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Steve Rocks Smash! Steve (and Alex) Social Thread

Smashoperatingbuddy123

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There’s something your all forgetting

Vergeben streak is dead and lost creditablity

He said we would see the square rep first and we got joker imstead
 

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There’s something your all forgetting

Vergeben streak is dead and lost creditablity

He said we would see the square rep first and we got joker imstead
He said that the Minecraft representation would be a boss...

So even if he's wrong, Steve is very well still on the table...

Please, no need to troll here. We've already received quite enough of it...
You don't see us Steve supporters going in the Banjo support thread to hate on him, do you?
 
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Smashoperatingbuddy123

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He said that the Minecraft representation would be a boss...

So even if he's wrong, Steve is very well still on the table...

Please, no need to troll here. We've already received quite enough of it...
You don't see us Steve supporters going in the Banjo support thread to hate on him, do you?
No trolling I’m just making sure you all remembered that

But how is Steve more likely is the Vergeben thing the whole reason this all started?
 

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No trolling I’m just making sure you all remembered that

But how is Steve more likely is the Vergeben thing the whole reason this all started?
Not really at all. While any character will get a boost in support from a leak or hoax (best example being Mach Rider where everyone came out to support him during at then end of October to completely drop him after the Grinch hoax was confirmed false), you are forgetting how massive Minecraft is in gaming.

Completely disregarding all "leaks," there is a lot going for Steve.

First up is just how successful the game is, second only to Tetris, which means it has a huge reach for potential sales and hype with the gigantic audience it has had over the last decade. It's still going on strong today, dominating the Switch's Japanese purchases just this summer. While older gamers may scoff at it, there's no denying that DLC would sell like hot cakes with the younger, ie primary Nintendo demographic, audience. One could argue that Fortnite would be more popular with that crowd these days, but it's still pretty new and unproven whether or not it's just the next fidget spinner where as Minecraft has proven it does stand the test of time.

Then you have the fact that Nintendo and Sakurai himself have gone on record to speak highly of it. Miyamoto himself has stated that it was able to pull off something he tried and could not do. Sakurai spoke about how he enjoyed replaying through the game and how smart the build up/reward focus of the game is. There's very very few non-Nintendo games out there that gets those kinds of comments from these guys.

Then you have the whole promotion aspect. Again, it is one of the few non-Nintendo properties that Nintendo has theme a console over (ie the Creeper 3DS). Nintendo has entrust Mojang with the Mario IP, something they don't do too often, to create exclusive Mario content including characters, SFX, Music and textures which adds up to quite a bit of content, especially for an indie/competitor's IP. Earlier this year, you also have Nintendo flat out co-advertising the game with a direct competitor to promote the cross-play feature of the game; going as far as to show a competing console in a positive light in an official ad. In addition, they also acted openly friendly with their competitor over this specific game. Again, something extremely unheard of for the company that shows how much they value the IP. With Nintendo directly making the picks this time, you can't deny that the company has noticeable interest in the property that could translate to Smash content.

Finally, you have what Steve can do as a fighter that no other character could do. From an aesthetic point, the series is visually distinct and recognizable, there would be no way any other character or series would pull it off without being compared to Minecraft and while Steve, himself, isn't exactly a household name, most gamers are aware of his design and could pick him out of a lineup of characters. On the gameplay front, the focus on collecting resources to use later to either create and/or tools/items, or even build structures (aka the Mining and Crafting that gives the game its name) is what Sakurai himself praised the game over, and would undoubtedly be part of his moveset. No other fighter would be able to focus on specifically collecting materials through a dedicated mining action or possibly through normal fighting (hitting a character or object would yield specific materials that could be used in various "blueprints"). The with using his other Special Moves, he could put those resources to giving him better tools for more damage/speed/knockback/etc or, more dynamically, making structures such as platforms or walls that would temporarily alter the playingfield, something we have yet to see in a fighter. If that isn't something to get a character on Sakurai's radar, I don't know what is.

Now of course, anyone claiming he is a lock is just making things up and we don't know for sure who Nintendo picked. But you can't say that he doesn't have a strong chance of making it on his and his game's merit, regardless of who makes what claim on the internet.
 
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If we get a Microsoft rep, I have a strong feeling it will be either Master Chief or Steve. Steve would be the far likelier pick since Sakurai likes Minecraft, just as he likes Persona 5. As for Banjo-Kazooie, I don't think they're getting in. Does Nintendo even care about them? I don't think they ever even acknowledged their 20th anniversary. Plus, Banjo-Kazooie are dead. They couldn't promote anything. Steve is definitely the most logical choice at this point.
I think it's either Steve or B-K.

While Banjo-Kazooie's series is dead, Microsoft & Rare at least released new merchandise for them this year, and Rare still puts B-K references in their games (well, there was one in Sea of Thieves at least), plus they still keep B-K stuff around their office building. Steve Mayles (and I assume his brother as well) has also been silent about Smash-related stuff when asked, so either it could be a case similar to what was going on with Shantae (except not as a Spirit) or, of course, he's just ignoring questions.

While Nintendo may not care about them now, they at least seemed to highly value them back when they still owned them, putting the bear & bird alongside their biggest mascots on an official N64 box or promo-thing or something (also there was some Nintendo thing with plush toys, but I forgot what it was, just saw it in the B-K thread one time).

Steve, however, does seem more-likely, and I would love his (or a Creeper's) inclusion probably as much as B-K's, although no B-K would feel disappointing imo.
 
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Me too

He would make an far more unique character than rob and g&w because he has stuff no other fighter can do

And when he gets in I will download mc on the switch to celebrate
 

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Here to show my support for Minecraft Steve been supporting him since those Vergeben leaks mentioning "Minecraft content".
 
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NEWS FLASH!

There is a Japanese leaker that goes by the name 5channel saying that Steve is in and here’s what he said translated:

Steve

Stage is New World

Every other alt features female character “Alex”

The Ender Dragon is a stage boss, and can be turned off with the hazard toggle

Achieved to even further promote Minecraft on Nintendo Switch and strengthen bonds between Nintendo and Microsoft

Banjo Kazooie is a Mii Fighter costume

From the looks of it it seems Alex is coming as well as part of Steve’s alts like olimar and alph

As for the leakers credibility.....the reason Joker was in was because Atlus was working on some Persona 5 stuff to bring over to Nintendo. one of which is a fighting game, but he said the fighting game got pushed back due to ArcSys working on Granblue Fantasy Versus And granblue fantasy versus just got announced.
No this dose not mean gra blue is coming to smash
 

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NEWS FLASH!

There is a Japanese leaker that goes by the name 5channel saying that Steve is in and here’s what he said translated:

Steve

Stage is New World

Every other alt features female character “Alex”

The Ender Dragon is a stage boss, and can be turned off with the hazard toggle

Achieved to even further promote Minecraft on Nintendo Switch and strengthen bonds between Nintendo and Microsoft

Banjo Kazooie is a Mii Fighter costume

From the looks of it it seems Alex is coming as well as part of Steve’s alts like olimar and alph

As for the leakers credibility.....the reason Joker was in was because Atlus was working on some Persona 5 stuff to bring over to Nintendo. one of which is a fighting game, but he said the fighting game got pushed back due to ArcSys working on Granblue Fantasy Versus And granblue fantasy versus just got announced.
No this dose not mean gra blue is coming to smash
Any source?

This seems plausible, but Hitagi has apparently mentioned the Granblue game as well, idk if before or after; would be disappointed in B-K only being a mii costume but it's better than nothing I guess...

The stage's name being "New World" is a big win.
 

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NEWS FLASH!

There is a Japanese leaker that goes by the name 5channel saying that Steve is in and here’s what he said translated:

Steve

Stage is New World

Every other alt features female character “Alex”

The Ender Dragon is a stage boss, and can be turned off with the hazard toggle

Achieved to even further promote Minecraft on Nintendo Switch and strengthen bonds between Nintendo and Microsoft

Banjo Kazooie is a Mii Fighter costume

From the looks of it it seems Alex is coming as well as part of Steve’s alts like olimar and alph

As for the leakers credibility.....the reason Joker was in was because Atlus was working on some Persona 5 stuff to bring over to Nintendo. one of which is a fighting game, but he said the fighting game got pushed back due to ArcSys working on Granblue Fantasy Versus And granblue fantasy versus just got announced.
No this dose not mean gra blue is coming to smash
As much as I want to beleive it, I'm gonna take almost every leak with a grain of salt.
But just in case, I'll put it at the back of my mind.

EDIT: Wait... Are you pulling my leg?
I think we have enough characters with bury. Just put genos in we don't need steve.
Honestly, despite his use of a shovel, I don't Steve would even have bury.
If we're being real, I think Steve has a lot more moveset potential than geno does
 
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As much as I want to beleive it, I'm gonna take almost every leak with a grain of salt.
But just in case, I'll put it at the back of my mind.
Actually this guy also leaked Erdrick who is the se rep and so did verge hitagi and xenother they said he was coming too so give this guy a chance he’ll come

If we're being real, I think Steve has a lot more moveset potential than geno does
 

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I think we have enough characters with bury. Just put genos in we don't need steve.
Since you put it that way, I say leave Geno out, we have enough arm cannon characters. But seriously, if you want to support your character, that's fine, but do it in that character's thread instead.

As much as I want to beleive it, I'm gonna take almost every leak with a grain of salt.
But just in case, I'll put it at the back of my mind.

EDIT: Wait... Are you pulling my leg?

Honestly, despite his use of a shovel, I don't Steve would even have bury.
If we're being real, I think Steve has a lot more moveset potential than geno does
To be honest, Steve has the chance to be more unique than about 90% of potential fighters.
 

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Banjo and Kazooie being a Mii Costume would be the biggest troll since the Grinch leak being fake and Geno being revealed as a Mii Costume for Smash 4's DLC.
 
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Banjo and Kazooie being a Mii Costume would be the biggest troll since the Grinch leak being fake and Geno being revealed as a Mii Costume for Smash 4's DLC.
What I think is that they weren’t on the list so sakurai had to include them in somehow you know
 

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NEWS FLASH!

There is a Japanese leaker that goes by the name 5channel saying that Steve is in and here’s what he said translated:

Steve

Stage is New World

Every other alt features female character “Alex”

The Ender Dragon is a stage boss, and can be turned off with the hazard toggle

Achieved to even further promote Minecraft on Nintendo Switch and strengthen bonds between Nintendo and Microsoft

Banjo Kazooie is a Mii Fighter costume

From the looks of it it seems Alex is coming as well as part of Steve’s alts like olimar and alph

As for the leakers credibility.....the reason Joker was in was because Atlus was working on some Persona 5 stuff to bring over to Nintendo. one of which is a fighting game, but he said the fighting game got pushed back due to ArcSys working on Granblue Fantasy Versus And granblue fantasy versus just got announced.
No this dose not mean gra blue is coming to smash
Can we have link to the source?
 

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Steve is one of those characters that I actually would enjoy seeing in Smash. The only problem is music. The only song I want to see is this one:

Real question. Can I become a supporter?
 

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Minecraft has a ****ing stellar soundtrack, but it's not really something you battle to. While I love listening to it outside of the game, in game I usually turn it off because it ends up being white noise. I wonder if Steve will come with other series songs to make up for this?
 

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Minecraft has a ****ing stellar soundtrack, but it's not really something you battle to. While I love listening to it outside of the game, in game I usually turn it off because it ends up being white noise. I wonder if Steve will come with other series songs to make up for this?
I'd honestly say the same thing about Animal Crossing music, where it's not something you would battle to at all. But somehow, Sakurai and his team still made it work.
 

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I'd honestly say the same thing about Animal Crossing music, where it's not something you would battle to at all. But somehow, Sakurai and his team still made it work.
I agree, there's so many songs from games which would make no sense playing during a fight, yet we have tunes from AC, Wii Sports, Tomodachi Life, Pikmin, Rhythm Haven, Brain Age, and more. With a little bit of tweaks, Minecraft music shouldn't be hard to fit into Smash.
 

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I agree, there's so many songs from games which would make no sense playing during a fight, yet we have tunes from AC, Wii Sports, Tomodachi Life, Pikmin, Rhythm Haven, Brain Age, and more. With a little bit of tweaks, Minecraft music shouldn't be hard to fit into Smash.
RIght, and I'm sure there are tracks already in Minecraft that have that kind of battle/fighting vibe to it. I haven't kept up with the game in years, but regardless music shouldn't be a problem.
 

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I figured I'd post this here before I post it on the General Thread. Enjoy.

The Case for Minecraft Steve and the "Smash Bubble" effect

Hello, and welcome to the fourth in a series of speculation posts written by your's truly. In this post I will be arguing about why Steve from Minecraft is likelier than many think, and why people are so quick to underestimate his chances. Lets jump into it:
 
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I'll be honest, I really would have preferred Banjo over Steve for a rep from Microsoft, not that I have a connection towards the character, I just feel like so many really want him at this point that it kind of feels wrong not giving them the character at this point, since he's so universally wanted by the smash community.
As with the recent leak, I grew to warm up to the idea of him being a playable character. I used play the game a lot as a kid, still do from time to time with friends when given the chance. So yeah, put me in that support list, lets go!
 

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I figured I'd post this here before I post it on the General Thread. Enjoy.

The Case for Minecraft Steve and the "Smash Bubble" effect

Hello, and welcome to the fourth in a series of speculation posts written by your's truly. In this post I will be arguing about why Steve from Minecraft is likelier than many think, and why people are so quick to underestimate his chances. Lets jump into it:
Fantastically written and very well thought out. I whole-heartedly agree, especially with the points about the Smash Bubble.

Sites like this are only a small fraction of the gaming audience and what's popular here isn't exactly so much wit the rest of the world. When looking at a character's odds, we should really view who the public has beloved over the years over whomever is trending on social media.
 

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I'll be honest, I really would have preferred Banjo over Steve for a rep from Microsoft, not that I have a connection towards the character, I just feel like so many really want him at this point that it kind of feels wrong not giving them the character at this point, since he's so universally wanted by the smash community.
As with the recent leak, I grew to warm up to the idea of him being a playable character. I used play the game a lot as a kid, still do from time to time with friends when given the chance. So yeah, put me in that support list, lets go!
While it's hard to say if the majority of people want Banjo among smash players, there's no questioning he's a popular choice.

I imagine he probably beat Steve out in votes. That said, I don't think that alone gives Banjo an edge. There's way more factors than votes alone. Sakurai said so himself, that popularity is only a part of it. There's other things to consider. Things like relevancy can matter, so can things like making a feasible moveset. It's also important to remember that Sakurai needs to see them dancing in his head. He couldn't with Villager during Brawl, but could during Smash 4. That's why somebody who didn't make it in can still get in at a later time(probably not DLC if they have another major role, but that isn't a disconfirmation so much as an educated conclusion).

For the record, I think he can see both working just fine. However, part of it is also how Nintendo feels. Another is that we know he likes Minecraft, and that he outright dismissed Banjo & Kazooie as impossible with no thought put into them. Overall, looking at all of this, Steve likely has the edge. This doesn't mean it is the case either. King K. Rool is proof that having an ideal edge from out perspective(people absolutely expected Dixie first, or even Cranky in some cases) doesn't actually become reality in many many cases. Some characters pretty easy to predict(Ken was after we saw Richter, Isabelle was very easy to see happening, though many didn't see her being unique). I could go on. But yeah, I think both have a reasonable chance. I think B&K being irrelevant might make 'em lose their edge, though. Mostly cause Nintendo still hasn't secured them on the VC, but they did secure much more Minecraft-related stuff. It implies that Microsoft is willing to use one product on other consoles way more. But again, educated guess due to the information we have.
 

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I can't believe I never came to this thread before. I'm not the biggest Minecraft fan but I'd really like to see Steve in Smash (preferably with Alex). Please count me as one of the supporters.
 
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How do u guy think they’ll reveal Steve like?
 
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Ok.....Hear me out here.


Steve as shown here, wearing his classic blue shirt and pants while holding an stone pickaxe.

Who is Steve?
Do you live under a rock? Almost everyone and their MOTHER knows about Minecraft. But I guess I'll explain it anyways. Minecraft is arguably the most successful PC game ever made selling practically millions each month. Minecraft is a game where you can do more or less anything from building a complete recreation of norway, mining diamonds in a cave, or even fighting zombies and skeletons with A BLOCK OF DIRT. Minecrafts world is blocky and lego esque. There are 3 main modes, Survival (Fight monsters, die a lot, find lava, and more or less just survive), Creative mode (Do as you please, and build whatever you want with infinite resources), and Adventure (for map makers, you can't break or place any blocks). And you play as a customizable player character but is mostly known for looking like the picture above. His name is not player or him or anything like that. It's Steve. A generic human name.


Why should Steve be in Smash?
Steve is arguably one of the most popular Indie characters out there. Yeah you heard me right. INDIE! Minecraft is a massively successful game. An indie no less....I mean microsoft owns it now, and I'm not even sure if it's an indie game anymore.....that aside. Minecraft has a huge fan base and has sold over 100 MILLION COPIES as of June 2016. Steves moveset could be incredibly diverse and creative. Just like in Minecraft. Plus I feel like he'd be a very great rep for the indie genre (besides Quote who I do think deserves a spot in smash). That and he's been on three Nintendo consoles. The Wii U, The New Nintendo 3DS, and The Nintendo Switch.


Counter Arguments

Minecraft isn't known for having a good fanbase:
Well yeah the fanbase of Minecraft isn't necessarily the greatest, that doesn't mean Steve shouldn't have a chance to be in smash.


Minecraft is now a Microsoft property:
Well Phil Spencer (Microsoft CEO) said a few years ago on twitter that he'd love to have Banjo and Kazooie in smash. And guess what. Banjo Kazooie (as well as other Rare properties such as Grabbed by The Ghoulies, Conker. Sea of Thieves, KILLER INSTINCT, Battletoads, Snake Rattle and Roll, ETC) is a property owned by Microsoft. So Microsoft seems to be open to including it's properties in smash. Not only that but with the recent release of Minecraft (Crossplay/Bedrock) for the switch Microsoft has been more than willing to work with Nintendo. So Steve is entirely possible.


Quote was the original Indie and deserves a spot more than Steve:
While yes it IS true that Cave Story/Doukutsu Monogatari was what popularized the indie game genre and was the first indie/nindie on a nintendo platform. I do feel like Minecraft's Steve is more deserving of this spot because we aren't even sure IF indies can get into smash in the first place so since Minecraft isn't known for being an indie game (which to my knowledge it is), Steve is the safer bet for an Indie rep in Smash. But thats not to say Quote shouldn't be in smash. Quote definitely deserves a spot on the roster up there with Shovel Knight (Deconfirmed), Shantae (Spirit), Karate Joe (Spirit), K-Rool (HE'S IN), Arle from Puyo Puyo, Bandana Waddle Dee (Spirit), DOOMGUY, Rayman (Spirit), Ashley (Deconfirmed), Geno (Spirit), Spyro, and Crash Bandicoot. Granted all the characters I listed ALSO deserve to be in smash for their own reasons. Ok getting a bit off topic. TLDR; Steve is the safer bet for an Indie rep due to Minecraft not being very well known for being an indie game (aka not many people know it's an indie game) and also because it's just overall more popular.

Well what are your guys thoughts? Do you want Steve to be in Smash? I made this thread due to there being no Steve support thread,and out of a genuine interest to see how many people agree that he should be in smash.




As a Minecraft veteran I give this my seal of approval

(Only if Alex will come as an echo fighter with it.)

How do u guy think they’ll reveal Steve like?
Maybe Steve mining and finding a smash ore.

Ok.....Hear me out here.


Steve as shown here, wearing his classic blue shirt and pants while holding an stone pickaxe.

Who is Steve?
Do you live under a rock? Almost everyone and their MOTHER knows about Minecraft. But I guess I'll explain it anyways. Minecraft is arguably the most successful PC game ever made selling practically millions each month. Minecraft is a game where you can do more or less anything from building a complete recreation of norway, mining diamonds in a cave, or even fighting zombies and skeletons with A BLOCK OF DIRT. Minecrafts world is blocky and lego esque. There are 3 main modes, Survival (Fight monsters, die a lot, find lava, and more or less just survive), Creative mode (Do as you please, and build whatever you want with infinite resources), and Adventure (for map makers, you can't break or place any blocks). And you play as a customizable player character but is mostly known for looking like the picture above. His name is not player or him or anything like that. It's Steve. A generic human name.


Why should Steve be in Smash?
Steve is arguably one of the most popular Indie characters out there. Yeah you heard me right. INDIE! Minecraft is a massively successful game. An indie no less....I mean microsoft owns it now, and I'm not even sure if it's an indie game anymore.....that aside. Minecraft has a huge fan base and has sold over 100 MILLION COPIES as of June 2016. Steves moveset could be incredibly diverse and creative. Just like in Minecraft. Plus I feel like he'd be a very great rep for the indie genre (besides Quote who I do think deserves a spot in smash). That and he's been on three Nintendo consoles. The Wii U, The New Nintendo 3DS, and The Nintendo Switch.


Counter Arguments

Minecraft isn't known for having a good fanbase:
Well yeah the fanbase of Minecraft isn't necessarily the greatest, that doesn't mean Steve shouldn't have a chance to be in smash.


Minecraft is now a Microsoft property:
Well Phil Spencer (Microsoft CEO) said a few years ago on twitter that he'd love to have Banjo and Kazooie in smash. And guess what. Banjo Kazooie (as well as other Rare properties such as Grabbed by The Ghoulies, Conker. Sea of Thieves, KILLER INSTINCT, Battletoads, Snake Rattle and Roll, ETC) is a property owned by Microsoft. So Microsoft seems to be open to including it's properties in smash. Not only that but with the recent release of Minecraft (Crossplay/Bedrock) for the switch Microsoft has been more than willing to work with Nintendo. So Steve is entirely possible.


Quote was the original Indie and deserves a spot more than Steve:
While yes it IS true that Cave Story/Doukutsu Monogatari was what popularized the indie game genre and was the first indie/nindie on a nintendo platform. I do feel like Minecraft's Steve is more deserving of this spot because we aren't even sure IF indies can get into smash in the first place so since Minecraft isn't known for being an indie game (which to my knowledge it is), Steve is the safer bet for an Indie rep in Smash. But thats not to say Quote shouldn't be in smash. Quote definitely deserves a spot on the roster up there with Shovel Knight (Deconfirmed), Shantae (Spirit), Karate Joe (Spirit), K-Rool (HE'S IN), Arle from Puyo Puyo, Bandana Waddle Dee (Spirit), DOOMGUY, Rayman (Spirit), Ashley (Deconfirmed), Geno (Spirit), Spyro, and Crash Bandicoot. Granted all the characters I listed ALSO deserve to be in smash for their own reasons. Ok getting a bit off topic. TLDR; Steve is the safer bet for an Indie rep due to Minecraft not being very well known for being an indie game (aka not many people know it's an indie game) and also because it's just overall more popular.

Well what are your guys thoughts? Do you want Steve to be in Smash? I made this thread due to there being no Steve support thread,and out of a genuine interest to see how many people agree that he should be in smash.




Things that the Steve needs:

Bow and arrow

Shield deflect

Diamond sword


Maybe for recovery something to do with ladders? Like a ladder throw
 
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