Strange Urges

[StealthyGunnar]

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After replying to AG's thread, I realized that it was time to post a blog about these... urges I have been having lately.

These urges, if you can call them that, usually only have to do with me or my possessions. For example, some urges I may have are jumping over a ledge 30 feet high, throwing my cell phone out the window or over a high ledge, and probably the most disturbing, kissing a random person.

Label me as a crazy person, insane, whatever. I don't really care at this point. Though I never really act on these urges, they still occur randomly, throughout the day even though I keep dismissing them. Though these urges sometimes put my life at risk, I never find myself getting particularly scared though I could possibly die. It's like my mind just wanders and comes up with ludicrous ideas on its own accord.

I'm not sure if my mind is just bored, or I have hidden psychological issues. I remember hearing that intelligent people often have psychological issues. Referring to the previous statement, I consider myself above average intelligence. (I maintain a 4.0 gpa in school, and my IQ is in the top 5th percentile in the nation.)

I'm not so much afraid of these urges as I am confused as to why they are happening. If anyone has had these urges, or anything of the like, I would like some advice. And even if you haven't had these urges, any input is appreciated..

 

[Zook]

I'm pretty sure that everyone has weird urges like that, and most people just don't discuss them openly.

I have a couple weird urges that happen every now and then. If I see someone holding a baby, the thought of how easy it would be to drop it pops into my mind. It makes me a bit nervous to hold kids.

Another one is when I'm on an amusement ride or in a car going through a narrow pass, I'll start wondering about what it would look like from my perspective if I were to stick my arm or leg or head out of the side and let it catch part of the ride/whatever and get torn off. The urge is always there, but I ignore it.

...I feel weird talking about this. lol I suspect that these urges are far more frequent/strong in other people, and that makes them seem 'different.'

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Yeah, they are normal.

It's common for people to look over a cliff and have the strange urge to jump off

Edit: I found the reason. It's caused by fears

If you have a strong fear of something, you can have an urge to do something to end the fear

 

[Browny]

Yeah sounds kinda normal though... to me at least rofl. I have weird urges to push things until they break even if I know im going to regret it if/when it does. also agree with it is common, people just dont talk about it.

Like seeing how far I can push the power button down on my computer before it turns off, of course when it does, I have to deal with 'system was shut down unexpectedly' etc.
Putting rings that I know are too small on my fingers, just to see if they will get stuck.
throwing my smartphone into the air, imparting a lot of spin on it to see how many times i can clap before catching it
and my favourite, seeing how far i could tip a full frozen coke on its side until it all falls out over the table...

but theres some things im ultra-conservative with. Like I take corners REALLY slowly in my car, no one I know goes as slow as I do. Despite having a computer with a ton of overclocking potential i have never, and I dont intend on ever overclocking it past its stock speed. Its interesting what you say about intelligence vs these strange urges since I too am up there (top 2%) and I certainly dont know people who arent in that percentile, who do stupid stuff like me...

As for advice though, I got nothing A lot of people have weird thougts they just dont make people aware of it. Just dont do stuff that is going to impact on anyone else's life and you'll be fine.

 

[Zook]

What is it with people on this site and knowing their IQ/being great students? lol I personally don't know anyone in my area who has had an actual IQ test.

 

[Fried Ice Cream]

What is it with people on this site and knowing their IQ/being great students? lol I personally don't know anyone in my area who has had an actual IQ test.

Often when people on the internet state their IQ, it's not a legit IQ test, it's just some internet test >_>.

According to that, my IQ is supposed to be 143, and I'm sure it's not that.

 

[3747373796432]

@ Zook

i experience that all the time, i'm constantly observing ways people could die or how i could kill them for absolutely no reason at all. :/ but of course i don't do anything about it fortunately. and i constantly wonder how i would feel if a friend of mine died or if one their friends died, and all the time i end up thinking that it'd just be another day gone by for me, leaving me feeling guilty.

 

[StealthyGunnar]

What is it with people on this site and knowing their IQ/being great students? lol I personally don't know anyone in my area who has had an actual IQ test.

I was administered an IQ test while looking at different high schools with my parents. That was about 2 years ago..

Yeah sounds kinda normal though... to me at least rofl. I have weird urges to push things until they break even if I know im going to regret it if/when it does. also agree with it is common, people just dont talk about it.

Like seeing how far I can push the power button down on my computer before it turns off, of course when it does, I have to deal with 'system was shut down unexpectedly' etc.
Putting rings that I know are too small on my fingers, just to see if they will get stuck.
throwing my smartphone into the air, imparting a lot of spin on it to see how many times i can clap before catching it
and my favourite, seeing how far i could tip a full frozen coke on its side until it all falls out over the table...

but theres some things im ultra-conservative with. Like I take corners REALLY slowly in my car, no one I know goes as slow as I do. Despite having a computer with a ton of overclocking potential i have never, and I dont intend on ever overclocking it past its stock speed. Its interesting what you say about intelligence vs these strange urges since I too am up there (top 2%) and I certainly dont know people who arent in that percentile, who do stupid stuff like me...

As for advice though, I got nothing A lot of people have weird thougts they just dont make people aware of it. Just dont do stuff that is going to impact on anyone else's life and you'll be fine.

Thanks again... But it's like I said: I'm not so much afraid of these urges as I am confused that they are happening. Someone said fears, but oddly enough, I don't think I'm afraid of anything. :l

 

[Fuelbi]

I have a couple weird urges that happen every now and then. If I see someone holding a baby, the thought of how easy it would be to drop it pops into my mind. It makes me a bit nervous to hold kids.

It reminds me when I see a baby and I get the urge to bash his face in with something... even though I don't hate babies and I don't do **** about it.

I also get the strange urge to punch a little kid in the face if he's crying and I want him to shut up. I just feel like punching him until he bleeds or something.

I'm not sure if that's my hatred for kids or if that's just one of my urges though :/

On another less violent and probably psychologically breaking note, I also get the urges to break things and and kiss people randomly sometimes :/

 

[Supreme Dirt]

I know my IQ. It's rather high. I'm also a terrible student.


Anyways... yeah I definitely have urges <3

Nah but seriously, it's fully normal.

 

[Alien Vision]

Cash, who is AG? >________________________________________________________>

Interesting read everyone. I was right that people do have these urges underneath their rational side they portray everyday though. I don't think it's fear Psycho, I think it has something to do with our negative side wanting to pertrude into our reality; be it a very complex way. We've seen how fear works, and how it affects us. When it comes to these urges, there is no fear. It's more of a ''What if I completely went insane, and did this?'' Our minds are curious about chaos aswell it seems.

It's very hard to say anything now though. I will explain more of my personal ideas on this particular subject if more people talk about their experiences with these urges. It's very intriguing, and I see everyone no different then I did before. Wait a minute..

It's not fear when it comes to what we do in these urges, it's fear of having people see this chaos pertruding through our rational thoughts! We are scared to be seen when it comes to our mysterious side, that likes chaos, and questions the opposite of rationality.

Omg.. I think I am close to figuring out why these urges happen. I think our instincts, and our ability to be chaotic, neutral, and peaceful (just like mother nature) is able to rise from our rational mind. It can't be fear.. Because we have serial killers who have no remorse for their actions. They actually do what we think in a rigid manner.

Cash, please respond to this, I need someone to bounce ideas off of. It's watered down right now, but I think I am onto something.

 

[StealthyGunnar]

Cash, who is AG? >________________________________________________________>

Interesting read everyone. I was right that people do have these urges underneath their rational side they portray everyday though. I don't think it's fear Psycho, I think it has something to do with our negative side wanting to pertrude into our reality; be it a very complex way. We've seen how fear works, and how it affects us. When it comes to these urges, there is no fear. It's more of a ''What if I completely went insane, and did this?'' Our minds are curious about chaos aswell it seems.

It's very hard to say anything now though. I will explain more of my personal ideas on this particular subject if more people talk about their experiences with these urges. It's very intriguing, and I see everyone no different then I did before. Wait a minute..

It's not fear when it comes to what we do in these urges, it's fear of having people see this chaos pertruding through our rational thoughts! We are scared to be seen when it comes to our mysterious side, that likes chaos, and questions the opposite of rationality.

Omg.. I think I am close to figuring out why these urges happen. I think our instincts, and our ability to be chaotic, neutral, and peaceful (just like mother nature) is able to rise from our rational mind. It can't be fear.. Because we have serial killers who have no remorse for their actions. They actually do what we think in a rigid manner.

Cash, please respond to this, I need someone to bounce ideas off of. It's watered down right now, but I think I am onto something.

I'm not sure what is causing these urges, but the more I think about it, I keep leaning toward boredom. Our minds, though we might be doing some sort of action physically, are bored to a certain extent. I believe when we reach that degree of boredness, our minds start throwing out these urge so that we act on them. Doing so, though it might be a risk to our lives or have, ultimately, consequences, they are still something to get rid of the boredom.

I don't believe we are "crazy" or "insane" for having these urges, since many people have commented on this blog. More testing needs to be done on the mind to discover the purpose and genesis of these "normal urges."

 

[Alien Vision]

Ahh, yes, boredom is an interesting culprit. Let me ask you a few questions though.

1. Why are these thoughts so dark, and morbid? How does boredom have anything to do with these urges? (I've had them while doing things before, that occupied me.) If you also think about it, it's not just these thoughts that surface into our reality. We have other urges that make themselves known that are less of an action, but more of a part of us that we try to ignore. I'm sure we've all had a moment in time we just wanted to explode for no reason, and this really isn't about what we want to do just because we are bored. It's more of an outlet that we want to commit to, but don't want to, because we would be acknowledging the ''other'' side of ourselves. (This is what I think. Anyways.)

2. Do you even believe in boredom? In my thread (that everyone thought was more trolling) indeed holds an interesting concept underneath it all. I believe that boredom is an illusion. Why do I think of this? Let me explain this. Boredom is this mood we feel when we aren't occupied. We want something more than what we already have, because it's ''boring''. We want excitement, and our adrenaline to be pumping. We want to do alot of otherwordly things I think. We want to be alive. Yet, I've also noticed that different things please different people. Thus, our boredom is created by our lack of energy, or activity in our lives. Which is a part of us, right?
Now this is when things get really interesting. When you look at a philosopher, and how, erm, grey they can be, and then look at someone who lives a wild life with drugs, sex, the whole nine yards. Their terms of boredom are the complete opposite. The philosopher wants to embark on more fallacious adventures and thinks the ''wild life'' is pointless. The person who lives a crazy life can't stand the ''deep knowledge of life'', they just want to party! Then, there is the rare individual. (What? I've yet to find anyone who doesn't believe in boredom like I do D: ) I don't believe in boredom. I've always kept myself active in anyway possible, and at the same time I don't mind sitting in a room with nothing to do but think about the many concepts of life. So does boredom really exist? Or is boredom just another psychological illusion that is trolling us?

You decide! *Plays jeopardy theme*

P.S I enjoy bouncing ideas off of you Cash. You have some interesting ideas yourself :D. Just so you know.

 

[Vinylic.]

I get the urge to throw a bed in the grand canyon....

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

I shouldn't have read this blog -_- I had the urge to try snapping my neck again (read too much Inheritance Cycle I think). Also those fears of dying are coming back. Also, I have had that with jumping off high things too.

In my opinion, its curiosity about the unknown. You always hear stories about these things you should never try such as dangerous stunts. However, I think the unknown in combination with something dangerous or wrong puts a strong sense of curiosity in you about trying it out anyway. To finally say you did it, then move on. That's happened to me a lot like at a younger age, where I finally did jump off a swing at apex of its arc. After that, I never really had that strong urge again to try because I had already done it.

 

[Alien Vision]

^ Interesting!

 

[StealthyGunnar]

Curiosity as well as boredom are (could be) both factors in these strange urges. I'm going to do some more research!

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

Did you go to the last GnG tourney in Rosedale around late july?

 

[Omnicron's Baklava Enterprises]

I've been itching to say this so I'm going to scratch that itch.

I absolutely ****ing hate it when people mention in their posts, or anywhere for that matter, about how smart they are or what their GPA is.

No, I'm not a person that has low grades or anything, but I really don't like it.

Spoiler

Yes, it makes me jelly and I don't like feeling jelly.

 

[Alien Vision]

Well. Isn't GPA more on following the directions of everything, and being book smart though?

I got straight F's in school, and I am quite a bright fellow. So why so jelly?

 

[Browny]

Curiosity is an obvious answer, humans are curious creatures. some people want to know what would happen if they killed someone, some people want to see how many shots they can down before passing out (every single weekend...)

I'll disagree on boredom though. I know plenty of people who get just as, if not more bored than me often and while yes they dont specifically tell me about any strange urges they have, I have no reason to believe they have any (more than me).

I think theres far too many variants of these urges (you could go all the way up to suicidal urges vs completely harmless ones) to all be simply lumped into a few categories. The brain is very complex, trying to figure this out probably wont make you feel too much better imo.

 

[DTP]

Interesting blog.

Some scary urges going on though.

 

[StealthyGunnar]

Did you go to the last GnG tourney in Rosedale around late july?

this july? not this year. last year tho.

I've been itching to say this so I'm going to scratch that itch.

I absolutely ****ing hate it when people mention in their posts, or anywhere for that matter, about how smart they are or what their GPA is.

No, I'm not a person that has low grades or anything, but I really don't like it.

Spoiler

Yes, it makes me jelly and I don't like feeling jelly.

Oh well. I'm not in any place to boast, just trying to prove a point. But I have free will, so it is what it is.

Well. Isn't GPA more on following the directions of everything, and being book smart though?

I got straight F's in school, and I am quite a bright fellow. So why so jelly?

I take pride in my intelligence. I'm not jelly. And neither is Omnicron.

Interesting blog.

Some scary urges going on though.

Nothing to be DEATHLY afraid of. See what I did there?

I just wish I could figure out with these urges are occurring. More research needs to be done.

 

[Omnicron's Baklava Enterprises]

I'm not jelly. And neither is Omnicron.

Yes, it makes me jelly and I don't like feeling jelly.

Reading isn't your forte obv.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

Yeah sometimes **** like this happens to me but it passes quickly. It's odd because few things legitimately scare me. My GPA is 6.4 and my IQ is 268 so that might have something to do with it.

 

[Omnicron's Baklava Enterprises]

I tell ya hwat that ain't funny.

 

[Zook]

Ahh, yes, boredom is an interesting culprit. Let me ask you a few questions though.

1. Why are these thoughts so dark, and morbid? How does boredom have anything to do with these urges? (I've had them while doing things before, that occupied me.) If you also think about it, it's not just these thoughts that surface into our reality. We have other urges that make themselves known that are less of an action, but more of a part of us that we try to ignore. I'm sure we've all had a moment in time we just wanted to explode for no reason, and this really isn't about what we want to do just because we are bored. It's more of an outlet that we want to commit to, but don't want to, because we would be acknowledging the ''other'' side of ourselves. (This is what I think. Anyways.)

Not all of these thoughts are morbid. Several people mentioned having pretty tame ones (kissing people, pushing a bed into the Grand Canyon [lol whaaaat], etc.). I didn't mention my tame ones because they aren't interesting to read/write about.

2. Do you even believe in boredom? In my thread (that everyone thought was more trolling) indeed holds an interesting concept underneath it all. I believe that boredom is an illusion. Why do I think of this? Let me explain this. Boredom is this mood we feel when we aren't occupied. We want something more than what we already have, because it's ''boring''. We want excitement, and our adrenaline to be pumping. We want to do alot of otherwordly things I think. We want to be alive. Yet, I've also noticed that different things please different people. Thus, our boredom is created by our lack of energy, or activity in our lives. Which is a part of us, right?
Now this is when things get really interesting. When you look at a philosopher, and how, erm, grey they can be, and then look at someone who lives a wild life with drugs, sex, the whole nine yards. Their terms of boredom are the complete opposite. The philosopher wants to embark on more fallacious adventures and thinks the ''wild life'' is pointless. The person who lives a crazy life can't stand the ''deep knowledge of life'', they just want to party! Then, there is the rare individual. (What? I've yet to find anyone who doesn't believe in boredom like I do D: ) I don't believe in boredom. I've always kept myself active in anyway possible, and at the same time I don't mind sitting in a room with nothing to do but think about the many concepts of life. So does boredom really exist? Or is boredom just another psychological illusion that is trolling us?

I highly doubt there is anyone (even you) who is never bored. Different situations are boring to different people, yes; I'm not sure what the point of that silly comparison was.

 

[Alien Vision]

Zook, I meant: The fact that we have morbid thoughts in the first place when it comes to these urges is what I was trying to say. I'm aware of the other urges.

Really now? I'm not going to argue with your opinion. I just wished you backed it up better than assuming that I do get bored; when I just explained how I've been questioning the very existence of the term ''boredom''.

That comparison is to give you an idea that boredom isn't a thing. It derives from people's interests, and when that interest isn't met they are ''bored''. Meaning, our boredom is only in our minds in the end. If we accept what we have, we can't get bored because no matter how little an activity is, we accept it for what it is. This is what I personally think of the term ''boredom'', and how to stop it from existing in our lives.

@ People in General

I don't think it's fear, boredom, or curiosity. I personally think our instincts are pertruding into our rational reality somehow. We are hiding instincts, it's not like we were able to erase them. We all have a primitive side in all of us, and maybe somehow our negativity is entangling itself with our instincts, thus creates a void of imagination of morbid things, or things that oppose rationality.

@ Cash

I wasn't saying anything to belittle you. I'm stating that grades really determine how well we follow directions and are book smart. Doesn't mean you are dumb in everything else. I told you how I enjoy discussing things with you, did I not?

 

[StealthyGunnar]

Reading isn't your forte obv.

Oddly enough, I hate reading. Yet I scored 100% in that category. >_>

EDIT: I understand, AV. I'm going to respond to this again later. I'm just way too tired right now.

 

[Zook]

Zook, I meant: The fact that we have morbid thoughts in the first place when it comes to these urges is what I was trying to say. I'm aware of the other urges.

Really now? I'm not going to argue with your opinion. I just wished you backed it up better than assuming that I do get bored; when I just explained how I've been questioning the very existence of the term ''boredom''.

Boredom is a pretty basic emotion. It's safe to assume that most of the population experiences basic emotions from time to time.

That comparison is to give you an idea that boredom isn't a thing. It derives from people's interests, and when that interest isn't met they are ''bored''. Meaning, our boredom is only in our minds in the end. If we accept what we have, we can't get bored because no matter how little an activity is, we accept it for what it is. This is what I personally think of the term ''boredom'', and how to stop it from existing in our lives.

Well yeah, all emotions are subjective. I wouldn't say that boredom is entirely a negative thing, though; boredom gives us motivation to do things, to create things, to ponder things. When a person has some 'down time' (ex waiting for something, doing a simple task, hanging around their house, etc.), they generally experience one of three emotions: relaxation, apathy, and boredom. If relaxation is satisfaction with one's environment and apathy is complete and utter disengagement from one's environment, boredom is dissatisfaction with one's environment.

I don't think it's fear, boredom, or curiosity. I personally think our instincts are pertruding into our rational reality somehow. We are hiding instincts, it's not like we were able to erase them. We all have a primitive side in all of us, and maybe somehow our negativity is entangling itself with our instincts, thus creates a void of imagination of morbid things, or things that oppose rationality.

This is probably part of the cause, too. It explains sexual urges pretty well.

 

[StealthyGunnar]

This is probably part of the cause, too. It explains sexual urges pretty well.

I can agree to instincts being a cause. But isn't one instinct to survive? Why then do I and others have urges of killing ourselves?

 

[Alien Vision]

^ Interesting.. I have a few words for that.

There will be times during our lives where we say things about ourselves that we disapprove of. We are able to have a very discrete judgment of ourselves--in a negative way--that could somehow be getting twisted with two things:

Instincts

Reality

I'm not entirely sure, but. The more someone doesn't see how amazing they can be as a human being, the more powerful their negative judgment becomes, and the more realistic it becomes. Which leads to damaging ourselves. Like drinking, smoking, etc. Don't quote me on this though. I'm just putting ideas out there for you to bounce your own ideas off of.

By thinking negative of ourselves, and not caring to survive when we really aren't facing death.. I believe it's somehow ''overriding'' the basic survival instinct.

 

[StealthyGunnar]

I don't know about anybody else, but I feel great about myself as of late. Confident, positive attitude, etc. I don't see myself as negative at all.

It would seem that during those life-threatening situations, you'd think that instinct would take over. It does in animals. Humans are considered animals, so it would only make sense. But I guess I can understand not caring about death overriding our "instinct response." That could very possibly be true.

Still, I just can't get away from boredom or throw the idea of boredom away. Boredom and curiosity could be going hand-in-hand with these urges. I think this because most of these urges are not life threatening, like throwing my cell phone out of the care for no apparent reason.

 

[Alien Vision]

An idea came across me early this morning while holding scissors in my hand. Of course I had strange thoughts flood my thoughts, and I realised. There could be possibility that our subconscious is brewing negativity, but our rationality; conscious mind isn't able to be aware of it.

Wanting to kiss somebody can come from a negative thing called lust, may it be discrete.

Wanting to jump off the edge could quite possibly be the fact we all are pretty numb to pain, and death. Especially if you don't cry, or fear weakness.

Wanting to do morbid things to somebody could be two possibilities:

Possibility 1 - That person is subconsciously reminding you of somebody, or something, and your mind creates negative impulses towards it--even if we are rational at the time--due to that person or thing that they remind you of caused you discomfort.

Possibility 2 - We have hidden emotions brewing inside us. Remember how I told you how our mind is brilliant and is able to ''hide'' things that hurt us? From our memories, to our past, to our very own emotions itself, aswell as the dark side of ourselves. Could be a possibility it's not as ''hidden'' as we think, and it's finding a way to pertrude into our rational reality. Our anger that we've cooped up inside of us could be making our mind create imaginary outlets for us to relieve stress. Even if we aren't acting on it, maybe that negativity goes away when we tell ourselves that we wouldn't do such a horrible thing. Omg this is really complicated! Let me put this like this:

We are hiding an underground tsunami of negative emotions mentally.

Our mind is finding a way to create an outlet to neutralise the negativity that is in us.

That or..

It's brewing inside us so much, that our mind can't stop it from pertruding into our reality. (Which explains why there are serial killers, rapists, and people who actually commit what we imagine ourselves doing. Which also explains kissing, because lust comes from our primitive urges)

It seems, that the major things we imagine may soon become our reality if we lose our rationality. Which happens to people who've lost everything. I can see how they would become the ''monster''. I personally think we are born good. The complexity of our emotions, all of the different viewpoints that is in this world, how hard it is to find right from wrong, and all of the corruption on top of all that is what makes us lose face in what is really there. Life is a labyrinth with no ending. We are our own light and shadow. Alot of people tend to choose either side. That is when it becomes a war with those in our reality, aswell as within ourselves.

 

[Alien Vision]

Yea I totally agree!

 

[Vermanubis]

One thing I wanna say regarding psychological conjecture is that distant Freudian extrapolations such as attributing compulsions/urges to boredom are almost never the case, if ever. Contrary to popular belief, the psyche actually makes itself very plain--the unconscious and subconscious mind are a great deal more reasonable than what some may believe. There's often a very strong reason for us doing what we do and feeling what we feel rather than a fleeting vestige.

It sounds like mild obsessive-compulsive disorder. One of the primary tenets of OCD is obsessive/intrusive thoughts that involve doing unpleasant/embarrassing things that are completely alien to one's character or intentions. I have OCD and this is exactly what I experience.

 

[StealthyGunnar]

This is very possible. Quick question, are they inheritable, like genetic?

 

[Vermanubis]

Exclusively! OCD is something you're born with and it has a wide spectrum of severity. I definitely feel that what you're feeling is a product not of psychological unrest, rather, neurological (which is primarily what OCD is).

 

[Alien Vision]

^ I agree all of that.

I even said boredom wasn't the case!

I feel so smart. (Not really XD)

 

[StealthyGunnar]

^ I agree all of that.

I even said boredom wasn't the case!

I feel so smart. (Not really XD)

Lol, I bet you do (not really?). I guess it is genetic then.