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Official Summer of Smash: Week #7 - EVO 2016 and Co.

dakotaisgreat

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Unrelated but since the stream is down, did Ally ever clarify what he said about there being a patch tomorrow? The complete and utter lack of Roy at EVO angers me.
 

-Tornado-

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I don't know about you guys
But I'm actually missing sub only chat right now
 

TDK

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I'd Deactivate the chat if Chrome would load the page for long enough before crashing due to the chat.

EDIT: There we go.
 
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~ Gheb ~

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I think Sheik, Diddy Kong, Rosalina, Mewtwo and either Fox or Sonic are the top 5 in the game. Mario's close behind though.

Kame has done impressive things with Cloud, but it is undoubtedly still a secondary. Also, how telling is it that two MM players have Clouds but they don't do much? I think this is more evidence for ~ Gheb ~ ~ Gheb ~ 's theory that Cloud isn't always a great secondary.
I mean why would a character that gets hard-countered by the best character in the game be the universal go-to pick as a secondary? This shouldn't surprise people!

:059:
 

Ninety

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I think Sheik, Diddy Kong, Rosalina, Mewtwo and either Fox or Sonic are the top 5 in the game. Mario's close behind though.



I mean why would a character that gets hard-countered by the best character in the game be the universal go-to pick as a secondary? This shouldn't surprise people!

:059:
You got a funny definition of "hard counter".
 

TTTTTsd

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Dude, have you even seen the record between Sheik and Cloud? It's like 6-0 or something in her favor. It's pretty awful.

:059:
Yo really? I believe you but I'd like to see the data. I know I made a huge post on why Sheik beats Cloud at the basic level (it was giant and long and pretty good I think, probs applies here) but whoa. I'd like to see this, actually!

I mean it validates Mewtwo/Cloud as a combo even more, for sure....
 

TTTTTsd

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Cloud hasn't beaten top-level Sheik since like, month 1 IIRC.
No I mean like notable player matchups and whatnot. I know there was a period of time where Komo dominated with Cloud for a bit but I was under the assumption that he was talking about post-nerf Cloud and not pre-nerf Cloud. I might be wrong tho. But if the record's just like, 6-0 then I was under the assumption that it was recent. Recent life circumstances prevented me from keeping up with EVERYTHING so I'm asking mostly to scan what I missed.
 
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Das Koopa

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Kamemushi takes a game of ZeRo, first to do so today
 

Rizen

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Mega Man takes game 1 wow. SSB4 balance and comeback factors are great :)
Edit, what is the MM vs Diddy MU ratio?
 
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Zelder

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I think Zero should debate retiring his Sheik, she's a liability at top level play (right now).
 

hypersonicJD

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YO: ZERO IS GETTING DESTROYED. WHAT IS HAPPENING!?
 

Rizen

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Is ZeRo losing his edge after his absence or are other players improving (or both)?
 

hypersonicJD

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NO: THIS DIDNT HAPPEN.

KAMEMUSHI 3 -0'S ZERO
 

-Tornado-

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Fighting to save t h e w o r l d
 

Zelder

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I don't know enough about the Diddy vs Mega Man matchup to say anything decisively, but I imagine that a pro Mega Man player's item knowledge is an invaluable asset in that matchup.
 

Nobie

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If you ever wondered why people say Mega Man has a good Diddy match-up, this was a master class.
 

BunbUn129

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So Mega Man is in Grand Finals of the biggest Smash 4 tourney yet.

Mega Man will take it, I'm calling it, and I will gladly eat my controller's cable like it's spaghetti.
 

Rizen

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Now Yoshi v Mario. Yoshi wants revenge for being used as a step stool in SMario World.
 
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