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Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

Should we add a poll to the thread?


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It seems Sakurai mentioned alongside the new characters and stages, a new Master Ball Pokémon has been added into the game

Will try to find if it's true
This sounds like something that SHOULD have been announced in December if it ended up being true. :|
 
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She won a popularity contest. It's very hard to say Bayonetta wasn't popular.
In terms of her overall popularity, as a character in gaming, she's far from uber popular yet.

Also the Smash Ballot had less than 2 million votes, we know that certain characters had more votes than her but weren't realistic, and we also don't know how many votes she got. She could have had less than 100,000 for all we know. We don't know how many characters were accounted for.

Let's not go jumping to conclusions and overestimating things.
 
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They're good, great even, nowhere near broken though.
Cloud especially from what i seen tonight is a shiek counter.If not a counter can hold his own and beat her.And isn't ryu like top 5 in the game?I thought it was shiek,ZSS,pikachu,rosalina,and ryu
 

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This sounds like something that SHOULD have been announced in December if it ended up being true. :|
I mean, if it's legit, it DOES explain why the trophy count Sakurai gave us and the trophy count we counted didn't add up, but it's suspicious.
 

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In terms of her overall popularity, as a character in gaming, she's far from Iberia popular yet.

Also the Smash Ballot had less than 2 million votes, we know that certain characters had more votes than her but weren't realistic, and we also don't know how many votes she got. She could have had less than 100,000 for all we know. We don't know how many characters were accounted for.

Let's not go jumping to conclusions and overestimating things.
She still won and that's all that matters in the end darling.
 

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DLC was damn good IMO. Mewtwo and Lucas were two of the most popular veterans that people wanted back. Roy had some good popularity from Melee and making him must have been pretty easy. Ryu, Cloud and Bayo are all great third parties with cool movesets. Corrin looks cool too.
 
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It seems Sakurai mentioned alongside the new characters and stages, a new Master Ball Pokémon has been added into the game

Will try to find if it's true
If true, it's probably Zygarde or Volcanion.
 

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She still won and that's all that matters in the end darling.
I'm not saying anything against her inclusion.

Just don't pretend she's comparable to Cloud or Ryu just because she won a ballot that was fairly niche to begin with, and where we don't actually known the scale of the votes she got.
 
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Can someone link me the 2 gameplay videos Nintendo Japan posted please?

Unlike the UK ones which it always auto-directs me there to, it is 1080p, 60fps.
I'm not saying anything against her inclusion.

Just don't pretend she's comparable to Cloud or Ryu just because she won a ballot that was fairly niche to begin with, and where we don't actually known the scale of the votes she got.
Of course. But don't assume that's what I'm doing. I can bet that no matter what character could have won, they would not have more than 10% of the votes.
 
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I'm not saying anything against her inclusion.

Just don't pretend she's comparable to Cloud or Ryu just because she won a ballot that was fairly niche to begin with, and where we don't actually known the scale of the votes she got.
Except he made a point to separate Ryu and Cloud from "uber popular" characters, instead calling them "gaming icons".
 

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Except he made a point to separate Ryu and Cloud from "uber popular" characters, instead calling them "gaming icons".
Uber popular is a phrase more fitting of Ryu and Cloud levels of popularity, though.

It's just incredibly poor placement of the term. Uber implies a huge extreme, like it's top of the class.
 

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Uber popular is a phrase more fitting of Ryu and Cloud levels of popularity, though.

It's just incredibly poor placement of the term. Uber implies a huge extreme, like it's top of the class.
Yeah, and in terms of Smash speculation, Roy, Lucas, Mewtwo and Bayonetta fit it perfectly.
 

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It seems Sakurai mentioned alongside the new characters and stages, a new Master Ball Pokémon has been added into the game

Will try to find if it's true
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This would make the most sense. Better yet, if it was the dog form of Zygarde, that could make for some good buildup towards Pokemon Z.

My money is on Volcanion to promote the upcoming movie.
This is also a good guess. If a legendary Pokemon is to be added, it would have to be one of these two. I wonder if Zygarde or Volcanion came across Sakurai's radar of possible DLC characters, but due to timing and also moveset, he thought it would be best to leave them as a pokeball item.
 
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Yeah, and in terms of Smash speculation, Roy, Lucas, Mewtwo and Bayonetta fit it perfectly.
Other than Mewtwo, not really.

Hell most of you were saying Bayonetta was unlikely before she was confirmed, during the speculation phase. :V

Plus that's damage control. The original statement was speaking on a general level, not specific to Smash.
 

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so we only have a few days untill we can figure out if bayos stage is tourney legal
 

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Other than Mewtwo, not really.

Hell most of you were saying Bayonetta was unlikely before she was confirmed, during the speculation phase. :V

Plus that's damage control. The original statement was speaking on a general level, not specific to Smash.
I wasn't "most people".
But sure.

My money's on some weird Pokemon that doesn't seem obvious at first.
I'm thinking it's Hoopa for some reason.
 

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In my perception mainstream popularity Bayonetta it's not enough for be a icon like Ryu or Cloud
EDIT: "maybe is in the same level of Mewtwo" my mistake, sorry, it's only my perception, not in series sales
 
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Never has one picture so concisely summed up why people shouldn't even bother trying to seriously predict Smash/Sakurai.
 

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It was a post about Smash DLC. If i'm implying that Roy is in any way popular the only possible context is smash.
Even then it's debatable since for every person who wanted him back, there was one who really didn't.

Also that just makes your post more confusing with the wording. Are you saying Ryu and Cloud are only gaming icons "in relation to Smash"? :V
 
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Did someone seriously say Bayonetta is as popular as Mewtwo?
That's how it is in the Nintenzone Social.

We overhype things and spread misinformation in the heat of the moment.

And then get angry at Etika when he does the same thing in a more entertaining and presentable fashion.

:happysheep:
 
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