Sunrise Up Again! Isaac for Smash Ultimate DLC

Zalaresh

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Considering how long the August Direct was, and how many characters we got from 27 minutes of reveal time, with an additional 13 minutes on top of that in this new direct, I really think this could be it. I also believe 7 characters is not that far fetched to reveal in that amount of time. They may just have shorter trailers, combine the character reveal trailers, or make it more low quality like Isabelle to maximize on time ( Chorus Kids and Mach Rider come to mind for something like this.) . With 5 characters in 27 minutes, 7 within 40 minutes It can be done. We don't know if that time can fluctuate for the trailer. Depending on circumstances, we could get more or less when it actually launches. Also like stated before one of the characters could be being saved as a DLC although I highly doubt that. I think they are more likely to announce an 8th character for that slot. All of this is if the Grinch Leak holds true.
 
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I have faith we're going to see our Isaac reveal, it's just a question of when. If I had to guess what the rough outline of the Direct will look like, we'll get Isaac to start, somewhere in the middle we'll get the two echoes and Geno as a third-party batch, and then at the very end Chorus Kids into Mach Rider into Banjo-Kazooie for maximum hype. Throw in Spirits mode, online, any extra items/stages/etc, maybe some notes on K. Rool and Isabelle, and even without mentioning DLC you have a packed Direct to look forward to. Even if the Grinch leak ends up being false I have no doubt we're going to get a very hype show!
 

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40 minute direct on Thursday, huh? this is gonna be a tense 48 hours indeed. given the lightning fast pace of past smash directs, i wouldn't be too worried about time-- especially since it's unlikely that Spirits will take more than 15 minutes to get through. the treehouse right after could also free up quite a bit of time!

unfortunately i should be in the middle of second period when it airs, so... perhaps i'll have to come down with some debilitating illness that day~

also True Blue Warrior True Blue Warrior , could you add me to the support list? i totally meant to ping you in my original post, my bad!
Loving your avatar, did you draw that?
 

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I hope at least that Isaac ends up announced at this Smash direct.

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Assuming this really is the last batch of Smash Bros news I wonder how they will deal with the 5 unknown stages we'll be getting and in what form will they be presented to us. I think that's something very interesting to think about.

Can you make a sizzle reel with just 5 stages?

No proof of course but I'm definitely banking on them being attached to newcomer reveals now.
 
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40 minute direct on Thursday, huh? this is gonna be a tense 48 hours indeed. given the lightning fast pace of past smash directs, i wouldn't be too worried about time-- especially since it's unlikely that Spirits will take more than 15 minutes to get through. the treehouse right after could also free up quite a bit of time!

unfortunately i should be in the middle of second period when it airs, so... perhaps i'll have to come down with some debilitating illness that day~

also True Blue Warrior True Blue Warrior , could you add me to the support list? i totally meant to ping you in my original post, my bad!
ahhh love your pfp
 

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In case it’s not obvious based on my comments. I’m not entirely team real anymore on the leak. I lean real from neutral.

But regardless of that, I’m extremely confident Isaac is in as a playable character.
 

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I wonder if they will use aspects from Minecraft for the custom stage creator, or maybe take some examples from Super Mario Maker. I always thought that Smash 4's stage creator was missing something. This is assuming that it will come back ( Which is very likely. It is ultimate after all.). It would be cool if they had props from the some of the Golden sun games to add to a stage, or any of the others. Lets hope this is something that is talked about in the direct, as long as it doesn't take to much time away from the character reveals.
 
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In case it’s not obvious based on my comments. I’m not entirely team real anymore on the leak. I lean real from neutral.

But regardless of that, I’m extremely confident Isaac is in as a playable character.
I think what makes this whole "Team Real Vs Team Fake" thing confusing on the internet is there are 4 types of people. [A] People who want it to be real, people who believe its real, [A] people who want it to be fake, and people who believe its fake.

[A] should be debating against [A] and should be debating against , but with Smash speculations its not the case lol. Anyways I'm pretty much where you are too. I REALLY want it to be real, but I don't want to hype myself up too much lol.
 
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Halloween is tomorrow. Anyone expecting a special reveal?

Here are a couple of things they could do:

Ghost Type Pokemon
Luigi related things
Metroid related things
Castlevania related things
Eternal Darkness or Geist assist (that would be awesome)
Pac-Man related thing
Resident Evil assist
Fatal Frame assist
Trace Memory assist (If I recall there were ghosts)
Dark Souls assist (pls Namco)
Ghost N Goblins assist

Edit: you know it would be perfect to show Spirits mode tomorrow tbh
 
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Zalaresh

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Assuming this really is the last batch of Smash Bros news I wonder how they will deal with the 5 unknown stages we'll be getting and in what form will they be presented to us. I think that's something very interesting to think about.

Can you make a sizzle reel with just 5 stages?

No proof of course but I'm definitely banking on them being attached to newcomer reveals now.
I personally think that the Characters that will get stages with their reveals will be Isaac, and Banjo. I think that Shadow and Ken and Geno will not come with one. They will probably just add music from Super Mario RPG to Mario stages. that leaves one to three outlier stages that will probably represent other IP's they could potentially do stages for Mach Rider and Chorus Kids, but I'm a bit skeptical of that. I definitely could be wrong, but that's just my guess.

I'm obviously leaning team real.
 
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In case it’s not obvious based on my comments. I’m not entirely team real anymore on the leak. I lean real from neutral.

But regardless of that, I’m extremely confident Isaac is in as a playable character.
I've stuck myself back on the fence now for the Grinch leak. I want it to be real but I'm not confident. I'm not even confident Isaac will be playable anymore. I remember being confident leading up to 4's release because he hadn't been revealed as an assist trophy... And then I remember being confident he'd be DLC because there had to be a reason why he wasn't included in the base roster. I'm getting feels of deja vu with Ultimate... I guess the main difference here is that sapling item which may be related to Golden Sun. I'm especially not confident now with the talk on Resetera about the final characters being Incineroar, Ken, Zeraora and maybe Geno.
 

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Let’s just go in hoping Isaac and not confirmation of the Grinch leak. I know we got 5 fighters last time, but 3 of those were Echo fighters as a reminder and didn’t require full on trailers in the same way (Though Richter did appear in one). Unique newcomers are likely to get a little more spotlight and take more time.

It’s possible that we could get that many, but do remember just how much else they have to get through in this Direct outside of characters and how much time Sakurai can spend on the small details. Don’t take the length to mean anything until it’s actually proven.
This reminds me, and I wonder if anyone else has brought it up, but why haven't I heard the possibility that Mach Rider is a clone or Echo of Captain Falcon? I know that we've already have Ganondorf, but Mach Rider makes sense as a Captain Falcon clone for me. That would only result in 4 new characters, which wouldn't be too off base (especially since this direct is almost twice as long as the other direct).

I really don't care about the Grinch Leak, just want my boy Isaac in, but it's something I would think about.
 

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Yeah gonna call it now. Anyone that thinks we’re still only getting Tony the Tiger and Not Ryu is full of it.

A 40 minute direct dedicated to a single newcomer, an echo and a new mode. Nah. Not happening fam. Even if the Grinch Leak is fake, there’s at least 3 newcomers in this. Not counting echoes.
 

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I suppose it’s possible Isaac could be an AT again, but I find it really hard to believe that because if that was the case it would mean Sakurai hid that fact until the very last Direct. That almost seems too cruel.

I think the biggest theory I kind of subscribe to is that Isaac was going to be revealed with Isabelle in that September Direct, but was cut because seeing him shake the earth would have been inappropriate.

Because if he was going to be revealed in September then the Rathalos tweet that referenced Golden Sun that was tweeted prior to that Direct would make complete sense as foreshadowing of his reveal.
 
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I am looking forward to the picture of Isaac eating a Wendys burger with a plant at his feet while fighting the Rathalos Dragon.
 

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Long time lurker and with the Final Direct before release, I made an account to show support for the characters I want.

While I've never played Golden Sun, I was very surprised to see that Isaac was not returning to Smash as an Assist Trophy for 3DS/WiiU and it made me think he was playable. Now that there's a chance that he can be playable in Smash, I'm excited to see what happens. The support shown for Isaac has made me want to play Golden Sun and see what makes good people like you guys (I've seen Isaac supporters popping up in so many threads wishing that thread's character luck) love this character.

Here's hoping that Isaac makes it, whether the Grinch Leak is real or not!
 

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Direct on thursday and..... at a time where I can actually watch it live! Oh snap!

C'MON ISAAC!
 

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Yeah gonna call it now. Anyone that thinks we’re still only getting Tony the Tiger and Not Ryu is full of it.

A 40 minute direct dedicated to a single newcomer, an echo and a new mode. Nah. Not happening fam. Even if the Grinch Leak is fake, there’s at least 3 newcomers in this. Not counting echoes.
You forgot someone.
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(This is just a joke)
 

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Icana Icana I know right? I was worried it was going to be in the middle of the day my time, and I’d be at work then, but no. It’s in the morning. I hate waking up early, but I will absolutely get up to see this.
Edit: I’m so excited I forgot to quote you, Icana. Aaaaaaaagh!
 
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Guys we genuinely did it over 700 pages if Isaac is in… good job in advance.
 

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This reminds me, and I wonder if anyone else has brought it up, but why haven't I heard the possibility that Mach Rider is a clone or Echo of Captain Falcon? I know that we've already have Ganondorf, but Mach Rider makes sense as a Captain Falcon clone for me. That would only result in 4 new characters, which wouldn't be too off base (especially since this direct is almost twice as long as the other direct).

I really don't care about the Grinch Leak, just want my boy Isaac in, but it's something I would think about.
Honestly, I don't think we'll see any Echo fighters that don't belong to the series their Echoing off of. All six of the Echo fighters in the game still Echo a character from their franchise. Mach Rider would be really, really weird. And I don't really see a point for Captain Falcon to have an Echo either. I think we're going to hold to that. If Mach Rider is a character, it's unique or bust for him.

Yeah gonna call it now. Anyone that thinks we’re still only getting Tony the Tiger and Not Ryu is full of it.

A 40 minute direct dedicated to a single newcomer, an echo and a new mode. Nah. Not happening fam. Even if the Grinch Leak is fake, there’s at least 3 newcomers in this. Not counting echoes.
There is a LOT more to cover than one new mode. Spirits will likely get a long over explanation anyway, but we've not touched upon the Online, Vault, and Games & More at all except for a single mention that Classic Mode is back and unique to each character. Trophies are still MIA, we've not seen all the assist trophies so far, and they generally do like to highlight the stages in each Direct for Ultimate so far. Even though we've seen all the announced ones, I suspect they'll want to show some more off.

Plus Sakurai is the king of over-explanation when it comes to Nintendo if E3 is any indication. If we get a bunch of fighters, it'll be a very active choice to not spend as much time on other elements of the game which still need attention. I mean Sakurai filled up how many minutes of E3 with glorified veteran patch notes? It will come down to how Sakurai wants to pace the Direct and what he actually has to reveal, the time, again, means nothing and we can extrapolate nothing from it when there is still lots of content to potentially reveal beyond fighters. We'll get a character trailer, that's about the only certainty we can have going in (and hopefully more).
 

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Yeah gonna call it now. Anyone that thinks we’re still only getting Tony the Tiger and Not Ryu is full of it.

A 40 minute direct dedicated to a single newcomer, an echo and a new mode. Nah. Not happening fam. Even if the Grinch Leak is fake, there’s at least 3 newcomers in this. Not counting echoes.
And to just add in... this is gonna be LONGEST Smash Direct we've had yet. Last ones were at best 30-35 minutes. Add then in how the August Direct covered ton of things already for us regarding music, stages and multiplayer modes, so I'm kind of expecting the Direct to put more emphasis on character reveals throughout, among other things like the long-waited reveal of Spirits Mode.

So yeah. I think we might at least get some stuff confirmed from the Grinch Leak - let's hope Isaac and as much many other characters in it are included within that...

 

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40 minutes will be a nail biter photo finish.

Everyone’s rooting for you Adepts. Isaac’s reveal will not only get a long awaited character in Smash, but could be the herald of the best Smash roster ever.

Let’s hope Christmas comes early.
 

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You forgot someone.
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(This is just a joke)
Morning of the direct.

Sakarai: Alright are we all set to go for the Isaac reveal?

Employee: Um actually we umm... lost it all.

Sakarai: What do you mean?

Employee: I mean we lost it all. Isaac. Geno. Everything. The game was just deleted.

Sakarai:



Sakarai: Wha!!!! How?! What! I'm going to be ruined!!!

Employee: Um... do you think the fans would be okay with this? We have a Minecraft build of the game the guys built for fun on the side.

Sakarai:

 
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Q-Long

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hmm 1 more month for 7 characters

Maybe it'll go like this

Isaac, Geno, Chorus Kids, Mach Rider trailers tomorrow

Shadow and Ken Echo reveals

Than Banjo before release
 

Arteen

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Yeah gonna call it now. Anyone that thinks we’re still only getting Tony the Tiger and Not Ryu is full of it.

A 40 minute direct dedicated to a single newcomer, an echo and a new mode. Nah. Not happening fam. Even if the Grinch Leak is fake, there’s at least 3 newcomers in this. Not counting echoes.
Ken, Incineroar, Pink Gold Incineroar.
 

jweb23

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40 minutes.
Let' assume Spiritsode showcase is 10 minutes, online features is 5 and remaining stuff such as trophies is 2 or 3. That's 22 minutes left for character reveals, which might not need to have detailed coverage to them since there's a treehouse stream right after. That's a lot of time left for character reveals, especially since their trailer lengths can go from rather short (Ridley and Inkling) to kinda long like Simon and Richter.
This brings up a very good point! Due to the announcement of the Treehouse stream following the Direct, it’s possible we don’t get long explanations on character movesets at all as they can easily be covered during the treehouse! That will allow them to fit as much as possible into this direct.
 
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