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[Night-san]

Link (Normal type) @ Life Orb
Jolly / Sturdy (boots)
252 Atk/ 252 Spe/ 4 HP
Swords Dance
Close Combat
Milk Drink
Aerial Ace

Base Stats-
80 HP
120 Attack
90 Defense
100 Sp. Attack
80 Sp. Defense
100 Speed

This is coming from someone who's not able to remember exactly how Link normally plays. x.x

 

[NJzFinest]

lmao, that's pretty good for Link

Ok, I'm thinking about brainstorming some ideas for base stats, that should be taken care of first. Also, to make the choice of characters as large as possible, I think we should include every version of smash. So like, Smash64 Mario, Melee Mario, and Brawl Mario will all be different characters with different base stats, moves, abilities, etc.

Should it be like.. everything is balanced enough to fit into one tier? Or... should we have Ubers and gimmicks lol

 

[Fuelbi]

I had a Kirby moveset planned when I realized, I can't come up with the base and IV stats myself and the only reason why I can manage them on my team is because of Smogon >_<

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Link's ability should change with whatever items he holds.

Clawshots could act like a Swift Swim/Chlorophyll, etc.

-Terywj

 

[Zook]

Hey, you think it's possible to like... make our own smashbros server using smashbros characters in our teams and stuff? I think we can get it to work once we agree on set movesets/stats.

Bahaha, that would be awesome!

Link's ability should change with whatever items he holds.

Clawshots could act like a Swift Swim/Chlorophyll, etc.

-Terywj

Magic Armor ---> Magic Guard.

Oh yeah.

 

[Metal~Mario]

^this.

Samus

Electric or Steel
Battle Armor

HP:95
At:70
Def:95
SpA:110
SpDef:70
Spd:65

Double-Edge
Flamethrower
Charge Beam
Transform!!!!

This thread is full of fun.

 

[MetallicMario]

Bowser : Fire/Dragon.

Flamethrower
Dragon Claw
Body Slam
Roar.

Just threw in some random moves that suit him.

Attack at lvl 1: 15
Defense at lvl 1: 10
Sp Atk at lvl 1: 12
Sp Def. at lvl 1: 6
Speed at lvl 1: 2

 

[Fuelbi]

MM why not make Samus both Electric AND Steel?

 

[Metal~Mario]

And get owned by EQ?

I'd rather not.

Give me a little bit o' time for ZSS.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Samus should have a ridiculous movepool. Literally. Ice Beam, Charge Beam, Energy Ball, Shadow Ball, Aura Sphere, Flash Cannon, Flamethrower, Pin Missile, Seed Bomb, Rollout, Rockslide, Dragon Pulse, Double-Edge, Quick Attack, are just some possibilities.

-Terywj

 

[Metal~Mario]

Samus should have a ridiculous movepool. Literally. Ice Beam, Charge Beam, Energy Ball, Shadow Ball, Aura Sphere, Flash Cannon, Flamethrower, Pin Missile, Seed Bomb, Rollout, Rockslide, Dragon Pulse, Double-Edge, Quick Attack, are just some possibilities.

-Terywj

What?

I'm allowed to use moves not used by Brawl/Melee Samus, but used by Samus in her games?

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Well isn't the whole point of this to make Smash Bros. characters Pokemon that could be used on a server? Each character would have to have a movepool then...

-Terywj

 

[Metal~Mario]

Oh, alright.
I originally had Ice Beam but remembered she doesn't have it on Brawl/Melee.....

lulzy manufactured move:

Super Missile:
Steel/Special
100pwr
50acc

Always scores a critical hit.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

I don't think we'll be making up moves for these guys.

Mario
Type: Normal / Fighting
Ability: Simple
Base Stats: 90 / 80 / 80 / 80 / 80 / 70

Movepool includes: Stomp, Hi Jump Kick, Sky Uppercut, Reflect, Light Screen, Flamethrower, Hydro Pump, Reflect, Bounce, Quick Attack, Mega Punch, Mega Kick, Return, Close Combat, Mach Punch

I'm taking suggestions for his ability...

-Terywj

 

[Metal~Mario]

Simple.

Heck yes!

 

[Cease Tick]

Add bulk up.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Simple.

Heck yes!

Add bulk up.

Very viable ability / move to add, but I'd have to nerf his stats then.

-Terywj

 

[Metal~Mario]

ZSS

Electric
Limber

HP:65
At:80
Def:40
SpA:80
SpDef:65
Spd:110

Power Whip
Charge Beam
Transform
uhhh....idk

 

[Terywj [태리]]

I think Zero Suit's base stats should look more-or-less like this:

70 / 75 / 60 / 110 / 65 / 125

She's frail, but has a strong special attack (still less than Samus') and much more speed.

Her movepool could include - Wrap, Bind, Constrict, Zap Cannon, Thunder Wave, Shock Wave, Charge Beam, Power Whip, Thunderbolt, Double Kick, Triple Kick, Poison Jab, Bounce

-Terywj

 

[Metal~Mario]

ZSS depends on stealth to get around and is armed with an emergency pistol that can't kill.

In Zero Mission, at least.

Therefore, she has to suck, IMO. She's the Spinda of this thread.

She's not that high on the tier list or has many favorable matchups.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Yeah, but she still has great speed.

So should Mario get Simple and nerfed stats?

-Terywj

 

[Metal~Mario]

Sure.

10simplemarios

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Alright. Next up, Link.

Link
Type: Psychic / Fighting
Ability: Sturdy / Battle Armour
Base Stats: 105 / 110 / 120 / 95 / 80 / 75

Movepool includes - Swords Dance, Poison Jab, Close Combat, Bulk Up, Agility, Slash, Air Slash, Leaf Blade, Psycho Cut, Night Slash, Sky Uppercut, Psybeam, Thunderbolt, Flamethrower, Taunt, Pursuit, Reflect, Light Screen, Milk Drink, False Swipe, Block

-Terywj

 

[Night-san]

Alright. Next up, Link.

Link
Type: Psychic / Fighting
Ability: Sturdy / Battle Armour
Base Stats: 105 / 110 / 120 / 95 / 80 / 75

Movepool includes - Swords Dance, Poison Jab, Close Combat, Bulk Up, Agility, Slash, Air Slash, Leaf Blade, Psycho Cut, Night Slash, Sky Uppercut, Psybeam, Thunderbolt, Flamethrower, Taunt, Pursuit, Reflect, Light Screen

-Terywj

Much better than mine. xD

But no love for the LonLon milk? D:

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Ahh yes, I forgot about Milk Drink. I'll add that in.

-Terywj

 

[NJzFinest]

Why isn't Mario Fire/Fighting? Or maybe Fire/Normal? :o

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Why isn't Mario Fire/Fighting? Or maybe Fire/Normal? :o

Because Mario needs a Fire Flower in order to shoot fire.

-Terywj

 

[NJzFinest]

True, eh, but he doesn't in Smash

Maybe a Fire Flower can be an item for Mario and Luigi that like... boosts there special attack or something?

 

[UberMario]

Because Mario needs a Fire Flower in order to shoot fire.

-Terywj

Not entirely true, he was able to produce fire without it in the Mario & Luigi series and in Mario Kart: Double Dash.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

True, eh, but he doesn't in Smash

Maybe a Fire Flower can be an item for Mario and Luigi that like... boosts there special attack or something?

Maybe a 50% boost to their Fire-type and Fighting-type attacks?

-Terywj

 

[Riddle]

Go 20% a la Lustrous Orb/Griseous Orb/Adamant Orb.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Go 20% a la Lustrous Orb/Griseous Orb/Adamant Orb.

Okay.

Mario 90 / 80 / 80 / 80 / 80 / 70
Luigi 100 / 75 / 80 / 75 / 80 / 70

-Terywj

 

[UltiMario]

As a note, in the M&L RPG games, Luigi took hits like a god while Mario was dealing like at least 1.5x as much as Luigi, but was much more frail.

 

[CRASHiC]

No no no no no no no. Luigi is a glass canon-esq charecter in Smash Tery. He should have lower HP and higher attack and speed than Mario.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

I'm moreso combing their roles in their respective games and ins Super Smash Bros. so I don't really know how to work an in-between.

-Terywj

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Ganondorf
Type: Dark / Fighting
Ability: Sturdy [Suggestions]
Base Stats: 120 / 135 / 115 / 95 / 60 / 30

Movepool - Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Thunderpunch, Sucker Punch, Psycho Cut, Blaze Kick, Sky Uppercut, Close Combat, Focus Punch, Shadow Punch, Night Shade, Seismic Toss, Double Kick, Headbutt, Slash, Psychic, Dark Pulse, Aura Sphere, Focus Blast, Bulk Up, Taunt, Pursuit, Mean Look

-Terywj

 

[Metal~Mario]

Pure Power/Slow Start.

Yeah, I went thar.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Pure Power/Slow Start.

Yeah, I went thar.

I'd rather not.

Slow Start is much more reasonable.

-Terywj

 

[Metal~Mario]

Ganon is a stronger, physically defensive Snorlax with better STABs.

Cool.

He should learn Head Smash because of his Final Smash.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Ehh, possibly.

Bowser
Type: Fire
Ability: Intimidate / Shell Armour
Base Stats: 124 / 126 / 110 / 102 / 68 / 25

Movepool includes - Flamethrower, Fire Blast, Overheat, Fire Punch, Thunderpunch, Heat Wave, Fire Fang, Thunder Fang, Rapid Spin, Roar, Dragonbreath, Dragon Pulse, Outrage, Dragon Claw, Dragon Rush, Slash, Bounce, Earthquake, Rockslide, Iron Tail, Taunt, Crunch

-Terywj