Sudai has figured out ROB's biggest weakness.

[Sudai]

We all know a logical paradox can destroy a normal Robot, but ROB is far superior and has anti-paradoxal coding, just in case.

Well, Sudai has found something that even ROB can not survive from. The disapproval of math and therefore all sciences.

Sudai can make any number equal another number. : )

Ironically enough, I'll be using math to disprove the fundamental concept of math..lol

Ok, first we define our variables. For this equation we'll let 'a' represent the first arbitrary number, 'b' represent the second arbitrary number, and 't' represent the sum of the two.

a + b = t
(a + b) (a - b) = t(a - b)
a^2 - b^2 = ta - tb
a^2 - ta = b^2 - tb
a^2 - ta + (t^2)/4 = b^2 - tb + (t^2)/4
(a - t/2)^2 = (b - t/2)^2
a - t/2 = b - t/2
a = b

I think we need to start working on a counter for this ******** strategy right now before ROB becomes unplayable. : (



Edit: This is what happens when Sudai stays up late and remembers someone mentioning that it's possible to prove that a number can equal any other number in his calc class a while back, so he tried to figure it out. This proof took me about an hour and a half to come up with, but as far as I can tell, it's actually pretty solid.

 

[matricide]

i don't even remember having to prove anything like that in my calc class, lol

 

[ipitydatfu]

genius Sudai. it reminds me of the girls = evil formula, but i think we can change it into MK,D3 (and others) = evil

 

[DKKountry]

Oop, I think my brain just took a sh*t and broke. Dumb it down for me a bit. Explain it as if you were talking to a Wario user.

Just playing Warios!

 

[JonBeBonanza]

lulz w@y 2 m@ny 13373rs 4 m3 2 r3@d

lawls!!!!111one

This isn't related to brawl is it?

 

[JCaesar]

*ERRR* You can't take that square root near the end without considering all the positive and negative possibilities. You get 4 possibilites:
a - t/2 = b - t/2
-a + t/2 = -b + t/2
a - t/2 = -b + t/2
-a + t/2 = b - t/2

The first two are equivalent and give you
a = b
which is one possible answer.

The second two are equivalent and give you
a + b = t
Look familiar? It's possible that a = b, but the second one is definitely true, so nothing has been proven

QED *****

 

[0RLY]

What JCaesar007 said. I spent like 20 minutes staring at the equation on the first post, then I scrolled down and say JCaesar's post. Thanks, you just wasted 20 minutes of my life. So yeah, it's possible that a and b are equal, like 1+1=2.

 

[R.O.B.O.T.]

Nevermind.

 

[Sudai]

*ERRR* You can't take that square root near the end without considering all the positive and negative possibilities. You get 4 possibilites:
a - t/2 = b - t/2
-a + t/2 = -b + t/2
a - t/2 = -b + t/2
-a + t/2 = b - t/2

The first two are equivalent and give you
a = b
which is one possible answer.

The second two are equivalent and give you
a + b = t
Look familiar? It's possible that a = b, but the second one is definitely true, so nothing has been proven

QED *****

Bah! I knew I should have waited and gone over it again after some sleep..hah.

Oh, and we didn't have to prove that in Calc (it has nothing to do with calc, lol) the topic was just brought up by a student cause we didn't do **** in that class.

 

[CT Chia]

yea when i went through it i knew something was wrong with that step and jcaesar also found it, and even explained y lol

 

[Syde7]

Whew. Good job on correcting that Caesar. I was almost forced to put ROB away. A thousand thank yous.
Also-- good **** Sudai and Caesar on the math. I am a math Schiavo (40,000 internet monies to someone who gets the reference), so I am flabbergasted by the epic showing.

On that note, I'm more of a philosophy-esque type person. Maybe I should use that to find ROB's weakness. Hmm... come to think of it, I could reverse engineer him, and throw in a design for countering the weakness I found...
....
..
.
[-runs off to snatch up some empiricism and existential philosophy texts, and then off to the lab-]

Ok a real weakness would be that when you shoot out a gyro, the opponent just stands next to it and shields this will make it disappear.

for the sake of whatever integrity you might have gained in no more than 27 days and 23 posts... I hope you're joking.

 

[ipitydatfu]

Whew. Good job on correcting that Caesar. I was almost forced to put ROB away. A thousand thank yous.
Also-- good **** Sudai and Caesar on the math. I am a math Schiavo (40,000 internet monies to someone who gets the reference), so I am flabbergasted by the epic showing.

On that note, I'm more of a philosophy-esque type person. Maybe I should use that to find ROB's weakness. Hmm... come to think of it, I could reverse engineer him, and throw in a design for countering the weakness I found...
....
..
.
[-runs off to snatch up some empiricism and existential philosophy texts, and then off to the lab-]




for the sake of whatever integrity you might have gained in no more than 27 days and 23 posts... I hope you're joking.

Shiavo as in that brain dead woman on national television? then Shiavo i am as well. Can i has some monies ?

 

[Syde7]

Shiavo as in that brain dead woman on national television? then Shiavo i am as well. Can i has some monies ?

YUS!! MONIES FOR YOU!!!!!!!

*throws the said money*

 

[R.O.B.O.T.]

Whew. Good job on correcting that Caesar. I was almost forced to put ROB away. A thousand thank yous.
Also-- good **** Sudai and Caesar on the math. I am a math Schiavo (40,000 internet monies to someone who gets the reference), so I am flabbergasted by the epic showing.

On that note, I'm more of a philosophy-esque type person. Maybe I should use that to find ROB's weakness. Hmm... come to think of it, I could reverse engineer him, and throw in a design for countering the weakness I found...
....
..
.
[-runs off to snatch up some empiricism and existential philosophy texts, and then off to the lab-]




for the sake of whatever integrity you might have gained in no more than 27 days and 23 posts... I hope you're joking.

Yeah I see my mistake. Sorry about that.

 

[noobslayer]

a = b
a^2 = ab
a^2 + b^2 = ab + b^2
(a-b)(a+b) = b(a+b)
(a-b)=b
a=2b
a=2a
1=2
0=1
Everything = Everything?

 

[Sudai]

a = b
a^2 = ab
a^2 + b^2 = ab + b^2
(a-b)(a+b) = b(a+b)
(a-b)=b
a=2b
a=2a
1=2
0=1
Everything = Everything?

If you notice, you're saying a = b from the start though, which means that nothing equals itself.

 

[frdagaa]

a = b
a^2 = ab
a^2 + b^2 = ab + b^2
(a-b)(a+b) = b(a+b)
(a-b)=b
a=2b
a=2a
1=2
0=1
Everything = Everything?

Note that a^2+b^2 does not factor. What you wanted in your second step was to subtract b^2 from both sides, giving a^2-b^2=ab-b^2. Then....

(a-b)(a+b)=b(a-b)
a+b=b
2b=b
2=1
1=0




So, do you want to know of what this is an excellent example (maybe even proof)? Why dividing by zero is impossible. Note that when you divide by (a-b) you're dividing by (b-b), which is 0. To check where the problem becomes ****ed up, just plug in a number at the beginning and work it through. I used 2. So, after factoring, here's what we have.

(2-2)(2+2)=2(2-2)

Now, you can clearly see that by dividing by (a-b) you're dividing by 0. You can also see that at this step, both sides are 0=0, so the equation works out. The division screws it up:

2+2=2

Which is demonstrably not true. Thus dividing by 0 is a mathematically impossible procedure.

As J-seize said earlier,


QED

In other news, this is probably ROB's fatal weakness. If somehow one of the enemies is able to get him to divide by zero, the universe could very well cease to exist.

 

[DRaGZ]

Well, you can't conceptually divide by zero, but you can represent in Cartesian coordinates.

 

[Sudai]

Yeah. I'm fairly sure ROB would be fine with the whole divide by zero thing. He's intelligent enough to know he should just take the limit.

 

[JCaesar]

The only thing that confuses ROB is how Kirby turns blue, gains superpowers, and becomes an unstoppable demon from hell when he puts on a mask. **** metaknight!

 

[Sudai]

lmao. So true.

 

[YuanTi]

Fail man. Didn't even think ROB would spot that you're dividing by 0. For shame.

 

[noobslayer]

Note that a^2+b^2 does not factor. What you wanted in your second step was to subtract b^2 from both sides, giving a^2-b^2=ab-b^2. Then....

(a-b)(a+b)=b(a-b)
a+b=b
2b=b
2=1
1=0




So, do you want to know of what this is an excellent example (maybe even proof)? Why dividing by zero is impossible. Note that when you divide by (a-b) you're dividing by (b-b), which is 0. To check where the problem becomes ****ed up, just plug in a number at the beginning and work it through. I used 2. So, after factoring, here's what we have.

(2-2)(2+2)=2(2-2)

Now, you can clearly see that by dividing by (a-b) you're dividing by 0. You can also see that at this step, both sides are 0=0, so the equation works out. The division screws it up:

2+2=2

Which is demonstrably not true. Thus dividing by 0 is a mathematically impossible procedure.

As J-seize said earlier,


QED

In other news, this is probably ROB's fatal weakness. If somehow one of the enemies is able to get him to divide by zero, the universe could very well cease to exist.

Excellent analysis sir!
I did infact screw up with the factoring, but I just pulled this up out of my head from a long time ago and only gave it a cursory glance-over before posting. Also, I am aware that I can't divide by zero. It's somewhat of a trick proof; some can't figure out what's wrong because they don't realize that a-b is 0 if a=b.

 

[DanGR]

I came here looking for info about my hardest matchup.>_>

 

[TheREALShadowChaos]

R.O.B. does not have any weakness!

(A+B)^2 = A^2 + 2AB + B^2

And this simple formula proves it!

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

ROB does not worry about such trivial matters as dividing by zero.

ROB worries about love...

 

[toasty]

I think the main weakness for us ROBs is that someone can make a thread like this and THIS is the great problem that we spend time analyzing/correcting and exploring alternatives for...and not how to fix our game, lmao.

So far we've had a revelation that most larger ROB names are musicians...are we also math-heads? [not meth-heads like Nackers] **** you JCz, if I lurked more I could have taken the math-dork glory!!!

I remember discovering something in highschool calc [anti-differentiation of some combination of sin/cosin under the radical or something obscene like that]...and after 3 pages of proof, it only worked if x wasn't -3pi /4 or something like that and my teacher was like "wow..well...that's neat but, won't make you famous, unfortunately"

;____;

 

[toasty]

gahhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

[Sudai]

It seems like maybe 40% of us are Math-heads. I know I'm definitely one, even if my theorem was disproved. : (

 

[JCaesar]

Haha pwned! And I'm a ****in Latin major.

Your maths are weak.

 

[toasty]

daaamn..what's worse is that if you didn't say something he woulda gotten owned by a THEATRE MAJOR hahaha [we'll ignore that I'm, credit-wise, a senior in accounting and I just switched]

 

[Sudai]

Yeah, lets all ignore the fact that I'm a 17 year old (18 in 8 days *****es > : O ) that just finished high school?

 

[toasty]

D:

****. I feel old ;_____;

*no longer craves Sudai's oh-so-delicious and authentic gu-........oh wait, that's a lie*

 

[wazgood]

http://www.dougshaw.com/findtheerror/

 

[Sudai]

D:

****. I feel old ;_____;

*no longer craves Sudai's oh-so-delicious and authentic gu-........oh wait, that's a lie*

lol. I still make a mean gumbo. ; )

 

[ipitydatfu]

mmmm... havent had gumbo for a long time

 

[Shido]

a + b = t
(a + b) (a - b) = t(a - b)
a^2 - b^2 = ta - tb
a^2 - ta = b^2 - tb
a^2 - ta + (t^2)/4 = b^2 - tb + (t^2)/4
(a - t/2)^2 = (b - t/2)^2
a - t/2 = b - t/2
a = b

There's an error going from line two to three as (a+b)(a-b) does not in fact simplify to a^2 - b^2, but it actually factors out to a^2-ab+ab-2b which simplifies to a^2-2b.

 

[JCaesar]

Ummm no, that line was correct. (a + b) (a - b) does = a^2 - b^2.

I found the error already, look at the 6th post.

 

[Sudai]

There's an error going from line two to three as (a+b)(a-b) does not in fact simplify to a^2 - b^2, but it actually factors out to a^2-ab+ab-2b which simplifies to a^2-2b.

b * b != 2b
b * b == b^2