you may ask?

Well, one of the first things Bill said was "You may think you know our entire game lineup, but we still have a couple of surprises in store for our existing titles." or something along those lines. This seems odd considering the leaks that have been happening recently. Maybe it's some sort of message basically saying their listening lol.

Other than that, I did enjoy some of the reveals and am especially looking forward to the next Kirby game.

Also, this is the first time a direct has been leaked in some form at all. It had to happen at some point I guess.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I'll post my full thoughts on the direct later.

 

[Deleted member]

Also, Bravely Second
I didn't play the first but I might consider buying it, but there's a demo so that's cool
I remember never finishing the first one's demo lol

Hopefully, GBA VC as N3DS exclusive will be a thing still...

Please, no

 

[Arcadenik]

Toad got his own game before Luigi, Peach, or Bowser...

Tingle got his own game before Zelda or Ganondorf (not counting those games we don't talk about).

What about Mario Is Missing? That one came out in 1992... unless we don't talk about it too.

 

[AreJay25]

Actually there's one thing that upsets me about Kirby: Planet Robobot.

You have to buy the new Kirby amiibo to get the UFO ability. This hurts me on a personal level.

 

[N3ON]

Princess Peach for the DS and Luigi's Mansion

Wario's Woods. NES game.

Technically he shared it with resident rival character Wario so that particular example is a bit dicey.

Wario is the antagonist but Toad is the playable protagonist. I'd call it Toad's game more than Wario's.

Well Slippy's a love to hate character in the West. Unlike Tingle's rep which is more akin to "call the cops!"

How does that change anything?

 

[Deleted member]

Agreed.

I do like how Federation Force looks and I'm insanely hype for HW

Yeah, Federation Force is actually looking good.

 

[Champ Gold]

Actually there's one thing that upsets me about Kirby: Planet Robobot.

You have to buy the new Kirby amiibo to get the UFO ability. This hurts me on a personal level.

How personal?

 

[_Sheik]

Nintendo has managed to make me consider SF0 and HW:L in high spirits again when I thought the hype had faded away (not that it was really there in the first place for those games). Kirby looks cool, but sorta rehashed. Medli, Toon Ganondorf and more DLC coming our way? YES. Paper Mario's okay, probably not gonna get it tho.

This is the first Direct whose content was effectively (but partly) leaked. You won't be able to use the "never ever leaked" argument again now...

 

[N3ON]

What about Mario Is Missing? That one came out in 1992... unless we don't talk about it too.

Tbh I completely forgot that existed... but yeah... much like Nintendo, we don't talk about those ones either lol.

 

[Opossum]

Princess Peach for the DS and Luigi's Mansion

Except Wario's Woods came before both of those.

Late but I don't even care.

 

[AreJay25]

How personal?

More personal than my prized collection of Pac-Man avatars.

 

[Ivander]

-Yay Star Fox
-Yay Kirby
-Yay Monster Hunter
-Yay Fire Emblem
-Yay SNES VC
-Yay Medli
-Yay Mario Maker
-Yay Splatoon
-4 more sets of DLC for Hyrule Warriors. Get the season pack to get WW Ganondorf.......My honest reaction was literally, "You *******! My wallet is still destroyed from last month."
-Nice Paper Mario
-Nice Rhythm Heaven
-You look much better, Federation Force. People will still not care, but I will get you.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Actually there's one thing that upsets me about Kirby: Planet Robobot.

You have to buy the new Kirby amiibo to get the UFO ability. This hurts me on a personal level.

No you don't. UFO Kirby looked different from it's usual design, like the other amiibo abilities. AKA, you can most likely get the UFO ability but without the different design, and you can't get it at will

 

[Deleted member]

RIP Paper Mario being an RPG. Least you went out with a bang with TTYD.

 

[_Sheik]

Well, looks like that leak was 100% true minus Yo-Kai watch. Good thing I didn't anticipate anything in advance.

It was true because it was only for the European. We got the demo launching right after the presentation on the European eShop!

 

[N3ON]

I don't really understand the lack of depth people thought FF would have to think what was shown looks so much better.

And I'm not saying the game looks inherently bad. It's different than normal Metroid affair (which is another topic entirely), but it'll probably be solid.

I just don't get what makes it look so much better now. What they showed is pretty much exactly what people were expecting from the game.

 

[AreJay25]

No you don't. UFO Kirby looked different from it's usual design, like the other amiibo abilities. AKA, you can most likely get the UFO ability but without the different design, and you can't get it at will

Unfortunately not the case.

They specifically said it's the only way to get the ability. Even with the different design.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

tbh I only cared about Fates. A NEW 3DSXL WITH the special edition AND a new Kirby game? RIP wallet. Also need those Kirby amiibo, especially Meta Knight. So shiny!

Unfortunately not the case.

They specifically said it's the only way to get the ability. Even with the different design.

Really? I didn't hear it get a namedrop. Then again, skype call with 3 friends and me constantly squeeing. I'm a sucker for Kirby anyway so eh, the amiibo is cute enough

 

[Deleted member]

I hate gdtting teased by the Pokemon VC games
"Hey look at this game you can't buy because you're missing 97 cents!
Also, there's a VC game called Scat lol

 

[Guybrush20X6]

My favorite part of the Paper Mario Trailer was a Shy Guy literally sucking the color out of a Toad, with a drinking straw, and Mario is just standing there doing nothing. As if he's trying to figure out if it's his problem or not.

 

[Spikeez]

OMG this new Kirby game... I just can't...

Kirby.

With FREAKING expanded Mega Man X Ride Armor style. And then there's the Doctor ability.

I need it. Like, right now, I need this game in my hands now. I don't care if it's not going to release today just give it to me.

 

[AreJay25]

Already on Gamexplain's video:

I can only imagine what will happen once Nintendo uploads it.

 

[Wario Bros.]

DAMN IT GiIvaSunner! WHY THE HELL ARE YOU ALWAYS SO SPOT ON?

FYI, I'm fine with Color Splash

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

It's here!
https://www.change.org/p/nintendo-c...utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink

 

[Arcadenik]

OMG this new Kirby game... I just can't...

Kirby.

With FREAKING expanded Mega Man X Ride Armor style. And then there's the Doctor ability.

I need it. Like, right now, I need this game in my hands now. I don't care if it's not going to release today just give it to me.

I am glad I am not the only one who thought it reminded me of Mega Man X.

 

[Deleted member]

So here are my thoughts on the Direct:

Spoiler: WARNING, OPINIONS INCOMING

Positives:
-Kirby Planet Robobot: For me this is by far the best (and one of the few exciting) announcement of the whole Direct.

Look, im a sucker for the Pink Puff Ball. Even though this is obviously taking assest from Triple Deluxe, i still plan to get this game since i found TP to be a pretty damn solid game (my first 3DS game, and one of my favorites for that matter) and i expect this game to be just as fun. The Mechas look kickass and so does the rest of the game.

I hope this time Meta Knight DOES appear in the game (and i also hope he plays an important part on the story). Also Smash Kirby coming back as an ability is awesome and so is that Waddle Dee amiibo.

-Star Fox Zero: I hope this game doesn't get delayed again.


-Medli in HW Legends: Good to see at least 1 more Zelda Character joining the party. Now if we only could get the Groose Loose......

-RH Megamix: HOLY **** IT'S ALIVE AND IT'S COMING HERE. CUE THE FLIYING PIGS.

Mixed:
-Marth in MH Generations: Not interesed in the game, but still nice to see.

--Metroid Prime FF: Even though im still pretty hesitant to whenever or not to buy this game, at least this Direct gave me a little more positive image for it.

-Bravely Second: Still undecided if i should buy this game or not, but i have some interest.

-SNES games on NEW 3DS's virtual console: Amazing to hear (I hope to see Mega Man X, Super Mario RPG or Super Castlevania 4 released there someday) but im still stuck with the Classic 3DS. At least this gives a much better reason to upgrade though.

-Azure Striker Gunvolt 2: Maaaaybe im getting this game someday, but not now.

Negatives:
-Paper Mario Color Splash: Yeah yeah, i know i know, but im sorry. Im just not feeling this one. At least the game looks beautiful. I hope im wrong, but it feels like SS, but with Paint (Paper Mario Paint would have been a better name now that i think of it)

-FE Fates Revelations: This just looks wrong to me. Not the game itself, but the fact that revelations (the THIRD PATH of Fates mind you) is paid DLC. Not a separate version, but paid DLC so that if you want to choose the 3rd option, you have to obligatorily buy at least one version. I already knew about this, but i never talked about it until now, and i just want to say it annoys the hell outta me.


Great, now i have LESS interest in Fates than i already did. (and the lack of any mention to Roy's amiibo compatiblity with Fates is kinda sad, but i can live with it).

I dind't care for anything else really. (and i was already considering in buying TP HD so the mention of it in this Direct seemed unnecessary to me)

Overall, i thought it was an OK Direct. Nothing Mindblowing (Not like i was expecting much) but at least some intriguing things (to say the least) came out of it.

 

[JamesDNaux]

Guess I'll churn out my thoughts now that that's over.

• StarFox Zero: I thought this was yet another remake of the first SF, but it's apparently an entirely new story? Guess we know why they delayed it... Either way, I'm looking forward to it since I've never played a SF game, looks like a good entry point.
• StairFax at Freddy's: lol
• Mario Maker: Still not getting this game until they add slopes... and all the other missing content.
• FE: Nintendo is really milking this franchise for all it's worth, aren't they? Amazing how it went from an obscure Japan exclusive franchise to CROSSOVER WITH ALL THE THINGS.
• Paper Mario: I don't think even Nintendo cares about this franchise anymore. They didn't even build up the announcement or anything, it was just there.
• Hyrule Warriors: MEEEDLLIIII~ I really hope we'll be able to get these characters on the Wii U without the 3DS version at some point. I barely even care about the original anymore, but I'd surely dust it off to try them out.
• 3DSNES: I'll take ten.
• Federation Farce: I thought this was a football (soccer) game or something, the backlash really got to them.
• Triple Deluxe 2 - Electric Boogaloo: Kirby... in mechs? The weapon to surpass Metal Gear... Triple Deluxe was great and all, but I'm a bit disappointed we're not getting a nice HD Kirby on the U.

Guess we're waiting until E3 for Zelda U.

 

[AreJay25]

It's here!
https://www.change.org/p/nintendo-c...utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink

I CALLED IT

 

[Curious Villager]

I mean, if you really want to sample how the battle system works, then you're welcome to do so.
It's an ok demo, but they toss the battle system immediately with a rushed explanation on how it works.
So you kinda have to get in the zone.

I'll have a look into it and see how it goes I guess.

 

[Chrono.]

• SFZ now looks more substantial, still not a day 1 buy for me though (glad Wolf and Katt are back to their original designs)
• SF Guard is bizarre, guess they really needed to use those assets somewhere
• Those SMM updates are amazing
• I'm not even sure what to think about a second season pass for HW, but at least Medli is free
• Never cared about Paper Mario, but I can see the salt coming.
• SNES on 3DS VC is amazing and I'm so happy I've never bought SNES VC on Wii U
• KIRBY KIRBY KIRBY
• I might get Rhythm Heaven
• MPFF still looks fine, not really for me though
• MHG is a must buy for me

It's here!
https://www.change.org/p/nintendo-c...utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink

By "Jimmy Rustle"

Okay then

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Unfortunately not the case.

They specifically said it's the only way to get the ability. Even with the different design.

LIES. I JUST REWATCHED IT WITH SUBTITLES. SHIBATA DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING EVEN IMPLYING THAT!

 

[epicmartin7]

Huh. This is interesting.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Nintendo is publishing Shovel Knight in Japan.

 

[AreJay25]

LIES. I JUST REWATCHED IT WITH SUBTITLES. SHIBATA DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING EVEN IMPLYING THAT!

Well either Shibata lied or Bill lied.

Who lied, dammit?!

Edit: Whoops, wrong timestamp. It's about 10 seconds earlier

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I don't really understand the lack of depth people thought FF would have to think what was shown looks so much better.

And I'm not saying the game looks inherently bad. It's different than normal Metroid affair (which is another topic entirely), but it'll probably be solid.

I just don't get what makes it look so much better now. What they showed is pretty much exactly what people were expecting from the game.

For me personally, the amount of customization and roles the troopers can play really helps.

It gives a lot of variety. On paper anyways.

 

[Silvera]

DAMN IT GiIvaSunner! WHY THE HELL ARE YOU ALWAYS SO SPOT ON?

FYI, I'm fine with Color Splash

Based. He's truly a genius.

 

[Wario Bros.]

I still find it weird that you can have SNES Arwing for Zero but the original Star Fox still isn't available for Virtual Console

Fix plz (and maybe man up and do Star Fox 2 while you're at it because we know it's finished).