Super Smash Bros. for Wii U / 3DS Info Thread - Risen from the dead by the psychic power of DLC

[TJ-Works]

Miiverse post today, totally trolling all the MK fans. I do think however that this just leans more in favor that he'sback. Considering there's a Samus costume in the same picture, and that Samus is confirmed, this just leans in favor of MK, and I'll be happy to see him back, though he will be nerfed. Tomorrow's the day we may get the final roster. Any more ideas on that?

Oh ****, I forgot about the Smash segment on Corocoro. Does anyone know what time it will air?

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Ok mii costumes can be the playable characters.

And not quite yet but meta knight confirmed (just practically right now.)

 

[Moon Monkey]

Ya. Has this been confirmed and/or debunked?

idk but i've been seeing a lot of rumors of dates during the week of the 25th
http://wiiudaily.com/2014/08/super-smash-bros-u-release-date/

 

[aldelaro5]

I don't know about you, but the potd might means that he's reaching the last teases he need to do.

This one was so obvious that it could even hint at a reveal soon. For me, it might suggest a direct this week.

Just a weird theory I had that isn't funded, but I want a direct so badly this week because I'm moving this Saturday for at least a year which might means less time to speculate (I hope it's at least before my college class start).

 

[ROBnWatch]

I think we'd know sooner if there is a direct this week, but, ya know, with the troll today...

Hey, maybe we got the rest of the roster before you leave! Who knows? We'll just have to wait and see.

 

[Lautsuu~]

Hey, hey...

At this point in time...

Anything can happen.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

I think we'd know sooner if there is a direct this week, but, ya know, with the troll today...

Hey, maybe we got the rest of the roster before you leave! Who knows? We'll just have to wait and see.

You might be giving nintendo a black eye for this but

I think the next direct might be another hyrule warriors direct.

Source
http://wiiudaily.com/2014/08/another-hyrule-warriors-stream-planned-this-thursday/

It ticks me off why do we need another direct of this when smash bros is a higher tier rank than this game.

 

[ROBnWatch]

You might be giving nintendo a black eye for this but

I think the next direct might be another hyrule warriors direct.

Source
http://wiiudaily.com/2014/08/another-hyrule-warriors-stream-planned-this-thursday/

It ticks me off why do we need another direct of this when smash bros is a higher tier rank than this game.

True that. The anticipation for Smash is practically 100x that of Hyrule Warriors. Also, when the CoroCoro "leak" ("leak" because it may not be true) pops up, can somebody please post a link to it? I will have no other way to get to it except in this way. Thanks!
P.S. To whom it may concern, please do not ruin whether or not this leak is fake or real if you post the link, thanks again.

 

[Zwzchow]

True that. The anticipation for Smash is practically 100x that of Hyrule Warriors. Also, when the CoroCoro "leak" ("leak" because it may not be true) pops up, can somebody please post a link to it? I will have no other way to get to it except in this way. Thanks!
P.S. To whom it may concern, please do not ruin whether or not this leak is fake or real if you post the link, thanks again.

http://imgur.com/a/2j1No

Spoiler

Nothing new at all -_-
Btw CoroCoro is usually real (eg. Pokemon news)

 

[DraginHikari]

You might be giving nintendo a black eye for this but

I think the next direct might be another hyrule warriors direct.

Source
http://wiiudaily.com/2014/08/another-hyrule-warriors-stream-planned-this-thursday/

It ticks me off why do we need another direct of this when smash bros is a higher tier rank than this game.

Smash Brothers doesn't particularly need the extra advertising. At this point as Hyrule Warriors coming out first and is a different take on the Zelda series they probably want to push it as much as physically possible.

And to be real the only we are demanding a direct at this point is because we want more character information, not because someone has to convince us to buy the game.

 

[ROBnWatch]

http://imgur.com/a/2j1No

Spoiler

Nothing new at all -_-
Btw CoroCoro is usually real (eg. Pokemon news)

Very disappointing...I know who not to trust once SSB5 gets announced...hopefully we get the rest of the cast soon though...
-__-

 

[tippy]

You might be giving nintendo a black eye for this but

I think the next direct might be another hyrule warriors direct.

Source
http://wiiudaily.com/2014/08/another-hyrule-warriors-stream-planned-this-thursday/

It ticks me off why do we need another direct of this when smash bros is a higher tier rank than this game.

That's not an actual direct though, I think. I remember there was a stream just like that around a week before the Hyrule Warriors direct.

 

[SmashShadow]

Meta Knight is confirmed.
Shuttle loop doesn't glide and now hits twice.
Giant battles confirmed.
Kid Icarus style difficulty setting.

 

[ProjectAngel]

MK's reveal also confirms the Pokemon Axew will appear- either as a Pokeball Pokemon or one of the Kalos Pokemon League's stage elements.

 

[aldelaro5]

MK's reveal also confirms the Pokemon Axew will appear- either as a Pokeball Pokemon or one of the Kalos Pokemon League's stage elements.

I just understood now.

You see Axew, Garchomp on the very left of the same screeshot and hydrageon or something (don't remember the exact name).

Since the window is purple, it's the draconic chamber or, the dragon elite 4 room.

Due to their disposition and the circumstances, they wouldn't be pokeballs, but either background or hazard.

Here's the pic for refference:

Can't wait for this stage now.

EDIT: and Drogonite behind Kirby.

 

[Frostwraith]

OP updated with daily pic info.

Will update with Famitsu stuff later.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

I know meta knights side special is the same.

And im not sure what picture but dimestional cape is back too.

 

[Groose]

Swimming confirmed to return; was it just absent in earlier builds?

Source: This was first reported by Totes-My-Boats over at GameFAQs. I'm just spreading the word.

 

[Frostwraith]

Swimming confirmed to return; was it just absent in earlier builds?

Source: This was first reported by Totes-My-Boats over at GameFAQs. I'm just spreading the word.

Well, I just found out that I already had that info in the OP:

- Swimming is ambiguously back as the results screen indicates its presence, however characters pass through the water on the Tortimer's Island stage.

Perhaps, the passing through water thing is due to being a demo and the mechanic hadn't been implemented yet.

 

[RamOne]

Or it could be depending on the stage. Hanenbow has fall-through water.

 

[ROBnWatch]

Swimming is back, which is nice to see. Also, nice catch, Groose.

 

[Zwzchow]

Here's the thing:
I don't think there are any stages that have water except for say Tortimer Island, Jungle Japes and Balloon Fight (all 3DS stages)
Unless of course more stages are introduced

 

[ROBnWatch]

Probably going to have more than that. It said "swim time" on the Wii U version, and all those stages are on 3DS version...I think we're about due for a stage with water for the Wii U version.

 

[ProjectAngel]

Some changes to MK you might want to put up:

- MK has lost the ability to glide.
- Shuttle Loop no longer goes into a glide, but instead attacks the opponent twice while MK loops.

 

[Zwzchow]

Snake deconfirmed?
http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/2dw59z/back_of_the_japanese_3ds_box_revealed_with_new/

 

[Frostwraith]

Snake deconfirmed?
http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/2dw59z/back_of_the_japanese_3ds_box_revealed_with_new/

It only has the copyrights for the content in the box.

Melee didn't have INTELLIGENT SYSTEMS on the copyright listing, even though Marth and Roy were in the game.

In other words, it is still too early to draw a conclusion.

 

[ROBnWatch]

Ya. Too early. Even though I think Snake is gone, we are dealing with Sakurai here...not to mention Kojima is also a troll...Snake still has a chance to return.

 

[ProjectAngel]

Sakurai's not one to leak info he hasn't revealed yet. Keep in mind hat we still have stuff to be revealed before the Japanese release.

 

[ROBnWatch]

Sakurai's not one to leak info he hasn't revealed yet. Keep in mind hat we still have stuff to be revealed before the Japanese release.

Too true. Hopefully we can get a Smash Bros. Direct soon. If so, I'd ike it to reveal the remaining cast of characters, the suspense of my favorite characters not getting in and/or the wait for them to be announced, is KILLING ME! I'm DYING...help...me...

X__X

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Some changes to MK you might want to put up:

- MK has lost the ability to glide.

Can you cite this one? Because we only have on record that Pit's regular gliding is gone, no one else's.

We only know his Shuttle Loop glide doesn't work anymore(via PotD). Where'd the "regular" glide being gone come from? That's a huge change that we need gameplay videos to prove. Or an actual cited text by Sakurai(which is lacking as far as many know).

 

[CrossoverMan]

Nightmare King confirmed as an assist trophy, and Zero Suit Samus has a new (and hot) alternate costume.

 

[ProjectAngel]

Can you cite this one? Because we only have on record that Pit's regular gliding is gone, no one else's.

We only know his Shuttle Loop glide doesn't work anymore(via PotD). Where'd the "regular" glide being gone come from? That's a huge change that we need gameplay videos to prove. Or an actual cited text by Sakurai(which is lacking as far as many know).

It was a major assumption coming from Shuttle Loop's changes. Since Meta Knight cannot go into a glide from the move anymore, it's a safe assumption that he, like Pit, has lost the ability to glide, denying him one of his many recovery methods.

Another note from today's PotD: Brinstar from Melee is confirmed to return, at least on the 3DS version.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

It was a major assumption coming from Shuttle Loop's changes. Since Meta Knight cannot go into a glide from the move anymore, it's a safe assumption that he, like Pit, has lost the ability to glide, denying him one of his many recovery methods.

So it's not confirmed. We don't go with safe assumptions, we go with facts on here only. It's a very important rule here. Same reason we didn't update Luigi's Final Smash till we had cold hard proof, not just a fair assumption from the PotD about it. He didn't actually say it, so we waited for gameplay. He confirmed himself it was a "a move", but that was it. Then a video came up, and voila, we could add it to places. However, unlike that particular move(which was heavily implied by the Pic of the Day itself, like a darkened screen and Luigi glowing, we have zero implications that MK cannot glide anymore).

@ Frostwraith : As noted, we don't know if MK lost the overall ability to Glide, just solely his Shuttle Loop no longer has it and nothing more. As said, no "safe" assumptions are useful. Just like we can't assume anybody other than Pit cannot glide. Wait and see, and all.

 

[Frostwraith]

@ Frostwraith : As noted, we don't know if MK lost the overall ability to Glide, just solely his Shuttle Loop no longer has it and nothing more. As said, no "safe" assumptions are useful. Just like we can't assume anybody other than Pit cannot glide. Wait and see, and all.

Exactly as I state in the OP.

Although, it may not be too obvious... =/

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Exactly as I state in the OP.

Although, it may not be too obvious... =/

BTW, should we specify the differences of Master Ball and Poke Ball Pokemon on this thread? I know the Wiki will note it later(since it's a new Item and all), but is it necessary here?

 

[Frostwraith]

BTW, should we specify the differences of Master Ball and Poke Ball Pokemon on this thread? I know the Wiki will note it later(since it's a new Item and all), but is it necessary here?

They're different items in the original game and, despite the similarities in function, they're still different items. One can summon any Pokémon, the other only summons legendary Pokémon.

Unless the game considers the items as one (like how in Brawl, container items were all categorized as one in the item toggle), I'll list them as separate.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

They're different items in the original game and, despite the similarities in function, they're still different items. One can summon any Pokémon, the other only summons legendary Pokémon.

Unless the game considers the items as one (like how in Brawl, container items were all categorized as one in the item toggle), I'll list them as separate.

I mean to list them separately as Items. Oddly enough, Sakurai did say Poke Ball Pokemon when referring to Legendaries too, so who knows. My theory is that they're the same item, they just "change" the palette for the Ball depending upon what comes out.

I don't think anyone can properly confirm if they're unique or not yet, since we don't have an Item Menu.

Also, the Master Ball apparently summons rare and Legendary Pokemon. At least from what I've heard. I don't remember if that was a fact, or not. >_<

 

[Zwzchow]

Also, the Master Ball apparently summons rare and Legendary Pokemon. At least from what I've heard. I don't remember if that was a fact, or not. >_<

I think Sakurai said that it does (only?) that (Smash Direct)

It'll be fun to spawn only Master Balls and spam legends tho :3

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I think Sakurai said that it does (only?) that (Smash Direct)

It'll be fun to spawn only Master Balls and spam legends tho :3

Well, might help to just wait and see what it spawns. The official guide might help too. A lot think Zoroark will only show up in the Master Ball. To say the least, if he isn't playable, I just want to see him show up in a Poke Ball/Master Ball already so we can confirm that.(I don't believe he will be playable, but until we see him properly, the guy isn't disconfirmed yet respectively)

 

[Frostwraith]

I mean to list them separately as Items. Oddly enough, Sakurai did say Poke Ball Pokemon when referring to Legendaries too, so who knows. My theory is that they're the same item, they just "change" the palette for the Ball depending upon what comes out.

I don't think anyone can properly confirm if they're unique or not yet, since we don't have an Item Menu.

Also, the Master Ball apparently summons rare and Legendary Pokemon. At least from what I've heard. I don't remember if that was a fact, or not. >_<

There have been people noting that legendary Pokémon appeared through normal Poké Balls in the demo, so...

You may even find those on a few videos on YouTube. I'm pretty sure of that.