Super Smash Bros 4 (Wii U/3DS) Topic

[KingofPhantoms]

I dropped Luigi at some point. I used to be a good Bowser, but lost my touch with him after using many other characters and not using him for a while. Same goes for Falco. I used to try out Zelda every now and then but I just don't like her style.

I main Kirby, King Dedede, and Pokemon Trainer as of now. I'm better with certain characters in full groups, while others I'm better with in 1v1 battles.
Other charactes I commonly use:

Mario
R.O.B.
Pikachu
Jigglypuff
Samus
Marth

And if I can tell someone is cheaping out or trolling online, I'll bust out Olimar. If I'm getting teamed up on, I'll bring out Meta Knight. Even with a character as fast as him, there's not much you can do about taunt kill feeding.

 

[Phan7om]

If people want to compete for first they'll gravitate towards the best character or secondaries that cover bad matchups to get to such placing.

Besides, these players can still play whatever their favorite character is during casuals or whenever they're not in competition.

Thats the sad part about it... thats why i was glad when Salem won Apex'13 with ZSS and not MK or ICs or something.

 

[~automatic]

Thats the sad part about it... thats why i was glad when Salem won Apex'13 with ZSS and not MK or ICs or something.

Salem won because he understood the MK match up, which he played a million times at that tourney; mains a character that has a minimal disadvantage against MK and knows all the intricacies of his character while no one really knows how to fight ZSS.

The best player in the venue won fairly by using his experience and knowledge against people who weren't familiar with the situations presented.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

We're at 700 pages now, wonder how long it'll take for this thread to reach 1000.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Oh and speaking of Meta Knight and Ice Climbers, WORSE MATCH UP EVER. Seriously.

 

[Phan7om]

Salem won because he understood the MK match up, which he played a million times at that tourney; mains a character that has a minimal disadvantage against MK and knows all the intricacies of his character while no one really knows how to fight ZSS.

The best player in the venue won fairly by using his experience and knowledge against people who weren't familiar with the situations presented.

Maybe its just me... but I dont think any of the top MKs really know how to fight anything besides MK, ICs, Olimar, Snake, Marth, Diddy, Wario, maybe Pika, and D3. I mean if their top players they might still kick a low tiers *** for the sheer purpose that MK is overused to may people know how to use MK to its full potential, and MK has tons of good frame options. If more people stuck to mastering their mains they would be just as good as Salem's ZSS. am i wrong?

 

[Wario Bros.]

SSB4 confirmed to have online play but, eh, did anyone really doubt this?

http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=206407&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook

Had no doubts whatsoever on this. I'm just hoping that I'll actually use it unlike that piece of crap Brawl calls "online". Heck, Kid Icarus: Uprising styled online will be enough to make me keep on coming back.

 

[Moon Monkey]

I dropped Luigi at some point. I used to be a good Bowser, but lost my touch with him after using many other characters and not using him for a while. Same goes for Falco. I used to try out Zelda every now and then but I just don't like her style.

I main Kirby, King Dedede, and Pokemon Trainer as of now. I'm better with certain characters in full groups, while others I'm better with in 1v1 battles.
Other charactes I commonly use:

Mario
R.O.B.
Pikachu
Jigglypuff
Samus
Marth

And if I can tell someone is cheaping out or trolling online, I'll bust out Olimar. If I'm getting teamed up on, I'll bring out Meta Knight. Even with a character as fast as him, there's not much you can do about taunt kill feeding.

I'll mess with every character except Marth, Falco, Metaknight, Lucas, Toon Link and Wario. I commonly use Yoshi, Donkey Kong, Diddy, Bowser, Pikachu, Link, PT, Olimar and Zelda.

 

[Platsy]

I've always ended up maining mid-low tier characters, without realizing it until I discovered tier lists in early 2012, and even then, I continue to do so. I don't really have grudges against top tier characters, it's just that I find almost all of their playstyles painfully boring, or I just don't like them as a character.

I mostly main Pit, Ganon, and Luigi. The only 2 characters I officially dropped are MK and IC. I never liked MK as a character being that he's Kirby with a cliche dark samurai personality, and his attacks are all over the place and it's hard to do something without going all over the screen. ICs I just never liked. No idea why, but I just don't like them.

 

[Phan7om]

I use to use MK but when I realized how broken he was I dropped him. Hes probably still my best character by far, but Ill never use it against people.

 

[Jedisupersonic]

I like Metaknight character wise and was excited to see him in brawl. Then I learned just how good he was and went.. Welp better drop him or else people will call me a cheater.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Anyone seen the new Bitf Comic today?

What joke will Matthew create that revolves around Frederick next?

 

[~automatic]

You guys really need to stop worrying about how good characters are and focus on enjoying the game AND the characters included. If you're not involved in a competitive community with proficient people the intricacies of the meta game won't affect you as much as you think they will.

 

[Jedisupersonic]

You guys really need to stop worrying about how good characters are and focus on enjoying the game AND the characters included. If you're not involved in a competitive community with proficient people the intricacies of the meta game won't affect you as much as you think they will.

You are absolutely correct ^^; I'm not all that into the deep competitive smash game to be perfectly honest. I just use who I want when I want pretty much [other then the example I put above]. Although I was thinking for Smash 4 to get into it a little bit this time.

 

[Admiral Pit]

Olimar is the essence of annoying and evil on wifi, even more than MK. That's something to agree on.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Olimar is the essence of annoying and evil on wifi, even more than MK. That's something to agree on.

I don't agree. His Pikmin are the true evil. Seperate Olimar from the Pikmin, and what does he got then?

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Characters I commonly use:

Samus/Zero Suit Samus
Peach
Zelda
Marth
Wolf
Luigi
R.O.B.
King Dedede
Olimar
Sonic

 

[KingofPhantoms]

I've tried Sonic before, but his style doesn't really suit me either.

 

[Jedisupersonic]

Characters I commonly use:

Samus/Zero Suit Samus
Peach
Zelda
Marth
Wolf
Luigi
R.O.B.
King Dedede
Olimar
Sonic

I tend to use

Marth
Mario
Ike
Falco
Link
Sonic
Peach
Lucario.

Even then I still bounce around with the others for variety.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

I've tried Sonic before, but his style doesn't really suit me either.

I was so excited about him and then his moveset just left me wanting. I've kept him under my wing mainly because he's ****ing Sonic.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

I tend to use

Marth
Mario
Ike
Falco
Link
Sonic
Peach
Lucario.

Even then I still bounce around with the others for variety.

Yeah, variety is good. I'll try Fox every now and then, and Bowser.
I really need to work on my Bowser skills.

 

[FalKoopa]

I tend to use the following characters

Mario
Luigi
Peach
Bowser
Toon Link
Zelda
Falco
Mr. G&W
King Dedede
ROB
Ike

 

[Phan7om]

We got pretty far off topic... lets not talk about Brawl tiers anymore and who we use to main, but talk about Smash 4 as the thread stated.

I hope ness, yoshi, luigi, falcon, and jiggs are in the next one, but ill still get it even if they're not there.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I tend to use ROB, D3, and less so Diddy and Olimar

 

[Moon Monkey]

You guys really need to stop worrying about how good characters are and focus on enjoying the game AND the characters included. If you're not involved in a competitive community with proficient people the intricacies of the meta game won't affect you as much as you think they will.

I don't think anyone here worries about how good characters are. From the looks of it most people here tend to use characters that are deemed "mid to low tier". I really don't know if anyone here (right now) really cares about tiers in general.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

But yeah variety is key. Sometimes I randomly throw a bone the rest of the roster's way so I know how to at least function with everyone in the roster.

Yesterday I played my boyfriend's sister as Yoshi because she wanted me to play the person I play the least. She tricked me into losing those last three matches.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Would anyone be willing to give Meta Knight a second shot if he was nerfed and more balanced?
For Smash 4 of course.

 

[Jaedrik]

Confession #3: I had a crush on this boy who sat next to me in grade 6. I was too shy to befriend him.

@Confession 3: I had a similar situation in my freshman year in highschool [gosh that feels so long ago]. There was a girl I liked but the whole year I never could speak to her because i'm a shy guy I got better somewhat over the years but :<

I feel your pains, it sure was hard being a shyguy, or Lon'Qu. No longer. Not that it solved anything :/
My sister told me once: "Sometimes, girls say things they really don't mean and expect you to know what they mean."

 

[Moon Monkey]

Would anyone be willing to give Meta Knight a second shot if he was nerfed and more balanced?
For Smash 4 of course.

If his moveset was a little more interesting maybe. But if it is just the same moveset with tweaked damage output i doubt it.

 

[Jedisupersonic]

We got pretty far off topic... lets not talk about Brawl tiers anymore and who we use to main, but talk about Smash 4 as the thread stated.

I hope ness, yoshi, luigi, falcon, and jiggs are in the next one, but ill still get it even if they're not there.

I personally think those 5 are safe. Original 12 and all plus taking out Luigi after the YEAR OF LUIGI would be a crime.

 

[Phan7om]

Would anyone be willing to give Meta Knight a second shot if he was nerfed and more balanced?
For Smash 4 of course.

Absolutely!!!1!!1111

 

[Phan7om]

If his moveset was a little more interesting maybe. But if it is just the same moveset with tweaked damage output i doubt it.

Maybe it was just me, but I thought thats what he meant by balanced.

 

[Platsy]

Would anyone be willing to give Meta Knight a second shot if he was nerfed and more balanced?
For Smash 4 of course.

Nope. Still Meta Knight.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

I meant if some of his moves couldn't be landed so easily, and if his specials couldn't ALL function as recoveries. A different balanced out moveset. Nerfing his attacks in damage and knockback certainly wouldn't be enough.

 

[Moon Monkey]

Maybe it was just me, but I thought thats what he meant by balanced.

If he meant balanced as in new moveset overhaul like Bowser/Pit then yes.
If he meant balance as in existing brawl moveset with changes to % then no.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Would anyone be willing to give Meta Knight a second shot if he was nerfed and more balanced?
For Smash 4 of course.

Yes. He's got a nice playstyle, he's just overpowered as **** and that is really offputting. A character who is so speedy and focusses on linking attacks togheter he shouldn't kill so well. Nerf him similary to what they did with Sheik in Brawl. Maybe a little less, cause Brawl Sheik is actually really sucky.

 

[Phan7om]

I meant if some of his moves couldn't be landed so easily, and if his specials couldn't ALL function as recoveries. A different balanced out moveset. Nerfing his attacks in damage and knockback certainly wouldn't be enough.

Giving all of his attacks 5 or more frames of endlag would help. Having tornado have good knockback (not able to be trapped inside of it) Shuttle Loop always sending someone vertical would also help in nerfing him.

 

[Jaedrik]

It is irrational to hate a character's ethos and essence simply because he was overly powerful in one game.
Here's hoping for that balance. I hope Marth gets his longer sword back

 

[Admiral Pit]

Needs more Pit Upperdash and Guardian, and Boozer dropkick.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Giving all of his attacks 5 or more frames of endlag would help. Having tornado have good knockback (not able to be trapped inside of it) Shuttle Loop always sending someone vertical would also help in nerfing him.

That would help, but he would still need an overhaul.