Swag Halloween Mafia --- swag NEVER ends

[Orboknown]

Wait glyph is in this game?

 

[Kantrip]

Also Gheb one more question: why don't you want to lynch ruy?

 

[Kantrip]

Oh **** I'm bad

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Holy **** Kantrip have you even read this game at all? You really can't see why I consider JM a reasonable lynch at this point? Where do you get the idea from that I'm against lynching Ryu? And what the hell are you brabbling about Glyph?

You should not be surprised about why I think you're scum.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

I can't vote laundry

Not toDay.

And I actually agree that people are giving Xonar and me too much of a free pass. Though I'll actually have my eyes on him, I wonder if people will actually start questioning anything I do.

Frankly, I don't trust you at all. I think ppl are giving you a pass because Ryker was sucking you off so hard, and then he died and flipped town.

 

[Kantrip]

JM for policy lynch I guess? You've failed to answer my question.

You have said a laundry or JM swing can happen. You clearly don't think a Ruy swing can happen. Why is that? I assumed you didn't want him lynched based on that.

I mixed up games with glyph. Simple mistake.

No you have no valid reason to scumread me. What do you have me on? Not providing content and mixing games up?

 

[Kantrip]

Gheb is scum 100%. I would take the noose if it meant he went down with me that's how confident I am right now

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Town probably consists of like Joker/Joey/Maven/Potato? Maybe?

5 town alive on day2 and you're not even listing yourself. That's past being a scumslip. I really need to go to bed but if Laundry is scum, lives, and nightkills me/Gheb it's gg especially with the way he's setting up town to distrust me/Gheb (though he is right to a certain extent, I don't like this at all in context), there'll be no power player to get past him. Not only that, but with my big post earlier this dayphase there's no reason to not be suspicious of Alex... and then the post I quoted here. ****'s sake.

Good night, gonna shower then sleep. Gotta wake up in <7 hours.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Oh I miscounted, that's 4+him. LEL

sorry
lmao

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

5 town alive on day2 and you're not even listing yourself. That's past being a scumslip. I really need to go to bed but if Laundry is scum, lives, and nightkills me/Gheb it's gg especially with the way he's setting up town to distrust me/Gheb (though he is right to a certain extent, I don't like this at all in context), there'll be no power player to get past him. Not only that, but with my big post earlier this dayphase there's no reason to not be suspicious of Alex... and then the post I quoted here. ****'s sake.

Good night, gonna shower then sleep. Gotta wake up in <7 hours.

Why the ****ing hell do I need to specify that I'm town? I made that post from the tone that I was probably dead. You're reaching way too hard into a wording tell.

 

[Kantrip]

5 town alive on day2 and you're not even listing yourself. That's past being a scumslip. I really need to go to bed but if Laundry is scum, lives, and nightkills me/Gheb it's gg especially with the way he's setting up town to distrust me/Gheb (though he is right to a certain extent, I don't like this at all in context), there'll be no power player to get past him. Not only that, but with my big post earlier this dayphase there's no reason to not be suspicious of Alex... and then the post I quoted here. ****'s sake.

Good night, gonna shower then sleep. Gotta wake up in <7 hours.

Wtf are you on about? He's scum because he listed four players he thinks are town and failed to list himself, and because he warns us that we shouldn't give you and gheb a pass?

You high?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

If we have the people, I'm fine with a Ryu lynch. His play regarding both the Maven lynch and the Laundry lynch are both disgusting.

Vote Ruy.

 

[Kantrip]

I need to reread ZoZo. Is he like that the rest of the game too?

Good gorf

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

@ ~ Gheb ~ vote ruy
@ #HBC | Joker vote ruy
@ #HBC | ZoZo vote ruy
@Maven89 vote ruy
@ Orboknown vote ruy

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

i miscounted at 1am after skimming what was said

excuse me for being human LOL

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Anyway the main point of that post is entirely missed by both of you.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

You have said a laundry or JM swing can happen. You clearly don't think a Ruy swing can happen. Why is that? I assumed you didn't want him lynched based on that.

Read the ****ing game, dude.

 

[Kantrip]

Holy **** Kantrip have you even read this game at all? You really can't see why I consider JM a reasonable lynch at this point? Where do you get the idea from that I'm against lynching Ryu? And what the hell are you brabbling about Glyph?

You should not be surprised about why I think you're scum.

Point blank. Would you lynch ruy or not. I ain't got time for your bull****.

We got me laundry Joey and Orbo on board so far?

 

[Kantrip]

Anyway the main point of that post is entirely missed by both of you.

And what's that? Paranoia that if we don't lynch laundry right now he will kill off you and gheb and weasel his way to safety?

Based on the showing from the three of you that doesn't sound too bad right now

 

[~ Gheb ~]

How many hours until deadline?

 

[Kantrip]

How many hours until deadline?

Enough.

Would. You. Lynch. Ryu?
Why. Is. JM. Scum?
Why. Am. I. Scum?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

How many hours until deadline?

By my count, 5.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Xonar & Ryu
Laundry & Potato

... are likely scumteams imo. Would lynch any of them toDay.

 

[Orboknown]

I can't vote laundry

Frankly, I don't trust you at all. I think ppl are giving you a pass because Ryker was sucking you off so hard, and then he died and flipped town.

....may i ask why?

@ ~ Gheb ~ vote ruy
@ #HBC | Joker vote ruy
@ #HBC | ZoZo vote ruy
@Maven89 vote ruy
@ Orboknown vote ruy

Want hammer if i can't get you.

 

[Kantrip]

Xonar & Ryu
Laundry & Potato

... are likely scumteams imo. Would lynch any of them toDay.

K great. JM off the table now cuz you can't fabricate reasons he is scum?

But good to see you're fine with going ruy. We have enough support for it lesgo?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Would. You. Lynch. Ryu?
Why. Is. JM. Scum?
Why. Am. I. Scum?

Read. The. ****ing. Game. Seriously.

I swear you ask the most worthless questions.

 

[Orboknown]

By my count, 5.

4 and a half, but yeah

 

[~ Gheb ~]

K great. JM off the table now cuz you can't fabricate reasons he is scum?

... I never said JM is scum.

 

[Kantrip]

Sorry, you've been saying he's a reasonable lynch for so long I almost thought that meant you thought he was scum

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I wish Ryker would've explained in more detail what it was about Xonar that made him suspicious. Honestly, Xonar borderline cockblocking the Ryu lynch is whack and Laundry being scummy is not a legitimate excuse for it. It makes no sense for anybody to be so dead-set on lynching one particular player in this scenario. It's not like there aren't PLENTY of lynchworthy slots around.

 

[Kantrip]

You really love to play with semantics don't you?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

And what's that? Paranoia that if we don't lynch laundry right now he will kill off you and gheb and weasel his way to safety?

Based on the showing from the three of you that doesn't sound too bad right now

The point was that Alex is plenty scummy based on reasons outlined before, and that yes, if it's not today, the he will probably not get lynched at all.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Laundry posting that he doesn't have any reads outside of Ruy or possibly me is a red flag for sure. There was a lot of communication between Maven and Ryker on day1 as well as Joey and Joker, and finding both of those TvT means you've found almost all scum already. That's bad, but what I really don't like is how he approaches the game knowing this.

I didn't read over the night and unlike most people I put the game out of my mind. When I entered thread, the game was no longer fresh in my head. I didn't really have strong reads at that point.

For one, at the end of day1 I said I wanted to talk to him/Ryker about Joker before the day ended, and then he ended it with a hammer. Realize now that an Alex, who only has a scum read on Ruy and a minor one on me, decides to lynch Gorf before he even tries to get more information. He then enters the next day, and I once again offer him to talk ("lmk if you're in thread again" is a pretty clear hint to that).

Who said I didn't scumread Gorf? I thought his jump onto Maven after Joker's and the way he sided against Joey was scummy and I wanted to lynch him for it. Ruy was my other choice. I had little against you but no reason to trust you.

Side note: his wording in 674 is extremely odd.
For one, it's weird that he even mentions Maven when discussion direction. However, what really weirds me out is that this is the guy who talked with Ryker yesterday and said "Yeah I see Maven town now, but he still did do some grimy things that exchange (with Ryker)". If I recall correctly, at that point he was the only one who even mentioned that there was a flipside to Maven's reaction, and now he doesn't understand?
Outside of that, the reasons for lynching Maven were posted by Joey end of yesterday after I asked about it... right around the same time Joey was talking about his reasons to lynch Gorf, and BEFORE he posted "not sure between Ruy or Gorf" (which indicates he should've read on it). Not a decisive argument, but something to keep in mind regardless. Is he trying to lynch people or finding things out?

it's weird the esl guy harps on wording the most.

If I said that I viewed Maven as scummy prior to reread, that was with outdated information. It was after his real outburst where he basically threw in the towel that cemented him as town for me.

To me, it also bothers me how reliant he was on Ryker to get information out there. He (almost?) never engaged in conversation with anyone else, on top of that a lot of his reads went Ryker's way. Ryker says XonarScum, Alex goes to XonarScum. Alex says ScumGheb, Ryker says TownGheb, Alex says TownGheb. Alex says ScumMaven... etc.

Because Ryker caught me in a whirlwind of questions. I have little of anything to latch onto otherwise. You wanna know what had happened in thread beforehand? Joey vs Joker with some Maven on the side and then Ryker vs Maven. That's a lot of non-factors. I made multiple mentions that I didn't like how Gheb came into the thread saying "we should lynch Laundry" and little else before I had reread and that I didn't like his early post of "early wagons are useless because scum will be on them". Outside of that, who else was active? That was before Potato made any sort of presence, before Gorf had finally broke his faked restriction, before you posted anything of actual content, before Chaco or JM made any sort of contribution at all. What do you want me to do, pull reads out of my ass and dig into nothing?

What you have is a matter of convenience and nothing else.

Finally, on his read on me, he complains about not knowing my hand but never made ANY effort to peek into it. I do remember offering to talk with people yesterday.

I didn't have time at the end of the day, we were scrambling for a lynch.

All in all, my issue with him is that his proclaimed intentions don't line up with his actions, as well as some minor other points.
To recap:

• Doesn't have any grasp on the player list despite at least 2 reads (one on his own and one with Ryker)
• Struggles with certain things (Where to go? Is Xonar Scum?) despite never making efforts to fix it
• Claims to not know "why maven" when Maven's been his main focus on day1
• Basically hasn't taken much, if any, initiative.

Fancy that you added more **** in.

I have a slight grasp but your claim of "no grasp" came right after the night had ended and I hadn't reread and the game went out of my mind after a longer night phase. I have little initiative because I haven't really had anything interesting happen. I don't have much motivation to play this game. That **** happens. When I said "why Maven", it's not because I didn't know, but because I don't understand why anyone can think that he's a valid lynch. I think the only way he's scum is through PoE. I don't think his play is individually scummy and I think everyone who is scumreading him is reaching to hell for it.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Sorry, you've been saying he's a reasonable lynch for so long I almost thought that meant you thought he was scum

Nah, but we sure need to do something about him if nothing happens. Scumy won't kill him. If we mislynch toDay then scum and town are equal in numbers. We can't afford such inactivity anymore and I don't wanna bank on him being inactive scum. If we wanna go for a last-resort option then we can't just say no to the option of a JM policy lynch on principle.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

I wish Ryker would've explained in more detail what it was about Xonar that made him suspicious. Honestly, Xonar borderline cockblocking the Ryu lynch is whack and Laundry being scummy is not a legitimate excuse for it. It makes no sense for anybody to be so dead-set on lynching one particular player in this scenario. It's not like there aren't PLENTY of lynchworthy slots around.

That's fine vote ruy please.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

You really love to play with semantics don't you?

Are you serious?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

@ ~ Gheb ~ @ Kantrip

shut up this isn't the time for you two to be dickfighting right now, who do you want to lynch

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

So are you motivated now to play the game, Alex?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

More motivated than I was earlier in the phase, probably will be here from here on out.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

if it's not today, the he will probably not get lynched at all.

... dude wtf are you talking about. Laundry got to L-2 toDay in no time with you and me being the only people to actually provide reasons. The last thing I'd be worried about in this game would be to find people that support his lynch.