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I think the joke is going over your head a bit here.
Ah, didn't really pay much attention. Just shooting down any and all possible leaks.
Understandale, lol. I only know this because I follow Khonjin's stuff, I'd probably be pretty confused myself without context.
A down B that switches between modes would be interesting.
I would honestly be incredibly happy if this turns out to be the actual roster. No new zelda character is the only big thing missing here but it is really hard to predict who could come from that franchise that's not already included so that's understandable.So I wasted my time doing something that might be interesting. By going through the roster thread I created a roster based on the characters most predicted/requested.
Just some notes
- I didn't bother counting up veterans as most rosters did not have cuts, it seems the consensus is there will be none.
- Captain Toad and Toad were counted together. Overall definitely saw more Captain Toad though.
- Chorus Men just represents a Rhythm Heaven character. Counted separately none of the Rhythm Heaven characters were predicted/requested enough but together they were. I figured it was fair since no one is quite sure how the series would be represented, but on average people expect a Rhythm Heaven character.
Overall this roster is kind of....lack luster??? However it does have some of my most wanted including my number one so I wouldn't complain. Just doesn't look like what we will actually get lol.
So what do you guys think?
A pretty solid, albeit safe roster. Not my ideal choices in some areas, but still good stuff.So I wasted my time doing something that might be interesting. By going through the roster thread I created a roster based on the characters most predicted/requested.
Just some notes
- I didn't bother counting up veterans as most rosters did not have cuts, it seems the consensus is there will be none.
- Captain Toad and Toad were counted together. Overall definitely saw more Captain Toad though.
- Chorus Men just represents a Rhythm Heaven character. Counted separately none of the Rhythm Heaven characters were predicted/requested enough but together they were. I figured it was fair since no one is quite sure how the series would be represented, but on average people expect a Rhythm Heaven character.
Overall this roster is kind of....lack luster??? However it does have some of my most wanted including my number one so I wouldn't complain. Just doesn't look like what we will actually get lol.
So what do you guys think?
I believe I and most people use the one that's on the first post of the roster thread, the 9.1 edition. But I'm honestly unsure lol.
Extremely happy with this forum popular-pick roster. Solid with big hype characters like K. Rool, Ridley, Bomberman and other nice picks like Decidueye and Chorus Men and Dixie.So I wasted my time doing something that might be interesting. By going through the roster thread I created a roster based on the characters most predicted/requested.
Just some notes
- I didn't bother counting up veterans as most rosters did not have cuts, it seems the consensus is there will be none.
- Captain Toad and Toad were counted together. Overall definitely saw more Captain Toad though.
- Chorus Men just represents a Rhythm Heaven character. Counted separately none of the Rhythm Heaven characters were predicted/requested enough but together they were. I figured it was fair since no one is quite sure how the series would be represented, but on average people expect a Rhythm Heaven character.
Overall this roster is kind of....lack luster??? However it does have some of my most wanted including my number one so I wouldn't complain. Just doesn't look like what we will actually get lol.
So what do you guys think?
Ridley and K Rool's are the biggest question marks to me, I constantly go back on forth on whether they will happen and I honestly don't have any clue
It's not my "dream roster" per say, but I'd honestly be quite happy with this.So I wasted my time doing something that might be interesting. By going through the roster thread I created a roster based on the characters most predicted/requested.
Just some notes
- I didn't bother counting up veterans as most rosters did not have cuts, it seems the consensus is there will be none.
- Captain Toad and Toad were counted together. Overall definitely saw more Captain Toad though.
- Chorus Men just represents a Rhythm Heaven character. Counted separately none of the Rhythm Heaven characters were predicted/requested enough but together they were. I figured it was fair since no one is quite sure how the series would be represented, but on average people expect a Rhythm Heaven character.
Overall this roster is kind of....lack luster??? However it does have some of my most wanted including my number one so I wouldn't complain. Just doesn't look like what we will actually get lol.
So what do you guys think?
People who think cuts aren't happening are just setting themselves up for a huge disappointment.
People who think this game isn't gonna essentially a smash 4.5 are setting themselves up for disappointment
Brawl wasn't another version of Melee despite reusing its assets. Smash 4 wasn't another version of Brawl despite reusing its assets. There's no reason to assume Smash Switch will be any different.
which one? and why? Cloud and Ryu are so recent that I can't see them getting cut tbh, what's the point of adding them just cut them again a mere 2 years later
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There was a significant time gap between those games releasing, 7 years between melee and brawl and 6 years between brawl and smash 4, and the hardware jump between the consoles was also bigger which meant updating graphics and animations and models etc. There's only gonna be a 4 year difference with this game, 2 if you count the continued support of sm4sh after launch, and the Wii U and the Switch are already very comparable in power. I really don't expect much to change, I don't expect veterans to change very much, I don't expect them to redo a majority of the assets and models and animations, and I certainly don't expect cut characters.
To be honest I'd be pretty pleased with it; Two new Mario-verse characters, two DK newcomers, a Metroid, the token retro, a Kirby, a Pokemon, a Xenoblade, three previously unrepresented Nintendo franchises and a pair of new third parties. Definitely not awful but I can understand why you may see it as lackluster. Since it's what the majority want there's very few twists and turns.So I wasted my time doing something that might be interesting. By going through the roster thread I created a roster based on the characters most predicted/requested.
Just some notes
- I didn't bother counting up veterans as most rosters did not have cuts, it seems the consensus is there will be none.
- Captain Toad and Toad were counted together. Overall definitely saw more Captain Toad though.
- Chorus Men just represents a Rhythm Heaven character. Counted separately none of the Rhythm Heaven characters were predicted/requested enough but together they were. I figured it was fair since no one is quite sure how the series would be represented, but on average people expect a Rhythm Heaven character.
Overall this roster is kind of....lack luster??? However it does have some of my most wanted including my number one so I wouldn't complain. Just doesn't look like what we will actually get lol.
So what do you guys think?
I don't have the numbers on it right this minute, but I only used characters that were picked by at least 50% of the posts, and I believe Issac was as far down as below 25%. Not a lot of him at all.
I'm genuinely shocked! I guess his fanbase has lost a fair bit of hope after Sm4sh even wiped away his Assist Trophy...
Just because the Switch is comparable in power doesn't mean changes won't be made to take advantage of the system's capabilities or adjust to changes between systems such as handheld mode and the cartridges. Tropical Freeze for instance, despite being a port, has its assets called differently so that disk storage would be optimized for the cartridge. Additionally, we already have one such example of a character getting changes to them with Link getting his BotW design, so there's definitely room to believe there will be more changes to characters vs. Smash's previous outing on the Wii U/3DS.
True but I still feel the game will essentially be a port turned sequel since smash 4 is still pretty new and it still holds up as a new game, I think it'd just be a waste of time and resources to essentially start from scratch when using smash 4 as a base is just so much easier. There'll obviously be smaller changes where necessary like characters getting updated designs and movesets based on recent games and of course new stages and modes but I don't expect that to really effect characters and them getting cut since they're all essentially done already outside of inevitable tweaks to their movesets, models etc.
A nice roster, especially visually but I have a few questions. for one, Pauline? why? I know she was in odyssey but she was a minor character there and there's not a whole lot going for her when it comes to a moveset tbh.
First of all, both Brawl and 4 were only in development for ~2 years, the same amount of time Smash Switch has been in development for.
Even though it doesn't have a lot of the newcomers I'm pulling for, generally I like it!
Between that and the DLC being crammed into the bottom of the roster, the UI in Smash 4 drives me crazy 
Hopefully it's better in 5.
I'm not talking about development time, I'm just talking about time between releases, the more time passes the more the game and it's assets need to be updated to match modern standards, smash 4 isn't outdated and I don't expect it's models and animations etc to change much.
Brawl's assets weren't outdated when 4 came out. It did and does still look fine, save for the shading.
Reminder that your initial point was
You're basically saying "we don't know it isn't, therefore it is".
I explained Pauline's inclusion. Her inclusion was not because of Odyssey and saying she played a minor role is like saying Rosalina played a minor role in Super Mario Galaxy. Pauline has played "major" roles in SEVERAL Donkey Kong games.
Rosalina was a major part of Galaxy's story, she wasn't essentially a cameo in one level of the game like Pauline was. And Rosaina is here because of her moveset potential, Pauline doesn't really have that.
I really don't think Brawl's visuals would really pass for a 2014 game but whatever
The "Clone Zone" is there to avoid misunderstandings. I think part of why it was used is because people might select the character, not knowing they are merely a small deviation from the original, unlike someone like Lucas or Falco. This has caused people to complain because they don't understand that the clones are merely extra additions after the roster was already completed.Even though it doesn't have a lot of the newcomers I'm pulling for, generally I like it!
My only complaint is can we PLEASE not have the "clone zone" back?
Pauline was a big part of the promotion of Odyessey. Her role is defintely smaller than Rosalina's but I can see her inclusion. Also I would argue Rosalina had just as much forseeable Moveset potential as Pauline does now. They built a gimmick for Rosalina, and I could see them make a summoner gimmick for Pauline using the vs Donkey Kong minis.
I think you're really overestimating how much that actually matters.
What a shock that you would say that. It's almost like you say that about literally every character ever. And I've already explained why Pauline does have potential, so you can go back and read that.
I make that claim when a character doesn't have obvious potential to pull from that would make them unique, Rosalina has the whole Luma gimmick allowing her to be a puppet style character and magical abilities. What does pauline have? A hat, a bag and the ability to sing, those things don't really translate into a clear moveset.
Just want to casually pop-in to say that looking at the time gaps doesn't quite mean anything, as each game was not under developmentfor the entire duration of those gaps.
Like I already said, I wasn't talking about development time, I was talking about how much time had passed between releases and how outdated the visuals became and how they needed to be drastically updated because the games came out so long after one another.