Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

[Fenriraga]

So I just checked twitter and found this pokemon account:

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How did I never realize this before, and when will we see primeape return? He was one of my favorite catches of Ash, him and pidgeot need to come back! Especially pidegeot, it lives like 10 feet from Ash's house yet we never see it.

Also there was this theory on why some pokemon evolve by trading:

Spoiler

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It's a interesting theory, but really sad at the same time. Makes me feel bad for trading...

Screw Primeape, I have a better question.

Is that a Charizard taking a selfie?

 

[Kirby Dragons]

...I knew that...

Random topic: Name a game you'd like to see happen one day! I'd personally want to see a Kirby RPG, with the copy abilities, animal buddies and the other protagonists like Meta Knight and Bandana Dee as potential party members. It could even use the Super Abilities as Limit Breaks

Do I have to stick with one?

A Kirby RPG, a Nintendo crossover RPG, a Mario fighting game, a Super Smash Bros. racing spin-off, Disney vs Warner Brothers, Nintendo vs Shonen Jump, a Disney crossover fighter, Nintendo vs Capcom...

 

[Z25]

What I'd like to know is when did Ash get his Primeape back from Anthony? And more importantly, why was this never actually shown off?

It's never shown off, it was in a Shinnoh opening apparently. Which makes no sense, I'd love to see it back at one point!

Screw Primeape, I have a better question.

Is that a Charizard taking a selfie?

Yes, he clearly is skilled at it.

And Ok, I just read on Joe's twitter that the energy comes from mega greninja, and that allan says to Ash that their bond was so deep that he was able to mega evolve without a key stone or mega stone.

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He posted this in regards to someone saying that Ash's heart was the mega stone.

While this is probably a joke, this would be a really nice tieback to the first movie. But they like to ignore the movies so this won't happen.

 

[Wolfie557]

So.
Tournament "bracket" getting set up.
vs vs
vs vs
vs vs
vs vs (Mii Ashley)

Well for the Mii it should probably either be Viridi or Ashley imho so I agree with ya.

...I knew that...

Random topic: Name a game you'd like to see happen one day! I'd personally want to see a Kirby RPG, with the copy abilities, animal buddies and the other protagonists like Meta Knight and Bandana Dee as potential party members. It could even use the Super Abilities as Limit Breaks

Kid Icarus Uprising 2. (name temp)

• Multiple Chapter Paths ala Hyrule Warriors
• Expanded online to be close to what Splatoon is - basically more maps and more versus options than Uprising will do.
• HD, Home Console game.
• More playable characters in the story other than Pit e.g Dark Pit (more frequently), Phosphora ect
• Amazing story
• Better cutscenes
• Land Sections improved because Platinum Games*.
• Uprising - style VA & anime returns
• A different subtitle than Uprising. I would like Kid Icarus sequels to go that route rather than adding on numbers.

.......never going to happen.

 

[ChikoLad]

This is way cuter than it should be.

Another reason to ship them.

 

[MainJPW]

So what do you say? Anyone else want to try thinking up dream stage selections?

Kinda late but eh..w/e.

: Super Bell Hill and/or Really Rolling Hills, Dream World and The Underwhere.
: Bowser's Castle and The Bowser Express.
: Syrup Castle, Toy Block Tower and Whoopsy Desert. Anything from any Wario Land game is good.
: Gangplank Galleon, Sunset Beach, Handy Hazards or Frozen Frenzy. Anything but a jungle.
: Spirit Temple.
: Ganons Tower.
: I'm hearing Space Colony Ark a lot so I'll go with--Death Egg Zone from Sonic 3, Ice Cap Zone or Flying Battery Zone for a "Classic" stage.

For a "Modern" stage I'd go with--Windy Valley, Ocean Palace Zone or Planet Wisp.
: Threed, Summers and Gygas' Lair.
: Thunder Castle, Osohe Castle or Empire Porky Building.
: Phenandra Drifts. Anything but a Lava level.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Hi dead, I'm uncle!




No but seriously, I became an uncle for the first time last night. I feel old.

Well, you're an animal. They age faster.

I've been an Uncle(well, an Aunt, but my current gender is only known online) multiple times.

 

[Z25]

Well for the Mii it should probably either be Viridi or Ashley imho so I agree with ya.

Kid Icarus Uprising 2. (name temp)

• Multiple Chapter Paths ala Hyrule Warriors
• Expanded online to be close to what Splatoon is - basically more maps and more versus options than Uprising will do.
• HD, Home Console game.
• More playable characters in the story other than Pit e.g Dark Pit (more frequently), Phosphora ect
• Amazing story
• Better cutscenes
• Land Sections improved because Platinum Games*.
• Uprising - style VA & anime returns
• A different subtitle than Uprising. I would like Kid Icarus sequels to go that route rather than adding on numbers.

.......never going to happen.

A platinum games made Kid Iccarus....

It probably play like Bayonnetta in terms of action and design...

But that might not be a bad thing...

I wouldn't mind seeing it, but the r34 fanart would get out of hand fast...

 

[Swamp Sensei]

This is way cuter than it should be.

Another reason to ship them.

Grammar implies they are all dead mothers.

Oh dear.

 

[ChikoLad]

Grammar implies they are all dead mothers.

Oh dear.

It's funny because when I first played Galaxy as a 12-13 year old.

I thought Rosalina was supposed to be a ghostly spirit for a little bit.

 

[Wolfie557]

A platinum games made Kid Iccarus....

It probably play like Bayonnetta in terms of action and design...

But that might not be a bad thing...

I wouldn't mind seeing it, but the r34 fanart would get out of hand fast...

I would expect something between Platinum style pure action and Uprisings simplistic combos, tbh.

Besides they should do well with the flying sections too, especially after thier experience gained from Starfox Zero.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Spoiler: Some neat Replays

What do you guys think?

 

[ChikoLad]

A platinum games made Kid Iccarus....

It probably play like Bayonnetta in terms of action and design...

But that might not be a bad thing...

I wouldn't mind seeing it, but the r34 fanart would get out of hand fast...

...Where did that comment on R34 come from?

 

[BluePikmin11]

I may have figured out a way to make the Undertale Neutral ending just as effective on the Wii U, if exiting the game automatically is impossible:

Spoiler: Undertale

Alternatively, instead of crashing the game itself, in-game it pretends to crash with a black screen and eventually show you the "Returning to Wii U Menu" screen (Like all Wii U games do when you leave the application), only much different:

In-game, there would be a menu that would look just like the Wii U menu, looking much more sinister looking:

Obviously you can't start up any of the applications in white, (and if possible not allow the player to use the Home Menu button) and you can only start up the one with the Flowey icon. In-game, once the Flowey application starts, it'll have its own pretend loading screen, changing the name of Undertale to Floweytale.

Then cue the final boss fight. The solution is rather is easy to figure out and I feel this could be just as twisted as playing Undertale on PC.

 

[_Sheik]

Kinda late but eh..w/e.

: Super Bell Hill and/or Really Rolling Hills, Dream World and The Underwhere.
: Bowser's Castle and The Bowser Express.
: Syrup Castle, Toy Block Tower and Whoopsy Desert. Anything from any Wario Land game is good.
: Gangplank Galleon, Sunset Beach, Handy Hazards or Frozen Frenzy. Anything but a jungle.
: Spirit Temple.
: Ganons Tower.
: I'm hearing Space Colony Ark a lot so I'll go with--Death Egg Zone from Sonic 3, Ice Cap Zone or Flying Battery Zone for a "Classic" stage.

For a "Modern" stage I'd go with--Windy Valley, Ocean Palace Zone or Planet Wisp.
: Threed, Summers and Gygas' Lair.
: Thunder Castle, Osohe Castle or Empire Porky Building.
: Phenandra Drifts. Anything but a Lava level.

I just want me some Tri-Force Heroes stage because the idea has been obsessing me for a long while...

 

[ChikoLad]

I really wanted a Comet Observatory stage when Rosalina was still a pipe dream to me years back.

I'm satisfied with the Mario Galaxy stage, in fact it's awesome that it takes place on Rosalina's original home, in the nicer state it was in within the storybook, rather than the events of Galaxy. It's an amazing attention to detail most people don't even notice.

But the Comet Observatory is just a glaring omission in this game. There isn't even a trophy of it. A stage of it would be cool for the next game, especially if Mario Galaxy 3 or a Rosalina game happens by that point and it gets expanded upon in some way.

Or they could just make it Rosalina's Final Smash.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Apparently you can't find the original Lost in Thoughts All Alone on Youtube as Youtube's copyright system will automatically mute it.

Damn. It's my favorite song that we got.

 

[SuperMii3D]

Apparently you can't find the original Lost in Thoughts All Alone on Youtube as Youtube's copyright system will automatically mute it.

Damn. It's my favorite song that we got.

I downloaded it and I'm listening to it right now

 

[Frostwraith]

The Bayonetta Virtua Fighter reference is really interesting. I had first heard the Japanese phrase in the Sound Test, but had no idea why did she have a Japanese quote in there...

I first assumed it was a mistake and they had left a clip from the Japanese voice, but the voice didn't match Bayonetta's Japanese VA at all and sounded more like her English voice. And then I was playing as her and heard it when using a forward throw.

I had known she had a reference to Virtua Fighter in her forward throw (seen some people on Twitter mentioning it), so I asked one of SG's translators about it and everything became clear.

Once again, Smash thrives in Easter Eggs like these.

 

[Coricus]

Does anyone else just legitimately like M-Corrin's KO scream for how ridiculous it is?

It just sounds so hilarious.

 

[Z25]

Spoiler: Some neat Replays

What do you guys think?

That second K.O. on the little mac one was pretty crazy! Nice job.

...Where did that comment on R34 come from?

I was thinking it would take the style of Bayonnetta( most likely less sexual), but that alone would encourage even more drawings like that for Kid icarus, then there ever were.

Still the action for it would fit perfectly for the KI franchise.

I would expect something between Platinum style pure action and Uprisings simplistic combos, tbh.

Besides they should do well with the flying sections too, especially after thier experience gained from Starfox Zero.

This would probably be the case. It be nice to see as well. I know a lot of people hated the flying section in KI:U but I didn't mind them, still though changing them up wouldn't be bad.

 

[Frostwraith]

Apparently you can't find the original Lost in Thoughts All Alone on Youtube as Youtube's copyright system will automatically mute it.

Damn. It's my favorite song that we got.

Copyright issues involving the lyrics, probably. Sometimes the song composition and the lyrics are owned by different entities and there's also the involvement of singers and such.

Likely the reason we got instrumental versions of Mysterious Destiny and Tomorrow Is Mine instead of the original versions. Same thing happened with other vocal songs from third-parties such as Snake Eater in Brawl.

 

[Champ Gold]

Hi dead, I'm uncle!




No but seriously, I became an uncle for the first time last night. I feel old.

Don't worry I'm gonna be joining you in that class as well.

Gonna be an uncle in 4 months

 

[ChikoLad]

That second K.O. on the little mac one was pretty crazy! Nice job.

I was thinking it would take the style of Bayonnetta( most likely less sexual), but that alone would encourage even more drawings like that for Kid icarus, then there ever were.

Still the action for it would fit perfectly for the KI franchise.

This would probably be the case. It be nice to see as well. I know a lot of people hated the flying section in KI:U but I didn't mind them, still though changing them up wouldn't be bad.

Bayonetta has a pretty low amount of R34 for the kind of character she is.

A game being developed by Platinum Games would in no way effect the amount of R34 it gets. It's guaranteed to get some regardless though, such is the nature of R34.

Hell, Dead or Alive girls don't even get much.

 

[Z25]

So now that we have the last smash DLC, we are also closer to corocoro.

With their teaser for huge news, who thinks it will be Pokemon Z?

After the anime episode and looking through past times that they have done this type of teaser, I think Pokemon Z is looking about 80% likely.

I hope it is, as I'm curious as for what they will do to improve upon XY.
This time next week, we should know for sure.

So what do you think is the corocoro announcement?

Bayonetta has a pretty low amount of R34 for the kind of character she is.

A game being developed by Platinum Games would in no way effect the amount of R34 it gets. It's guaranteed to get some regardless though, such is the nature of R34.

Hell, Dead or Alive girls don't even get much.

I wasn't saying that it being made by platinum would cause, but the way they design the characters. Either way, it doesn't really matter much.

 

[Frostwraith]

Bayonetta has a pretty low amount of R34 for the kind of character she is.

A game being developed by Platinum Games would in no way effect the amount of R34 it gets. It's guaranteed to get some regardless though, such is the nature of R34.

Hell, Dead or Alive girls don't even get much.

>Bayonetta
>Dead or Alive girls
>There's no R34

Can't say I'm surprised. After all, they're already sexualized to the point there's no need to make lewd art of them. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

[Khoru]

Copyright issues involving the lyrics, probably. Sometimes the song composition and the lyrics are owned by different entities and there's also the involvement of singers and such.

Likely the reason we got instrumental versions of Mysterious Destiny and Tomorrow Is Mine instead of the original versions. Same thing happened with other vocal songs from third-parties such as Snake Eater in Brawl.

yeah this kind of brouhaha is why tsunku's involvement in rhythm heaven is worrying to me

 

[Curious Villager]

I kinda feel silly for just noticing it. But those angel guys in the background of the Umbra clock tower stage look to be hand drawn 2D sprites even in the Wii U version. I thought they where 3D models first. I suppose that makes sense though.

 

[ChikoLad]

So now that we have the last smash DLC, we are also closer to corocoro.

With their teaser for huge news, who thinks it will be Pokemon Z?

After the anime episode and looking through past times that they have done this type of teaser, I think Pokemon Z is looking about 80% likely.

I hope it is, as I'm curious as for what they will do to improve upon XY.
This time next week, we should know for sure.

So what do you think is the corocoro announcement?

I wasn't saying that it being made by platinum would cause, but the way they design the characters. Either way, it doesn't really matter much.

...But they don't have any particular trend for designing characters.

They make them differently depending on the kind of game they are making.

You know....just like any sensible developer.

They made W101 after all. And have made licensed things before.

Hell, they're making Star Fox: Zero. Their redesigns for the characters don't look especially sexual there.

I dunno it feels like you are pulling this out of nowhere. Embarrisingly blatant attempts at sex appeal are a Bayonetta thing, not a Platinum Games thing.

>Bayonetta
>Dead or Alive girls
>There's no R34

Can't say I'm surprised. After all, they're already sexualized to the point there's no need to make lewd art of them. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

They have a decent amount.

But not much because they are niche.

Reason being that people don't actually widely find them that sexy.

 

[Coricus]

Bayonetta has a pretty low amount of R34 for the kind of character she is.

A game being developed by Platinum Games would in no way effect the amount of R34 it gets. It's guaranteed to get some regardless though, such is the nature of R34.

Hell, Dead or Alive girls don't even get much.

. . .I guess people don't want fanservice handed to them on a silver platter, they just want to use R34 to corrupt things they see as innocent.

 

[Champ Gold]

>Bayonetta
>Dead or Alive girls
>There's no R34

Can't say I'm surprised. After all, they're already sexualized to the point there's no need to make lewd art of them. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Oh it's there and it exist by the truckload for each series but doesn't come close to that of Pokemon.

Oh good God almighty, that is a nightmare in itself. And yet FE is actually pretty low despite that spark from the recent games


Don't ask me how I know all of this, I get my information from some source that isn't exactly from the source but others opinions

 

[Frostwraith]

yeah this kind of brouhaha is why tsunku's involvement in rhythm heaven is worrying to me

Considering that Rhythm Heaven is a first party franchise, it would be probably easier for Sakurai and Nintendo to negotiate such stuff. Even so, checking out the Pikmin songs "Ai no Uta" and "Tane no Uta" in Brawl's Sound Test and looking at the copyright info will tell that those songs aren't owned by Nintendo at all.

Third-parties are harder to deal because there's more royalties to pay and they can't afford to spend so much of the budget in licensing.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

I think there's a "forbidden fruit" factor in the creation of Rule 34 stuff that needs studying... for science...

 

[Champ Gold]

Considering that Rhythm Heaven is a first party franchise, it would be probably easier for Sakurai and Nintendo to negotiate such stuff. Even so, checking out the Pikmin songs "Ai no Uta" and "Tane no Uta" in Brawl's Sound Test and looking at the copyright info will tell that those songs aren't owned by Nintendo at all.

Third-parties are harder to deal because there's more royalties to pay and they can't afford to spend so much of the budget in licensing.

AKA why Cloud has 2 songs.

It's moreso the issue that it could be Uematsu holding the songs hostage and Sakurai could go for a settlement and just use other FF music but wanted 90% FF7

 

[Coricus]

Oh it's there and it exist by the truckload for each series but doesn't come close to that of Pokemon.

Oh good God almighty, that is a nightmare in itself. And yet FE is actually pretty low despite that spark from the recent games


Don't ask me how I know all of this, I get my information from some source that isn't exactly from the source but others opinions

Oh gosh, Pokémon.

We all learn the hard way that it gets nasty stuff, and what Pokémon is by far the most common target.

I learned on Colors 3D due to the utter lack of moderation when I used it.

Guybrush20X6 and his crew went so far as to make a comic about this kind of situation of stumbling across the wrong fanart by accident, which makes sense considering who their mascot happens to be. . .

 

[ChikoLad]

I think there's a "forbidden fruit" factor in the creation of Rule 34 stuff that needs studying... for science...

Not really.

Sexualized characters aren't automatically widely sexy, that's all.

Characters like DoA girls and Bayonetta are niche because they come off as parodies of sexy characters rather than being legit really sexy. That's sort of their point.

With DoA girls, it's the absurd anime jiggle physics. And the fact the all have the face of a twelve year old school girl.

With Bayonetta, her legs are just stupidly long in proportion to the rest of her body. And due to the black clothes, a lot of people call her "Spider Legs". She also does all of those ridiculous flailing around animations that would look completely awkward IRL.

 

[Substitution]

I think there's a "forbidden fruit" factor in the creation of Rule 34 stuff that needs studying... for science...

Why bother? We already know the answer.
People like to get their jollies off of their favorite characters (regardless of any dignity sacrificed in the progress). That or the "lulz" as many trolls like to say.

 

[Frostwraith]

I think there's a "forbidden fruit" factor in the creation of Rule 34 stuff that needs studying... for science...

You mean human nature? I think science has already found many of the answers you seek.

AKA why Cloud has 2 songs.

It's moreso the issue that it could be Uematsu holding the songs hostage and Sakurai could go for a settlement and just use other FF music but wanted 90% FF7

Nah. FF music's case is not Uematsu doing anything. He doesn't own the songs he made as an Square Enix employee. (Similarly, the Brawl main theme that he also composed isn't owned by him but by Nintendo and HAL Laboratory, the owners of the Smash Bros. IP.)

The matter behind why there's only 2 FF songs in Smash is Square Enix being Square Enix. Check the copyright info in the Sound Test. It says the copyright is held by Square Enix.

They likely charged a lot more than Nintendo/Sakurai expected and had to go for the minimum possible. In this case, as all stages on the 3DS version have 2 songs, they settled for that number.

And well, guys, I'll be off for the night. See you all later.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Embarrisingly blatant attempts at sex appeal are a Bayonetta thing

Embarassing?

Dude, Bayonetta's entire character and design is based on a woman's power fantasy. That woman drew her.

It's not some "hurrr durr men want boobs" kind of thing. It's the kind of woman she wanted to be.

 

[ChikoLad]

Embarassing?

Dude, Bayonetta's entire character and design is based on a woman's power fantasy.

It's not some "hurrr durr men want boobs" kind of thing.

I know that.

That's why she's a parody of an average man's idea of sexy, and not actually the average man's idea of sexy.