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Q&A Structured Query Thread - R.O.B. Q&A

ROBnWatch

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It would be funny if you would do a FFA in that stage with 4 R.O.B.'s and then that "The last of his kind" appears.



I have 2 actual R.O.B.'s + Gyromite. Sorry buddy, but I am R.O.B.'s #1 fan.You guys can compete for second place.

4 R.O.B.s, Gyromite + Stack-Up. Now who's competing for second?

Haha, just kidding. I don't have any of that. But I do agree, there's a score to be settled between R.O.B. and Ganondorf. And I think we all know who's gonna win. Come to think of it, wouldn't that mean R.O.B.'s got a bone to pick with Bowser and Master Hand too (at least in this game, since Tabuu is nowhere to be found)?
 

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I have 2 actual R.O.B.'s + Gyromite. Sorry buddy, but I am R.O.B.'s #1 fan.You guys can compete for second place.
2 R.O.B.s, gyromite and all pieces in mint condition, stack up cartridge, built a costume and cosplayed him three times and planning on doing it a fourth, a magnet of his face, pin, perler bead necklace of his smash symbol, a plate with him on it I made when I went to some pottery place, and I plan on making a hat soon.

You were saying?
 

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2 R.O.B.s, gyromite and all pieces in mint condition, stack up cartridge, built a costume and cosplayed him three times and planning on doing it a fourth, a magnet of his face, pin, perler bead necklace of his smash symbol, a plate with him on it I made when I went to some pottery place, and I plan on making a hat soon.
Well I have 2 Gyro's and his Gyro Spinner too ....

But Stack Up is too rare. I cannot get it.
 
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--doesn't necessarily "reflect" Luma, but it destroys him. rotor goes through Luma's attacks nearly 100% if the time in my experience, and the last hit of will usually knock him back pretty far off the stage, or at least to an inconvenient place where Rosalina has no choice but to try to reposition. it's a funny matchup, because she can steal your gyro with her down-b, but if you play right against her she won't ever have Luma alive or where she wants him. You're both handicapped ^___^
It does reflect Luma when she uses her Luma Launch or whatever it is called to deploy Luma though. That move changes Luma into a reflectable projectile for a short while.
 

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I just recently started to use to use R.O.B. and really enjoy his playstyle. I wanted to ask from a R.O.B. Veteran like yourself, if there are any certain setups with the gyro or the side-b I should be doing. And also, things I do not want to do at all.
you want to do the stuff in this post. I've been practicing this tech and its so satisfying to pull it off in matches.
 

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I'm thinking about picking up R.O.B as a main. What about his characteristics/attributes should I keep in mind when training as him?
 

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I'm thinking about picking up R.O.B as a main. What about his characteristics/attributes should I keep in mind when training as him?
If you don't have a gyro down on in your hands you are doing it wrong. Unless you are try for a long range gimp don't save up your laser charge. Use it before it reaches max charge, otherwise the startup is slower.
 

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2 R.O.B.s, gyromite and all pieces in mint condition, stack up cartridge, built a costume and cosplayed him three times and planning on doing it a fourth, a magnet of his face, pin, perler bead necklace of his smash symbol, a plate with him on it I made when I went to some pottery place, and I plan on making a hat soon.

You were saying?
Do you have pictures of your ROB costume or advice on how to make one? I'd like to make one sometime, but I have no clue how to make the lower half of his body without rendering myself unable to walk. X.X
 

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Damn dudes! Rosaluma nerf!

Luma now respawns after 13 seconds! That's insane, and a HUGE point in favour of R.O.B. matchups. Heck, this might push Rosaluma out of top spot cause her matchups are gonna change so radically, especially against characters like R.O.B. who kill Luma instantly with Lasers and Gyros.
 

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Damn dudes! Rosaluma nerf!

Luma now respawns after 13 seconds! That's insane, and a HUGE point in favour of R.O.B. matchups. Heck, this might push Rosaluma out of top spot cause her matchups are gonna change so radically, especially against characters like R.O.B. who kill Luma instantly with Lasers and Gyros.
Do you have a source on that?
 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjVF05k0El0

And I've read there are going to be parity updates soon for the 3DS version. Also changed is Wario's Wectoring bug - it's now gone which is a darn shame cause it was really fun. Doesn't chage my opinion of him, though, he's still solid mid tier to me.
Wow, that is one serious drought for the lumas. I expect the balance was changed due to the fact that their ability to block damage completely was overpowered..
 

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Well...3rd wave of amiibos was announced, and R.O.B. isn't there. I don't suppose they'll go over 5 waves (without including all the Smash characters first), so I assume he'll be in wave 4, though it's quite possible he'll be in wave 5 because they haven't even included all the starter characters in waves 1-3 yet.
 
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I hope that they buff R.O.B.'s ftilt to make it as in SSBB again. I miss that tilt so much.
 
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I hope that they buff R.O.B.'s ftilt to make it as in SSBB again. I miss that tilt so much.

ROB doesn't need buffs. He's borderline high tier as he is and I bet he has a pretty stable winrate online. I recently read an article about an interview Sakurai had with Famitsu where he explained Little Mac's trench-tier winrate (lowest in the game) and how he DOESN'T want to average out character stats to 'balance' the game. This is an insightful point as the Rosaluma nerf is quite big, but not major enough to drop her out of the higher tiers - it's just to prevent anything from being 'broken', which is why we see the Wectoring nerf too because that had the potential to destroy certain matchups.
 

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ROB doesn't need buffs. He's borderline high tier as he is and I bet he has a pretty stable winrate online. I recently read an article about an interview Sakurai had with Famitsu where he explained Little Mac's trench-tier winrate (lowest in the game) and how he DOESN'T want to average out character stats to 'balance' the game. This is an insightful point as the Rosaluma nerf is quite big, but not major enough to drop her out of the higher tiers - it's just to prevent anything from being 'broken', which is why we see the Wectoring nerf too because that had the potential to destroy certain matchups.
"ROB doesn't need buffs". So true. Now, if only more people would willingly play as him, he might be in the top 5.
 

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ROB doesn't need buffs. He's borderline high tier as he is and I bet he has a pretty stable winrate online. I recently read an article about an interview Sakurai had with Famitsu where he explained Little Mac's trench-tier winrate (lowest in the game) and how he DOESN'T want to average out character stats to 'balance' the game. This is an insightful point as the Rosaluma nerf is quite big, but not major enough to drop her out of the higher tiers - it's just to prevent anything from being 'broken', which is why we see the Wectoring nerf too because that had the potential to destroy certain matchups.
I think the number of characters who need actual nerfs is rather small, but a lot of characters could use some minor buffs.
 

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ROB doesn't need buffs. He's borderline high tier as he is and I bet he has a pretty stable winrate online. I recently read an article about an interview Sakurai had with Famitsu where he explained Little Mac's trench-tier winrate (lowest in the game) and how he DOESN'T want to average out character stats to 'balance' the game. This is an insightful point as the Rosaluma nerf is quite big, but not major enough to drop her out of the higher tiers - it's just to prevent anything from being 'broken', which is why we see the Wectoring nerf too because that had the potential to destroy certain matchups.
I am not saying that he does. I am just saying that I would like his old ftilt back. I would not mind a nerf to compensate.

It is just that I liked abusing his old ftilt.
 
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I am not saying that he needs buf

I am not saying that he does. I am just saying that I would like his old ftilt back. I would not mind a nerf to compensate.

It is just that I liked abusing his old ftilt.
You guys must be using a different controller if you use the F-tilt THAT much. I use Wiimote held sideways, and it's pretty hard to land ANY F-tilt or U-tilt with it. D-tilt can be done simply by crouching and attacking, but F-tilts and U-tilts were pretty hard to use. So, in all honesty, I don't really mind that his F-tilt has been nerfed, I'm probably just going to be annoying opponents with Gyros, Lasers, and Forward Smashes, with a few good Up-smashes and D-tilts thrown in there too. Not to mention how much I'll be using his aerials to my advantage...

Heck, other than his F-tilt and U-tilt, I'll probably be using his entire arsenal to my advantage.
 
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I use Wiimote held sideways
lolwot gamecube 4 lyf

You have a point though - it's just a matter of adjusting to his new build, which I've done fine with because I never mained ROB in Brawl, and with his smashes the way they are (down smash in particular, that move is godlike) there's little reason to rely on tilts. Mind you, a couple down tilts in a row followed by a dash attack are never misplaced.
 

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You guys must be using a different controller if you use the F-tilt THAT much. I use Wiimote held sideways, and it's pretty hard to land ANY F-tilt or U-tilt with it. D-tilt can be done simply by crouching and attacking, but F-tilts and U-tilts were pretty hard to use. So, in all honesty, I don't really mind that his F-tilt has been nerfed, I'm probably just going to be annoying opponents with Gyros, Lasers, and Forward Smashes, with a few good Up-smashes and D-tilts thrown in there too. Not to mention how much I'll be using his aerials to my advantage...

Heck, other than his F-tilt and U-tilt, I'll probably be using his entire arsenal to my advantage.
You missed so much. But yeah I used the GC controller.
 

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You missed so much. But yeah I used the GC controller.
Eh, I never had a GC controller, the first time I ever even played a Smash game (Brawl) was at my cousin's house, and he took the GC controller, not that it mattered, he gave me a Wiimote and I just learned the controls from there. Back then, I honestly didn't even know about the Smash series, so I didn't know the GC controller was the pro way of playing the game.

But back to the topic at hand (Insert random question about R.O.B. here to get back on topic).
 

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[quote="ROBnWatch, post: 17977295, member: 259639"But back to the topic at hand (Insert random question about R.O.B. here to get back on topic).[/quote]

(Response to said question)

So has anyone found any new combo strings for ROB? Aside from Pummel-Uair and Dtilt-Dtilt-DA-Fair there isn't much unless one brings Gyros into the equation.
 

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(Response to said question)

So has anyone found any new combo strings for ROB? Aside from Pummel-Uair and Dtilt-Dtilt-DA-Fair there isn't much unless one brings Gyros into the equation.
at lower percents, I have been able to get a few combos off of R.O.B's dash attack, like dash-fsmash or usmash
I can usually get an uair off of a utilt, and at lower percents I can put utilt into usmash or utilt-utilt-uair
 

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Eh, I never had a GC controller, the first time I ever even played a Smash game (Brawl) was at my cousin's house, and he took the GC controller, not that it mattered, he gave me a Wiimote and I just learned the controls from there. Back then, I honestly didn't even know about the Smash series, so I didn't know the GC controller was the pro way of playing the game.

But back to the topic at hand (Insert random question about R.O.B. here to get back on topic).
Well it did matter because dashing took longer for you and you could not tilt well. It is as if he had a swordfight with you but instead of a sword gave you a dead stinky fish.
 

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Well it did matter because dashing took longer for you and you could not tilt well. It is as if he had a swordfight with you but instead of a sword gave you a dead stinky fish.
Meh. I like the way I play better than the GC controller, but we all have our own opinions. Heck, for Smash Wii U, I'm not even going to get one of the Smash exclusive GC controllers, and I'm not gonna be using the Gamepad either. I've already got my controller of choice.

In case you haven't seen/heard, G&W is getting both Flat Zone 2 AND the original Flat Zone from Melee. So...G&W (although very cool) gets 2 stages and we get nada? Thoughts?
 

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Meh. I like the way I play better than the GC controller, but we all have our own opinions. Heck, for Smash Wii U, I'm not even going to get one of the Smash exclusive GC controllers, and I'm not gonna be using the Gamepad either. I've already got my controller of choice.

In case you haven't seen/heard, G&W is getting both Flat Zone 2 AND the original Flat Zone from Melee. So...G&W (although very cool) gets 2 stages and we get nada? Thoughts?
Well, for the controller thing, I used to use the wiimote, and I found it very confining when I wanted to improve my playstyle. thrust me when I say this: If you play smash very actively, you will find yourself being disrupted by input errors, and you will chafe your thumb. If you are a casual player, then neither of those will pose much of a problem.

And yes I heard about G&W getting two stages. It was leaked. Meanwhile we find that Wrecking crew has the Gyromite song, as well as being listed as ROB's home stage( which is debatable I'm sure). If it really is his home stage though, then at least we could say it's his occupation.
 

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[quote="ROBnWatch, post: 17977295, member: 259639"But back to the topic at hand (Insert random question about R.O.B. here to get back on topic).
(Response to said question)

So has anyone found any new combo strings for ROB? Aside from Pummel-Uair and Dtilt-Dtilt-DA-Fair there isn't much unless one brings Gyros into the equation.[/quote]
I found that 2x-3x Dtilt --> Gyro and Dash attack --> Fair --> Dtilt works wonders. I think jab --> Fsmash or Dsmash works at lower percents as well. (Not to sure with that one)
 

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(Response to said question)

So has anyone found any new combo strings for ROB? Aside from Pummel-Uair and Dtilt-Dtilt-DA-Fair there isn't much unless one brings Gyros into the equation.
I found that 2x-3x Dtilt --> Gyro and Dash attack --> Fair --> Dtilt works wonders. I think jab --> Fsmash or Dsmash works at lower percents as well. (Not to sure with that one)[/quote]

I'll have to try it out for myself once I get the Wii U version, which may not be until around Christmas. :(

Also, looking at your signature, nice to meet another R.O.B. + Mr. G&W fan.
 

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I found that 2x-3x Dtilt --> Gyro and Dash attack --> Fair --> Dtilt works wonders. I think jab --> Fsmash or Dsmash works at lower percents as well. (Not to sure with that one)
I'll have to try it out for myself once I get the Wii U version, which may not be until around Christmas. :(

Also, looking at your signature, nice to meet another R.O.B. + Mr. G&W fan.[/quote]

Yeah R.O.B. and Mr. G&W were my favorite characters in brawl. Though honestly I'm having a tough time with Mr. G&W. He just doesn't seem as good as he used to and I feel like I'm not using him right but I won't give up on him. Also off-topic but where can I vs. other R.O.B. users?

P.S: I like your avatar!
 
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I'll have to try it out for myself once I get the Wii U version, which may not be until around Christmas. :(

Also, looking at your signature, nice to meet another R.O.B. + Mr. G&W fan.
Yeah R.O.B. and Mr. G&W were my favorite characters in brawl. Though honestly I'm having a tough time with Mr. G&W. He just doesn't seem as good as he used to and I feel like I'm not using him right but I won't give up on him. Also off-topic but where can I vs. other R.O.B. users?

P.S: I like your avatar![/quote]

Haha, thanks. Ya, there's been some issues with G&W, but those are being discussed in his thread.

I think R.O.B. looks pretty good in this game, probably top 10 material. And 10/51? That's PRETTY GOOD. Thoughts?
 
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Yeah R.O.B. and Mr. G&W were my favorite characters in brawl. Though honestly I'm having a tough time with Mr. G&W. He just doesn't seem as good as he used to and I feel like I'm not using him right but I won't give up on him. Also off-topic but where can I vs. other R.O.B. users?

P.S: I like your avatar!
Haha, thanks. Ya, there's been some issues with G&W, but those are being discussed in his thread.

I think R.O.B. looks pretty good in this game, probably top 10 material. And 10/51? That's PRETTY GOOD. Thoughts?[/quote]

Yeah I think R.O.B. is a solid character in this game though I know this is going to sound weird but I liked him better in Brawl. Honestly I think he might be in the top 15 or at least top 20. I feel many people don't give him a chance and underestimate his abilities. R.O.B. definitely has potential and hopefully we can learn more about him in the upcoming months.
 

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Haha, thanks. Ya, there's been some issues with G&W, but those are being discussed in his thread.

I think R.O.B. looks pretty good in this game, probably top 10 material. And 10/51? That's PRETTY GOOD. Thoughts?
Yeah I think R.O.B. is a solid character in this game though I know this is going to sound weird but I liked him better in Brawl. Honestly I think he might be in the top 15 or at least top 20. I feel many people don't give him a chance and underestimate his abilities. R.O.B. definitely has potential and hopefully we can learn more about him in the upcoming months.[/quote]

Well, I guess everyone has their preferences. Personally, I try out every character in the game, and see what areas I'm good at playing them in, what areas the character is good in, and try to use that to my likings. R.O.B. just happened to fit the bill. It's also probable that, once people see him in a tournament environment, they may start to gravitate toward him, depending on his results. If he finishes pretty good, we may see him in a rightful top 15-1 spot, but if we don't get good tourney results, we may see him anywhere from 25-10.
 

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Some combos (that register as actual combos in training mode) I found when playing around today:

-Uthrow, Usmash. Only at very low percentage (Max 9% vs Mario, but only at 8% consistently), can be vectored out of (or misses unless at 0%) unless you dash first. Fair or Uair also works instead at slightly higher percentages. (25/19/22% damage)

-Bthrow, (Almost) instant Dash Attack. At 0% it worked on Mario and Bowser, but not Pit. Can string into Fair afterwards by dashing into jump, but it's not a combo. (17% damage)

-Point blank Dash Attack, Utilt, Utilt. They can proably vector out of the 2nd utilt though. Can pursuit with Uair, but it's not a combo. (10-23% damage, depending on if you get 1 or 2 utilts, and how many hits you get, which varies with how high % they have)

-Close-hitting Dash Attack, Fair. This is an actual combo from 44% to 74% (On Mario)(40% is also around where utilt starts hitting only once or not at all), requires you to do Fair instantly from the ground though (Slightly delayed on higher %), and not short hop. On higher percentages you can actually combo a 2nd Fair after the first one if they vector poorly, otherwise it's still your best pursuit option. (14-21% Damage)

Here's some quick combos involving these:
-(At 0%) SH late-hitting Nair, Dash Attack, Uair (23%)
-(At 0%) SH late-hitting Nair, Grab, Uthrow, dash Usmash (33%)(Doesn't say grab combos, but it's faster than Fsmash (which combos), so I assume it's only an issue with the combo counter in training mode)
-(At 40%) Tripping Dtilt, Dash Attack, Fair (19%)
-(At 0%) Tripping Dtilt, Grab, Bthrow, Dash Attack (22%)
 

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Well well well well


Lets just say no need to grind trophy rush anymore.
That's good news, considering I don't have the game yet. Guess I'm gonna need some gold or some passes though...eh once I unlock R.O.B. I'll be pounding the entire roster down. I'll get that gold soon enough.
 
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