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Are most people playing with friends where they could force a switch, or just hopping online and playing whatever names are there? I'd guess the latter but I don't know for sure.
try it before you knock it in conjunction with the other changes. The thing is the hitstun is reduced so the increased speed doesn't become so stupid that literally no combo can be escaped.
Fair point. I still think there are enough people who have realized how bad it is to be using pj64k, that they really could have migrated to a better emulator by now if they really wanted to.
https://github.com/project64/project64/commit/19a6beab80a45830045a0f918f13af9e92218e3d
. Although it's better to just port kaillera to latest version of PJ64, since there have been a lot of improvements. By using an older version of 2.2, you really miss out. Anyway, if BSOD and framerate are the only thing stopping current 2.2k from being pushed, then I suggest quikcly patching out the BSOD issue and change the rdb setting to disable sync audio. So then you can temporarily use that, until after Project64 has become more stable. Then someone can port kaillera to the newer version.
RPGgrenade
if you need more help with patching, let me know. I know I didn't go into great detail in my previous post. I can try looking for previous posts to refer you to, as well as adding additional advice.
I would VERY much appreciate the help. But at the moment with university as a software engineering student my time is limited when it comes to software management and stuff. So sadly it'd be quite some time before I can look into it more thoroughly >.<Fair point. I still think there are enough people who have realized how bad it is to be using pj64k, that they really could have migrated to a better emulator by now if they really wanted to.
https://github.com/project64/project64/commit/19a6beab80a45830045a0f918f13af9e92218e3d
As you can see, it's a simple change
Btw
local and online 58-60 fps is what makes me not emu force 2.2, though no cheats would be a factor
What are you saying? That PJ64 2.2 fluctuates between 58-60fps? So does PJ64k all the time, but there's a fix to that in PJ64 2.2 (see below).
Each time a forcible emulator switch gets brought up, I hear different excuses. It seems as if you don't WANT to do it, but you could really do some good for the online community by forcing a specific emulator (even if it's just for a month or something, until people make it the standard), as it's clear the community won't switch on their own. I see no downsides in doing this, and only positives. People above 7 OS can finally play 60fps without visual frame skips, full screen will be accessible, you can keep your precious GS codes.. I just see absolutely no reason to NOT go forward with this. Sure, the UI isn't completely stable, but PJ64k crashes so much that people have gone out of their way to make reboot exe/bat files just to close and reopen it for christ sake. We're used to it already.
I'm very busy myself as well. For hex editing, you just have to do a hex search to find what you are looking for. All you do is look at the in game memory, and then hex search those numbers in hex editor. For instance, if you want to patch the hitbox display code, you can just open up nemu64, load a match in SSB, then look at the address of the gameshrark code in the memory viewer then hex search the data you see. Be careful because you sometimes how to narrow it down by searching a big sequence of data, sometimes 32 or 64 or even more bytes worth of data. Generally, I search by multiples of 4 bytes for the length of the hex bytes string to search.
The best option is to make small changes to 2.2k and then use that until upstream Project64 has fixed the UI instability. All you need to do is port over the BSOD fix which is just 1 line of code, and disabling sync audio.
Interesting. I'll have to look into it. Do you have any suggestions on the version of nemu64 to use? Because so far attempting to download it have caused instant crashes on startup. Not sure if that's just my computer disliking it for being in windows 10 or if I may have been downloading an improper version of it. And I'll do my best. I'm not sure I understand the concepts yet, though.
You've played brawl right?
I don't care. I will never change my viewpoint.
In that case I should give you some proper means to help you not run into the same issues I have. the biggest of these being that sometimes you can't start the game properly unless you do a soft reset after putting in the codes on startup. You basically wait for the opening cinematic to freeze, then soft reset, and you should be able to start no problem after putting all this in. But that may be subejct to different criteria. So no problems there.
Ah, so you're closed minded on the subject, then. Good to know. You probably shouldn't bother yourself checking back on this topic from now on as it might just enrage you.
if you ever get a working rom patcher like the 19xx mod, im more than happy to check it out.
right. No clue how to patch a rom yet, but I'll see what I can do with what I got.
Patching a rom is not hard at all. All you need is the original rom and the modified rom. Then use xdelta to get the differences in files and you'll have a patch
ooooh, is it really that simple? Well then I look forward to patching it up when I get a chance haha. Also I'm updating the original post a bit with a few new ideas I've had.
You need to actually modify rom values though, I don't think gameshark codes will cut it.
I'm aware, which is why I was asking Madao about hex editing. What I have issue with is using Nemu 64 in all honesty, it's really my only downfall here.
I won't copy them here, but I can at least state that what I edited was Ness, Mario and Luigi's sections. Falcon's was edited mildly. And Increased DI has been removed at least in principle.
This utilizes gameshark codes, and there are some issues with it in general, sadly. If Everdrive 64 can implement Gameshark codes, then yes. If not, then no. I-m working on a ROM hack in order to let you just make a modded ROM
The everdrive has imperfect gameshark capablities, I have one but I lent it to a friend but I'll give the codes a try when I get it back. The ROM hack would be wholly self contained? as in you only need one program, an emulator, to play it?
well usually ROM hacks have a special program so you can modify your OWN ROM file yourself. TECHNICALLY you can distribute the hacked ROM, but that's... not exactly legal to say you're doing it.
"He's not low tier", except he's second to last, almost exclusively because his recovery is absolute garbage and the only reason people do decently with him is because they don't get hit, which is not a deciding factor into who is high on the their list or not.
I won't argue that you have to learn how to play a way where u wont get hit, against a good player on some characters getting hit once could possibly mean you unavoidably getting comboed till u die.
Why? You can't balance a game by making everybody extra powerful, then everybody just ends up broken. This is the exact problem Melee SD remix and Project M have.
Problem?
What?
You said everyone being broken was a problem. I don't feel it is. It's also why I like Soul Calibur.
If everybody is too powerful, the game becomes shallow. A global lack of weaknesses coupled with an overwhelming amount of strengths to the point where everybody has a touch of death combo. It's lazy.
Spurdo
I can't speak for melee sd but thats a very inaccurate statement for pm as the high tiers were nerfed and the low tiers buffed. Its also regarded as the most balanced smash game so i'm completely lost.
PM turned half the cast in to Marvel vs. Capcom characters, they all have a ridiculous amount of options for every single situation. It is not how a Smash game should be balanced. It's not just that these mods negate the weaknesses holding back the characters, it's that they also give them a ton of unnecessary buffs just so they can avoid the elephant in the room of having to nerf the top tier characters down to a more reasonable level.
I also don't see why in theory buffing the obvious weaknesses of the lower tier characters is a bad thing or how it could be seen as everyone being too powerful if its done properly. It's a much better idea imo than the other extreme of nerfing down the top characters. It is a bit ironic I find to not have balance in an approach to balance the game though.
I'm ok with the idea of nerfing a few things at most, and at the moment I'm trying to come up with decent nerfs without changing the characters too much (Kirby utilt anyone?). As for you comments on PM, I don't understand at all what you mean. You say it shouldn't be balanced that way because YOU don't like it that way, and state it as if it were fact. So considering it is the most balanced of the series, still with imbalances allowed as many character have disadvantages over other characters by exploiting their weaknesses. They're simply not as glaring now. And they did nerf Fox and Falco on several small things, but going the Magic Scrumpy route just turns players away. Besides, the whole point of not nerfing the big top tiers is because when you have so many characters with tools that can contest with them, nerfing them becomes a moot and unnecessary thing to do. If you want to argue this, argue it with the PMDT or Ripple (the guy making the newest SDR which I'm testing the early stages of), because it's going to be hard to convince me that you actually know the game at all if you think every character has an insane amount of options. (I'm primarily a PM player, if it wasn't obvious)
Just because I'm curious. But have you played any of the others competitively? What do you define by balance? Because Link's horrid recovery seems like a terrible example to use. Pikachu's up-B alone travels 4 times the distance Link's entire double jump+up-B do, in a game where falling off the stage is what makes you lose. To me this doesn't seem balanced coupled with his less than desirable disjoint, slow ground mobility and only decent frame data.
oops I missed this one. The problem here is what you're describing isn't necessarily wrong, it just doesn't determine tier placings. It takes more skill to use Link than Kirby, for sure. But the fact that Kirby somehow manages to outrange Link's sword and most characters can just avoid or hit back his projectiles, as well as having a recovery that's not only predictable but extremely terrible, makes him exactly what I said, a bad character. I've mained Link in all the smash games, and it's no exception that he sucks in 64 because his recovery is absolutely terrible. The few other changes I'd like to add would simply allow for a bit more "equality" so that your skills actually reflect well. Because you have to be like 5 times more skilled than a Kirby opponent in order to beat him as Link, and that carries through a large amount of the cast. Which implies that your skill isn't being reflected well in your character. The idea of this project being your skill will make it a matter of matchup knowledge and skill, rather than the character flat out losing.
the problem with making most of the cast excessively powerful is that it makes the game incredibly rewarding for a disproportionately small output of skill, and in Project M's case it becomes more of a game about having your character's pointless new gimmick carry you, easily combo-ing everyone in to anything from everything while you zip around firing projectiles. The approach it takes by negating character's weaknesses and then giving them a superfluous amount of additional buffs on top of new gimmicks, while yeah making it "balanced" I suppose, ultimately turns it in to a shallower and easier game.
Yeah everyone calls everything a gimmick, without giving an explanation as to what that is, why it's bad or what the gimmicks actually are and how they aren't in the other games.