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~ Gheb ~

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I have nothing to prove to you. You're being foolish and salty because I made you look like a scrub. If you actually wanted to help town as much as possible you'd shoot nobody at all toNight so we have the best situation possible against the goons, number-wise. If you kill me you remove a mislynch from the town and leave it up to Ashy to decide which 2 of the remaining 5 players are goons.

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~ Gheb ~

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fwiw that's not how it works. kantrip's death was accidental. i wanted to reread in time to figure out which of you and xonar was better to shoot but then i got snapped up by irl so it got randomized to potato.
That's good to know. Can you specifically make the decision of shooting nobody?

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#HBC | Laundry

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I have nothing to prove to you. You're being foolish and salty because I made you look like a scrub. If you actually wanted to help town as much as possible you'd shoot nobody at all toNight so we have the best situation possible against the goons, number-wise. If you kill me you remove a mislynch from the town and leave it up to Ashy to decide which 2 of the remaining 5 players are goons.

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naw i had a bad game. **** happens, i ain't gonna let it get to me. i'm having fun watching you flounder to come up with a reason not to shoot you but still have absolutely zero basis as to why you're town anyway (because, surprise, you're not).

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#HBC | Laundry

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hilariously this game got a lot more fun as soon as i claimed. me oh my why couldn't i have had ramses as my ww partner.

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~ Gheb ~

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In other words at this point you actively refuse to be reasonable and let your salt get to your decision and get revenge on me for styling on you, instead of looking at the facts and realize that it makes little sense for me to be aligned with Ryu ... or that other slots like Joker are much more likely.

I mean if the FACTS cannot convince you to make a better call then frankly I couldn't be arsed to argue with you. You're going to shoot me and increase the odds for the goons to win to a point where they need only 1 mislynch to endgame town. You're not doing this for the town because the town gets no benefit whatsoever from it. You're doing it to sooth your own salty ass. Because at this point you do NOT care about shooting a goon. You just wanna get this kill on me anyway, no matter what.

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#HBC | ZoZo

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Alex (@ #HBC | Laundry #HBC | Laundry ):
As I've outlined, if Gheb flips scum we win. However, what worries me more is what happens if he flips town. In a scenario of Joey/Ashemu given townies the lynch is between Orboknown/Me/Joker. I know there's already a 3/5th majority interest in Joker (Ashemu, me, Joey), but what drives you to think I'm scum so bad? Is it still the argument you made earlier this dayphase?
 

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Ashemu, confirmed townie, thinks Joker is a goon. Plenty of convincing points have been posted on why Joker is likely a goon, by Xonar and by myself. Joey, read as town by like everybody, has been suspicious of Joker all game. Orbo has not voiced any objections against the arguments on him.

In case you still don't get it: JOKER IS A GOON.

On the other hand: Joker, scummiest slot in the game remaining, argues that I'm a goon. Laundry, saltiest mofo alive argues that I'm a goon. Nobody else earnestly argues the idea that I'm actually one of Ryu's mates. Protip: I'M NOT A GOON.

Maybe this will help you not making a terrible shot toNight.

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#HBC | ZoZo

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Alex (@ #HBC | Laundry #HBC | Laundry ):
As I've outlined, if Gheb flips scum we win. However, what worries me more is what happens if he flips town. In a scenario of Joey/Ashemu given townies the lynch is between Orboknown/Me/Joker. I know there's already a 3/5th majority interest in Joker (Ashemu, me, Joey), but what drives you to think I'm scum so bad? Is it still the argument you made earlier this dayphase?
Followup: Why do you think Joker is town from that post you quoted?
 

#HBC | Laundry

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In other words at this point you actively refuse to be reasonable and let your salt get to your decision and get revenge on me for styling on you, instead of looking at the facts and realize that it makes little sense for me to be aligned with Ryu ... or that other slots like Joker are much more likely.

I mean if the FACTS cannot convince you to make a better call then frankly I couldn't be arsed to argue with you. You're going to shoot me and increase the odds for the goons to win to a point where they need only 1 mislynch to endgame town. You're not doing this for the town because the town gets no benefit whatsoever from it. You're doing it to sooth your own salty ***. Because at this point you do NOT care about shooting a goon. You just wanna get this kill on me anyway, no matter what.

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Oh no, I know that Joker is likely to be aligned with him. Joker's easily lynchable though, or at the very least significantly more lynchable than you. It's just that your "facts" as you say are useless to me. I'm listening to other slots but you believe that you were instrumental in Ruy's lynch (eh not really) as if that somehow saves you despite your weird stance on him during D2 and that you were right on me (which doesn't prevent you from being Mafia really). None of what you've said really makes me think you're town. You have every reason to want me dead because you accurately called that I am not scum (with you) and have pushed me ever since. You have every reason to scrape for every bit of towncred about the Ruy lynch because I am rightly questioning it. If these are the only "facts" that confirm you as town then I'm sad to say they're weak at best and completely useless at worst.

Right now, from my point of view, town consists of Orbo/Ashemu/Joey for certain. To me, at least one of you/Ramses holds a scum. You two, whom I'm convinced hold a scum and have a decent shot of both being scum, have been dominating the game in terms of talking points since Ryker died. I want town to win this game. Removing one of you two makes town put their own damn legwork in instead of being lead by the nose by two of my biggest suspects. I could shoot Joker, sure, but Joker is the most obvious scum not named Ramses/Gheb and I have no question of whether or not he'll be lynched.

Also you do have wiggle room. If you flip town, lynch Joker tomorrow, and then lynch Ramses, then lynch Orbo if the game magically doesn't end.

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Actually, make that all slots, though I don't think other slots are particularily relevant if we go through with our current plan.
 

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so tl;dr, i'm shooting one of you or ramses tonight. your job right now is not to convince me i'm an idiot because i just get more amused at your salt (it's really fun to be bullheaded with you). it's to convince me that you're not scum and ramses is.

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#HBC | ZoZo

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so tl;dr, i'm shooting one of you or ramses tonight. your job right now is not to convince me i'm an idiot because i just get more amused at your salt (it's really fun to be bullheaded with you). it's to convince me that you're not scum and ramses is.

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Well I mean at least one of us is still trying to figure things out :troll:
 

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Alex (@ #HBC | Laundry #HBC | Laundry ):
As I've outlined, if Gheb flips scum we win. However, what worries me more is what happens if he flips town. In a scenario of Joey/Ashemu given townies the lynch is between Orboknown/Me/Joker. I know there's already a 3/5th majority interest in Joker (Ashemu, me, Joey), but what drives you to think I'm scum so bad? Is it still the argument you made earlier this dayphase?
No, actually. If anything that convinced me that you're not aligned with Orbo and are likely not aligned with Joker. No scummer worth his salt would intentionally be throwing his mate into the limelight like that. I think you're scum if Gheb is not scum because I can't see a ruy/orbo/joker team and I still think it's possible you're scum with Gheb because of your whackass stance on Gheb earlier today.

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Orbo where do you stand on me/Joker right now?
The only thing rhat gives me pause on him is how little he's been here since later d1/early d2, because i found him more townie than joey during their spat (or at least what i read of it). Jokers also pulling back on his scumread to reeval according to his bigger post, where as joey doesn't have that and his **** with ghebs wagon stuff was weird.
You, on the other hand, I'm not sure about. A lot of what you've done since laundry came out has been pure math, like you aren't quite sure where to go. I liked your probe of laundry but all it really says to me was that you weren't aligned with him.
 

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sorry that post just really made me think of back to the lab again

anyway
If I'm confirmed to not be scum with Joker or Orboknown to you, wouldn't it do more to shoot Joker, leaving us with
 

#HBC | Laundry

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If I'm confirmed to not be scum with Joker or Orboknown to you, wouldn't it do more to shoot Joker, leaving us with
No, as I've already said, Joker is basically a foregone lynch at this point and there's little reason to shoot him in my mind for that reason and I don't want town being lead by you two because I think one of you holds a scum with a reasonable shot of both of you being scum.

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WOOPS
Leaving us with me/Orboknown/Gheb/Ashemu/Joey, Gheb being the obvious target?
Because at that point, Gheb isn't obvious. As much as I would love seeing him implode with salt because I allowed town to PoE him to death, I'd rather just drag his scummy ass with me and watch as his team crumbles in his absence.

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No, as I've already said, Joker is basically a foregone lynch at this point and there's little reason to shoot him in my mind for that reason and I don't want town being lead by you two because I think one of you holds a scum with a reasonable shot of both of you being scum.

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shoot xonar/lynch gheb/shoot joker/lynch you? Leaves me ash n joey in a possible lylo?
Yes it was. Sorry >:
 

#HBC | ZoZo

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Lynch JimMo Shoot Gheb
Lynch Joker Shoot Xonar
Laundry/Orboknown/Joey/Ashemu
Lynch Laundry
Lynch Orboknown

I am okay with this.
 
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