Blackadder
Smash Master
It’s been well documented and noticed that many Smashers are taking a great dislike to Brawl’s music so far, often sighting that the music is “rushed” or “A bad corruption of what it was in *Insert home game here* or anything negative about it. What's up with this?
Light History of the music in Brawl
Way back when we got when got our first peek at Brawl (The 2006 E3 tralier) SmashBoards must have exploded. I imagine that threads galore splurt out over “BRAWL IS IN A TRLIER NOWZ!” and the new characters, items, the moves, the mysterious “Final Smashes” (Then dubbed “Super Smash” moves by fans) and anything else exiting the short video offered the community to talk about.
One of these things was, of course, the music. I dug around to see if the first trailer did have any impact on the music lovers for Brawl, and sure enough, I found an abundance of threads, both closed and open.
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=74649=Music
That is just one of the many music based threads that formed from the E3 video.
The response on that old thread, as well as many others, was almost always overwhelmingly positive, if at times a little to positive.
With the reviews from the community being MAINLY positive, I imagine much of the thoughts by the professional people in the game industry was to, so Sakurai set out to make the games music typical of that “Main Theme” style;
Dramatic and powerful.
Now, with the creation of Brawl spreading out the gaming community, it brought with it a huge influx of new guys to the scene. I can tell you now, I was no different. I came into the scene sometime during the early days of the updates, I think. The updates of course met more music for us future Brawlers. But as the updates continued, and more of the music was shown, I noticed reaction to the new tunes began to decline. The “Menu 1” melody was wonderful, but I did hear of some people saying it was a little TOO dramatic. But at the time that seemed to be the minority view. Soon after we got the Yoshi music and the Ridley Battle Theme. The two songs, mainly the latter, hinted at characters, and once again caused interest and fire to the Smash lovers of SWF. The music buffs, however, where showing increased signs of worry over the tunes. The Ridley Theme, in particular, was once quoted to sound “Darn cheesy”. And once again, a little to epic, leading it onto an area of what some gamers dubbed “Try hard”.
These days a lot of the reaction to the music is very mixed. Songs such as K.K Rider just have to be enjoyed, while others like “Space Armada” sound like something ripped of from a now deaf John Williams. Another common complaint I hear today is that the music simply is the kind of tune you would battle to. I mean, can you really picture a speedy Luigi onto Fox fight with the new Poke’mon tune playing in the background? All this eventually lead many Smashers to think the music was for some reason being rushed and cheaply done.
Why is this?
Common quick theories
A lot of the SWF members have come up with theories as to why the quality of the music is often “Cheesy” or “Try hard dramatic” or “Rushed”.
An interesting one revolves around the use of all the musicians Sakurai has hired to do music for Brawl. When first unveiled this implied a great lot of tunes for us then and there. However, with some of the Smashers disliking the music, some people have actually assumed that they are getting say, Yusuke Takahama (Who does the music for the “Digital Pinball Series”) to do music for, say Metriod. If this is correct, as some have held it to be, then that could have a hand the music sometimes sounding unprofessional and clumsy. It’s done by someone who isn’t used to this style of work. I generally discard this theory, as these guys are professional, so it really shouldn’t affect the music that much. Another theory is that it just doesn’t have the same heart as the music would if it where orchestrated, sighting that all of this stuff would sound better if it was done in real as the “Main Theme” is alleged to have been done in. One of the theories I often embrace as a likely truth is that these are just samples. Maybe not even complete, or sometimes even just a melody the guys are toying around with a bit. It’s like watching a baby play with their food, we are just getting the test stuff.
Another theory is that the music haters are just whining over nothing, and the music is fine. XD
My Music
And this is where the title to the thread comes in. What if the reason the music sounds bad at times is simply because if this feature. While I myself am highly pleased with it as a real feature, many people have said this is the answer to the music things. The Brawl team is going for quantity over quality. If it’s a Nintendo song, listen to it, remix it to sound epic and star-wars-ey, and pop it in the feature. Repeat as much as you possibly can, aiming for at least 100 or so songs. If this is truth, then it would imply that the songs really are rushed, and Sakurai and his team are just trying to turn this feature into a gimmick for the game. This is supported by the showing that there will be several songs for each stage, hinting to some that the music is being rushed to an extent.
Myself, I admit I think the music is often hard to get in to, and almost has no heart being so fake, but I see my music as a way to improve the tunes. Even if they do produce songs like the Japanese do babies, surely some of the true classics will be worth a listen to? Even if they quickly storm up the old Mario Theme, we will all love it. Also, if we don’t like songs, we can just turn them off.
All in all, I think Melee’s music is so far superior. But remember, we may be only hearing test music, we haven’t heard all of it yet, and My Music allows one to turn off the bad stuff. I think all up, the music will be pretty good.
What do ya’ll think of all this?
Discuss.
Ps: Sorry for the stupidly long thread.
*Cough* A mod will be here to close this soon, I'm sure of it.
Light History of the music in Brawl
Way back when we got when got our first peek at Brawl (The 2006 E3 tralier) SmashBoards must have exploded. I imagine that threads galore splurt out over “BRAWL IS IN A TRLIER NOWZ!” and the new characters, items, the moves, the mysterious “Final Smashes” (Then dubbed “Super Smash” moves by fans) and anything else exiting the short video offered the community to talk about.
One of these things was, of course, the music. I dug around to see if the first trailer did have any impact on the music lovers for Brawl, and sure enough, I found an abundance of threads, both closed and open.
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=74649=Music
That is just one of the many music based threads that formed from the E3 video.
The response on that old thread, as well as many others, was almost always overwhelmingly positive, if at times a little to positive.
That quote there reflected the general thoughts of most Smashers, music lovers or otherwise. The tune was catchy, epic, and hinted early on that Brawl was going to be more dramatic and “zomg!” like. This quote here interests me:
That’s a common thought now days, but he seemed to have been a bit suss of the music from day one!
With the reviews from the community being MAINLY positive, I imagine much of the thoughts by the professional people in the game industry was to, so Sakurai set out to make the games music typical of that “Main Theme” style;
Dramatic and powerful.
Now, with the creation of Brawl spreading out the gaming community, it brought with it a huge influx of new guys to the scene. I can tell you now, I was no different. I came into the scene sometime during the early days of the updates, I think. The updates of course met more music for us future Brawlers. But as the updates continued, and more of the music was shown, I noticed reaction to the new tunes began to decline. The “Menu 1” melody was wonderful, but I did hear of some people saying it was a little TOO dramatic. But at the time that seemed to be the minority view. Soon after we got the Yoshi music and the Ridley Battle Theme. The two songs, mainly the latter, hinted at characters, and once again caused interest and fire to the Smash lovers of SWF. The music buffs, however, where showing increased signs of worry over the tunes. The Ridley Theme, in particular, was once quoted to sound “Darn cheesy”. And once again, a little to epic, leading it onto an area of what some gamers dubbed “Try hard”.
These days a lot of the reaction to the music is very mixed. Songs such as K.K Rider just have to be enjoyed, while others like “Space Armada” sound like something ripped of from a now deaf John Williams. Another common complaint I hear today is that the music simply is the kind of tune you would battle to. I mean, can you really picture a speedy Luigi onto Fox fight with the new Poke’mon tune playing in the background? All this eventually lead many Smashers to think the music was for some reason being rushed and cheaply done.
Why is this?
Common quick theories
A lot of the SWF members have come up with theories as to why the quality of the music is often “Cheesy” or “Try hard dramatic” or “Rushed”.
An interesting one revolves around the use of all the musicians Sakurai has hired to do music for Brawl. When first unveiled this implied a great lot of tunes for us then and there. However, with some of the Smashers disliking the music, some people have actually assumed that they are getting say, Yusuke Takahama (Who does the music for the “Digital Pinball Series”) to do music for, say Metriod. If this is correct, as some have held it to be, then that could have a hand the music sometimes sounding unprofessional and clumsy. It’s done by someone who isn’t used to this style of work. I generally discard this theory, as these guys are professional, so it really shouldn’t affect the music that much. Another theory is that it just doesn’t have the same heart as the music would if it where orchestrated, sighting that all of this stuff would sound better if it was done in real as the “Main Theme” is alleged to have been done in. One of the theories I often embrace as a likely truth is that these are just samples. Maybe not even complete, or sometimes even just a melody the guys are toying around with a bit. It’s like watching a baby play with their food, we are just getting the test stuff.
Another theory is that the music haters are just whining over nothing, and the music is fine. XD
My Music
And this is where the title to the thread comes in. What if the reason the music sounds bad at times is simply because if this feature. While I myself am highly pleased with it as a real feature, many people have said this is the answer to the music things. The Brawl team is going for quantity over quality. If it’s a Nintendo song, listen to it, remix it to sound epic and star-wars-ey, and pop it in the feature. Repeat as much as you possibly can, aiming for at least 100 or so songs. If this is truth, then it would imply that the songs really are rushed, and Sakurai and his team are just trying to turn this feature into a gimmick for the game. This is supported by the showing that there will be several songs for each stage, hinting to some that the music is being rushed to an extent.
Myself, I admit I think the music is often hard to get in to, and almost has no heart being so fake, but I see my music as a way to improve the tunes. Even if they do produce songs like the Japanese do babies, surely some of the true classics will be worth a listen to? Even if they quickly storm up the old Mario Theme, we will all love it. Also, if we don’t like songs, we can just turn them off.
All in all, I think Melee’s music is so far superior. But remember, we may be only hearing test music, we haven’t heard all of it yet, and My Music allows one to turn off the bad stuff. I think all up, the music will be pretty good.
What do ya’ll think of all this?
Discuss.
Ps: Sorry for the stupidly long thread.
*Cough* A mod will be here to close this soon, I'm sure of it.
