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I wonder how the whole "Wii U" thing will go down with Smash. What I mean is, how will it be played? On a T.V?
??? Don't you typically need a TV/Monitor to play any gaming system ???
If your talking about possible gamepad use, Sakurai said he was going to keep that controller and it's features limited to level the playing field for all controllers.
 

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I wonder how the whole "Wii U" thing will go down with Smash. What I mean is, how will it be played? On a T.V?
I would play on Gamepad only like I do for All-Stars Racing Transformed, but I'll probably play it on my TV for the principle. I always have before.

3DS may break that habit, but I don't really see that happening.

@Moon: There's still the Off-TV mode. I use it all the time for Sonic Racing Transformed. :grin:
 

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Hmm. Is it possible that by bigger he men's more time spent oon it and more designed? I don't know, I'm a little confused, but relaxed nonetheless. Sakurai will do the game a justice.

I'm going to hope and assume he means more detail int he art of the stage itself, and pray it isn't making the stages enormous.
 

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I got this feeling 3DS is going to be THE place for Smash tournaments at this rate if bigger stages is actually literally bigger stages...
That's what I hate about the dual-console capability. Do I get Smash for 3DS (So I can also play the new Animal Crossing + Pokemon X n' Y) or do I get it for the Wii U because - its the way I've been playing since Melee (Controller in hand)?

I currently don't have either systems, but my twin sister and I are having a "Sweet and Sour 16". If I get some money from that, I may be able to save up to buy one of them. But which one?
 

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That's what I hate about the dual-console capability. Do I get Smash for 3DS (So I can also play the new Animal Crossing + Pokemon X n' Y) or do I get it for the Wii U because - its the way I've been playing since Melee (Controller in hand)?

I currently don't have either systems, but my twin sister and I are having a "Sweet and Sour 16". If I get some money from that, I may be able to save up to buy one of them. But which one?
I don't know what to tell you, since I have both systems already. :laugh:

Me, I'm getting both. 3DS for trips and stuff when I'm not driving or when I'm not at home, and WiiU when I want to just sit down and play some good old Smash Bros.
 

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Sweet Potatos are laggy as hell.
Red are alright, but they tend to show a lot more jaggies.
Irish are the only way to go.
 

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I'm going to hope and assume he means more detail int he art of the stage itself, and pray it isn't making the stages enormous.
I doubt he'd do that. I think he means they have more space and storage to spend more time on the Wii U stages. Maybe bigger means grander?

And I'm sure they'll be another few ginormous stages. But he wouldn't be that much of a jerk to competitive players to have almost all huge stages.

I'm pretty content with what we have so far. Aside from Skyloft, Reset Bomb Forest, and the Spirit Train, they all look like nice, static stages.
 

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That's what I hate about the dual-console capability. Do I get Smash for 3DS (So I can also play the new Animal Crossing + Pokemon X n' Y) or do I get it for the Wii U because - its the way I've been playing since Melee (Controller in hand)?

I currently don't have either systems, but my twin sister and I are having a "Sweet and Sour 16". If I get some money from that, I may be able to save up to buy one of them. But which one?

I'm getting a streaming 3DS and intend on plunging my life into the game so it will have a competitive scene. It has TONS of advantages going for it, and hopefully it'll turn out.

I'm pretty content with what we have so far. Aside from Skyloft, Reset Bomb Forest, and the Spirit Train, they all look like nice, static stages.
What's wrong with Spirit Tracks?
 

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I'm getting a streaming 3DS and intend on plunging my life into the game so it will have a competitive scene. It has TONS of advantages going for it, and hopefully it'll turn out.



What's wrong with Spirit Tracks?
I think Spirit Tracks is kind of like Big Blue from Melee.

A potato of the GLaDOS variety.
If a potato can sustain GLaDOS, then it should run a computer fine.

Now, trying to record with a potato is another story...
 

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He's just saying that it seems to be a stage it a lot of hazards, unlike FD or Smashville.
The Spirit Train's only immediately visible issue is the highly likely Big Blue-esque road mechanics off to the side. The train itself is perfectly static.

It's like Big Blue if the Falcon Flyer was always there in the same place with just the background moving. Like SSF2's Sand Ocean stage.

 

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I don't know what to tell you, since I have both systems already. :laugh:

Me, I'm getting both. 3DS for trips and stuff when I'm not driving or when I'm not at home, and WiiU when I want to just sit down and play some good old Smash Bros.
To me, here are the pros and cons of both systems:

3DS:
Pros-
1. I can play on the go
2. Much easier to play with other people
3. I'll be able to play the new Pokemon and Animal crossing games (I've played/loved every installment of AC)
4. My friend will be getting it for the 3DS too

Cons-
1. I'll have to re-learn the buttons
2. Lesser quality (Not sure if it really affects much)

Wii U:
Pros-
1. Controllers!
2. Higher quality (HD - are both in HD?)
3. I'll be able to get Pikman 3

Cons-
1. Won't be able to play with my friend (well, he'll have to learn how to play with the Wii U)
2. I won't be able to play Pokemon X n' Y/ Animal Crossing
3. I'll be reliant of how powerful the next-gen-online-play is
4. Won't be able to play on the go.
 

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That's what I hate about the dual-console capability. Do I get Smash for 3DS (So I can also play the new Animal Crossing + Pokemon X n' Y) or do I get it for the Wii U because - its the way I've been playing since Melee (Controller in hand)?

I currently don't have either systems, but my twin sister and I are having a "Sweet and Sour 16". If I get some money from that, I may be able to save up to buy one of them. But which one?
I'm actually gonna buy the 3DS one. And I think the 3DS version will have near identical controls to the Gamecube controller:
Circle Pad: Move, jump, crawl, etc.
A: Attack
B: Special
L/R: Shield
L/R + Circle Pad: Dodge
L/R + A: Grab
Start: Pause
Control Stick: Taunt

Which leaves X and Y unused. And since we don't have the yellow C-Stick, we wouldn't be able to ddo a fast smash attack. But that is what I think the 3DS controls will be like.
 

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To me, here are the pros and cons of both systems:

3DS:
Pros-
1. I can play on the go
2. Much easier to play with other people
3. I'll be able to play the new Pokemon and Animal crossing games (I've played/loved every installment of AC)
4. My friend will be getting it for the 3DS too

Cons-
1. I'll have to re-learn the buttons
2. Lesser quality (Not sure if it really affects much)

Wii U:
Pros-
1. Controllers!
2. Higher quality (HD - are both in HD?)
3. I'll be able to get Pikman 3

Cons-
1. Won't be able to play with my friend (well, he'll have to learn how to play with the Wii U)
2. I won't be able to play Pokemon X n' Y/ Animal Crossing
3. I'll be reliant of how powerful the next-gen-online-play is
4. Won't be able to play on the go.
Pikmans 3 is worth it alone. It's awesome.
 

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I'm actually gonna buy the 3DS one. And I think the 3DS version will have near identical controls to the Gamecube controller:
Circle Pad: Move, jump, crawl, etc.
A: Attack
B: Special
L/R: Shield
L/R + Circle Pad: Dodge
L/R + A: Grab
Start: Pause
Control Stick: Taunt

Which leaves X and Y unused. And since we don't have the yellow C-Stick, we wouldn't be able to ddo a fast smash attack. But that is what I think the 3DS controls will be like.
X and Y on the 3DS could also be jump. Like the GCN controller.
 

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I think Spirit Tracks is kind of like Big Blue from Melee.
Not a great reason to smack it out right from the get go, especially since the original reason for banning Big Blue was circle camping issues, trailing behind the train would be a fast way to be killed, and I bet the train if you stand in front of it smacks you to death.

The only real problem I could see is if the train has a solid ceiling, cave of life issues then.
 

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X and Y on the 3DS could also be jump. Like the GCN controller.
True. And Capps, you are right about not jumping to conclusions. I just have a hunch it might not be competitively viable. But well have to wait and see :)

But I'm just happy most of these stages don't seem gimmicky so far. Brawl was ridiculous. I only liked playing on Smashville.
 

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True. And Capps, you are right about not jumping to conclusions. I just have a hunch it might not be competitively viable. But well have to wait and see :)

But I'm just happy most of these stages don't seem gimmicky so far. Brawl was ridiculous. I only liked playing on Smashville.
But I thought Rumble Falls was pretty good.
 

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To me, here are the pros and cons of both systems:

3DS:
Pros-
1. I can play on the go
2. Much easier to play with other people
3. I'll be able to play the new Pokemon and Animal crossing games (I've played/loved every installment of AC)
4. My friend will be getting it for the 3DS too

Cons-
1. I'll have to re-learn the buttons
2. Lesser quality (Not sure if it really affects much)

Wii U:
Pros-
1. Controllers!
2. Higher quality (HD - are both in HD?)
3. I'll be able to get Pikman 3

Cons-
1. Won't be able to play with my friend (well, he'll have to learn how to play with the Wii U)
2. I won't be able to play Pokemon X n' Y/ Animal Crossing
3. I'll be reliant of how powerful the next-gen-online-play is
4. Won't be able to play on the go.
Are friends still able to play locally for games they don't have? that could be another pro for 3DS
And won't the 3DS online be dependent on the online-play as well?
 

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But I thought Rumble Falls was pretty good.

Don't joke, there was a VERY serious group arguing for its legality for quite some time. In all reality, it kinda fell under the Mario Bros Phenomena is which it actually IS competitive, but no one would show up if it was legal.
 

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Not a great reason to smack it out right from the get go, especially since the original reason for banning Big Blue was circle camping issues, trailing behind the train would be a fast way to be killed, and I bet the train if you stand in front of it smacks you to death.

The only real problem I could see is if the train has a solid ceiling, cave of life issues then.
Yeah, that would allow for a long and effective combos, I fear it may be worse than that one area in Hyrule Temple.

We'll just have to wait and see. I'll try and get into competitive Smash, at least for the 4th game.
 

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Just noticed the price differentiation... I'd love to play another Pikman game, but 2 games beat one.

$180 for a 3DS ($127 on sale)
$319 for a Wii U (Basic)

I feel your pain. I have the 3DS since I got money last Christmas, and I'm content. So ill have the next smash game. But I really want Pikmin and the new DK game. I'd also want my hands on Wind Waker and a potential Wii U Zelda. But I have Animal Crossing, and soon Pokemon X and Y and ALttP remake.
 

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The potatoes themselves are pretty tasty though.
I'll take your word for it.
I don't know, but my friend and I always used to play games like that on our old DS's. :)
I think that feature might be available in Mario Kart 7. Gimmie a sec I'll check.

P.S. I got my 3DS at launch for like 130 bucks traded in DS with it and had a good amount of instore credit to reduce the price out of pocket.
 
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