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Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

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Verde Coeden Scalesworth

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The problem with Alph is he has no tangible differences from Olimar himself. The only thing that could change is what Pikmin are being used, and there was not enough time to program that. Dark Pit was far easier to quickly make. As were the rest.
 

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Probably Sakubais.

Let me just say that I'm a fan of Dark Pit in Uprising, and was actually a character I had supported, but I've got to say that 1, he was executed rather poorly, not to mention there was only one reason for his inclusion, his Final Smash being different from Pit. Only thing is that there's no real thing preventing him from using the Three Sacred Treasures, it's a suit of armor, not like it's damaging to the canon or anything (Alph using the Hocatate and the Koopalings turning into Shadow Mario are admittedly much more damaging to the canon then Dark Pit sharing Pit's final smash) so I've got to say, he can be made more unique, but I've got to say that I feel that an alt would be the best direction for him, but that's just how I feel.

Here's a video that showcases the difference between Pit and Dark Pit.
I don't think Sakubias is really a real thing, but I agree DP could've been much better. Doesn't change that Alph should've been in over him and likely Lucina though.

The problem with Alph is he has no tangible differences from Olimar himself. The only thing that could change is what Pikmin are being used, and there was not enough time to program that. Dark Pit was far easier to quickly make. As were the rest.
Not really. Include the Rock Pikmin, change up the neutrals/grabs/aerials somewhat and you've got a clone on your hands. He wouldn'tve taken more time then Dr. Mario did.
 
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he can be made more unique,
Except he couldn't be because time contraints
I've got to say that I feel that an alt would be the best direction for him,
Nobody wants a former character turned into an alt. And with good reason. Thankfully Sakurai seems to be against the idea.

I don't think Sakubias is really a real thing, but I agree DP could've been much better. Doesn't change that Alph should've been in over him and likely Lucina though.
Lucina is hugely popular and definitely was the better choice than Alph
 
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Dr. Mario, Lucina, and Dark Pit probably took less time and money combined than a new character.

Food for thought.
 

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I like both Bayonettas.

It's just that there's a costume that absolutely hits all the targets for me


You don't understand what a woman in uniform can do to a man like me
 
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Clones in Smash aren't anywhere near as bad as other games. For example: In Ultra Street Fighter IV alone, :4ryu: has SEVEN clones to choose from.
Mmmmm, while clones are VERY common in general when it comes to fighting games, they usually tend to diversify.(Or sometimes you have an older version of the character in there too as a seperate slot.) Heck, out of the seven "clones" you've mentioned, most of them aren't really clones. I'm not against smash clones, I just see them as more content we could've not had at all if anything. But to say that clones in other fighting games are much worse is a HUGE stretch. :p
 

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I don't think Sakubias is really a real thing, but I agree DP could've been much better. Doesn't change that Alph should've been in over him and likely Lucina though.


Not really. Include the Rock Pikmin, change up the neutrals/grabs/aerials somewhat and you've got a clone on your hands. He wouldn'tve taken more time then Dr. Mario did.
Dark pit was changing the color of a few textures, porting 2 weapon model from Kid Icarus Uprising and redoing it in HD for WiiU, reskinning a final smash, and then changing the properties to 3 moves.
If we go off of what happened on main disc.
All things that Sakurai had access to far more easily than asking and doing the waving of rights to use more Pikmin 3 things from Miyamoto.

Edit: To Elaborate the point, I'm PRETTY sure that DP was the last character made for the game and likely was under a VERY tight schedule to be made which is WHY he's so "sloppy" and similar.
 
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Not really. Include the Rock Pikmin, change up the neutrals/grabs/aerials somewhat and you've got a clone on your hands. He wouldn'tve taken more time then Dr. Mario did.
The Rock Pikmin require all new models, and need to actually be different from the Purple Pikmin to justify being playable. That requires a lot of time and testing. All of Dr. Mario's moves required barely any time at all because no major model changes were necessary. Every move already existed. That's how easy it was. Dark Pit even has actual differences from Pit. Alph meanwhile was perfect as an alt because you don't miss any of the character being played, as the entire focus is on the Pikmin.

I don't disagree with the idea of Alph being in, but yes, he'd take more time than any of the clones to made anywhere near unique. Every other clone required far less time to make.
 
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Except he couldn't be because time contraints

Nobody wants a former character turned into an alt. And with good reason. Thankfully Sakurai seems to be against the idea.
How do you know that no one here wants him to be turned into the very thing he was supposed to be?

Honestly, he's one of my favorite characters from Uprising, but I've got to say that I really don't think he has enough to be a character on his own merits, and I'm saying this 100% honestly. I supported Dark Pit's inclusion, but due to his execution, I'm not really a fan of him returning, at least as his own character.
 
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I like both Bayonettas.

It's just that there's a costume that absolutely hits all the targets for me


You don't understand what a woman in uniform can do to a man like me
Oh...

My...

Yes...
 

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I finished Undertale today.

To celebrate, I changed my sig quote...

That reminds me, why isn't there a game based on one of Shakespeare's plays yet?
 
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So, quick impressions with the DLC characters
Cloyd is really easy and fun to play as, hitting a meteor FAir is very satisfying
Corrin is main material holy **** I love them so much. Side B is easy to use when you get used to the timing
Bayonetta has a hard learning curve but is so fun to play as
The stages are nice too I guess
BUT WHAT ABOUT THAT FE MUSIC THO
ok pls explain everything idk what any of this means......
@Zoroarking Is there something I need to do to be entered into this raffle?
Basically, I bought a canadian eshop card thinking it would work on the US eshop and since I can't do anyfhing with it, I'm giving it away
I'll just make a Smash CPU match, you bet on one of them and winner gets it
So tagging Bedoop Bedoop too for fhe thingy

Choose a Smash character to bet on, FD all items yadda yadda
Will have to do it tomorrow tho so quote this post to make sure I see it
 
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There's only one thing "wrong" with clones.


:4marth:Do I pick the OG?

:4feroy:Do I pick the underdog?

:4lucina:Do I pick the bland one?

The internal struggle of someone who wants to use all of the characters but just ends up going with my boy anyway.
 

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So, quick impressions with the DLC characters
Cloyd is really easy and fun to play as, hitting a meteor FAir is very satisfying
Corrin is main material holy **** I love them so much. Side B is easy to use when you get used to the timing
Bayonetta has a hard learning curve but is so fun to play as
The stages are nice too I guess
BUT WHAT ABOUT THAT FE MUSIC THO



Basically, I bought a canadian eshop card thinking it would work on the US eshop and since I can't do anyfhing with it, I'm giving it away
I'll just make a Smash CPU match, you bet on one of them and winner gets it
So tagging Bedoop Bedoop too for fhe thingy

Choose a Smash character to bet on, FD all items yadda yadda
Will have to do it tomorrow tho so quote this post to make sure I see it
I pick corin (I am in a chat and people keeps telling he is good)
 

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It's a shame if it's true but I do remember that Star Fox is still the one franchise that has more average of bad games than Sonic ever did so there's that.


And it's last true good game was a 3DS port of the great original Star Fox game (and this is coming from someone who likes Assault)
 

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So, quick impressions with the DLC characters
Cloyd is really easy and fun to play as, hitting a meteor FAir is very satisfying
Corrin is main material holy **** I love them so much. Side B is easy to use when you get used to the timing
Bayonetta has a hard learning curve but is so fun to play as
The stages are nice too I guess
BUT WHAT ABOUT THAT FE MUSIC THO



Basically, I bought a canadian eshop card thinking it would work on the US eshop and since I can't do anyfhing with it, I'm giving it away
I'll just make a Smash CPU match, you bet on one of them and winner gets it
So tagging Bedoop Bedoop too for fhe thingy

Choose a Smash character to bet on, FD all items yadda yadda
Will have to do it tomorrow tho so quote this post to make sure I see it
I should tag some Canadians. :p

@N3ON @Croph

...
I ran out of Canadians. :p
 

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Something-Something Bayo Costumes

Or more specifically
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I don't really care for Bayonetta
But the tiny Luigi keychain doll is adorable
So
+1 Daisy Outfit

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@Zoroarking
If we're allowed to pick whoever we want
I'll roll with Dedede :4pacman:
Because @Feelicks didn't tell me too but I'm blaming them for my choice anyway because Surely You Jestin' :4dedede:
 

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Very nice kimono esque design, I'd love to see that as a costume.
I mean...
It's a traditional style for Chinese dress (with a bit of adjustment for her physique and... "Design").
With its basis most likely being at the core of what became the Kimono.


One interpretation made a LITTLE famous by another leggy woman of gaming.
 
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I actually know quite a few Canadians on this site. Buuuut, not gonna bug them for my own sake. :p
 

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I mean...
It's a traditional style for Chinese dress (with a bit of adjustment for her physique and... "Design").
With its basis most likely being at the core of what became the Kimono.


One interpretation made a LITTLE famous by another leggy woman of gaming.
Chun-Li alone can be cute, hot, powerful, sexy and badass at the same time way before Bayo tried to perfect it.

Despite my preference towards Cammy. And it's hard deciding who's the best between those two. It's like a 1A vs 1B type of thing


Although they never gave Chun-Li her own spinoff game but have one to Cammy
 
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