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shrinkray21

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I actually am not going to tourneys right now b/c of school, but I might get back into it in a month or two...however, melee is pretty sexy right now.
 

Barge

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Wow, a lot of Olimainers second a lot of the same chars

Samus TL marth pika etc

Those are my 4 secondairies
 

Master Knight DH

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Wow, a lot of Olimainers second a lot of the same chars
I'm not one of the Olimainers who does that. My secondaries are Ness, Kirby, Pit, Diddy, ROB, and (quite possibly) ICs. Performance is pretty much coincidental except for ROB--whose case is excusable because everybody else among them has lower weight than Mario, though they may be able to make up for it with lower fall speed. (ROB has high weight and low fall speed--granted this may turn into a disadvantage, but ROB's recovery is still very good.)
 

DanGR

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I have a confession guys. I've been using MK some. :( He's not fun to use or win with and...idk. I feel so dirty.
 

Master Knight DH

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I have a confession guys. I've been using MK some. :( He's not fun to use or win with and...idk. I feel so dirty.
I think it would be a good idea to petition Nintendo/HAL for a priority decay concept. It would be a lot easier for them to even out characters. And you can't tell me Meta Knight, who carries around a claymore about his size with one arm, won't be affected.
 

Hai Im Fearless

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Hey DanGR, no shame in playing Metaknight.

THIS IS A GAME ABOUT MATCHUPS.

I play metaknight for Oli's bad matchups (wario, marth, wolf, fox etc) and play Oli for the good \ neutral ones.
 

OlimarFan

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I have a confession guys. I've been using MK some. :( He's not fun to use or win with and...idk. I feel so dirty.
You are forgiven. :)

Hey DanGR, no shame in playing Metaknight.

THIS IS A GAME ABOUT MATCHUPS.

I play metaknight for Oli's bad matchups (wario, marth, wolf, fox etc) and play Oli for the good \ neutral ones.
I play Marth and Snake for Olimar's bad matchups, Ice Climbers for R.O.B. and play Olimar for the good ones.
Although MK has few bad matchups, it's good to learn more than one character, otherwise people will specifically practice against MK.
 

Master Knight DH

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Although MK has few bad matchups, it's good to learn more than one character, otherwise people will specifically practice against MK.
I think people will specifically practise against Meta Knight anyway. (Yes, that typo is intentional. Still gotta make fun of Bimmy & Jimmy Lee 3 Double Dragon 3.) If Meta Knight is truly broken from sickening priority on top of the tornado, it won't make a difference.
 

asob4

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well, danGR saw, i got 2nd in a small local tourney
technically we just split first but i don't mind cause in all honesty, i know i would've beaten his MK so i was nice to him ^^
 

Dotcom

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tell it to Ankoku's foreel
Or not i'm not really upset about the tier list though.
Just when somebody gets completely R0CKED by my Olimar they will be all the more supprised.
 

DanGR

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I have to agree with yah proto. Skank, you should retract those tourney results. No-one should post anything! Then he'll fall to low tier! Bwahahaha!

Hows my plan?
 

asob4

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-_- bad plan
i like seeing my character as a god :D
everyone i play with is convinced oli is more broken than MK lol
 

Master Knight DH

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I have to agree with yah proto. Skank, you should retract those tourney results. No-one should post anything! Then he'll fall to low tier! Bwahahaha!

Hows my plan?
Luckily, I'm basically already trying to follow your plan to the best of my ability except trying to technique run BB Intense with Oli. Ness as my #2 and all.

Actually, my own plan would be to break the tier system AND the matchup system into pieces.

Anyway, DanGR, I have AIM now. "Master Knight DH" would be who you want to look for.
 

DanGR

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Anyway, DanGR, I have AIM now. "Master Knight DH" would be who you want to look for.
Cool. In fact, I just recently installed aim back onto my computer. Look for "Dudeguy8".

Edit: In fact, anyone else here can send me a message if yah want. you're all cool.
 

BlackWaltzX

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About the dropping of Olimar in the tourney results, I generally took out ones that I placed in just so that he'd drop. :D
Ever since Olimar came out I tried to make him look bad just so that they wouldn't practice against him.
Now, things changed, but back a couple months ago, M2K didn't even know how to get pikmin off. -sighs at how he used to land 2 white pikmin on him and then grab-.
 

Pyronic_Star

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i want to feel included, my aim is ace13crd :D feel free to add me... anyone except blackwaltz and tru redemtion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cus they already has mine :p

and dangr.... MK... noooooooooooooooooo, i know he's akuma tier but nooooooooooooooooooooooo *huddles with the rainbow pikmin and cries*

and is anyone else aside from me going to CH4... the 3rd ecrc event?
 

Master Knight DH

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and dangr.... MK... noooooooooooooooooo, i know he's akuma tier but nooooooooooooooooooooooo *huddles with the rainbow pikmin and cries*
Let's learn how to fight Meta Knight. And if he really is broken, there's always petitioning Sakurai for priority decay in a future installment.

Let me think up some rules for it:
*Each attack would increase a value we shall call "Priority Decay" by 2 to 6 depending on the attack.
*Priority Decay value would cap at 100.
*Each character would have a Priority Decay limit. (Meta Knight's would be very low.) Each point pass that would decrease Priority by 0.5%.
*Every 1.5 seconds, the PD value would go down by 1 point. (This means Meta Knight would still be able to work with dealing 150% ridiculously fast, but given his destroyed priority, he'll be very open for harassment without attacks with which to defend himself, and his low weight AND high fall speed will see to it that he'll have to earn wins now.)
*Also, for each time an attack that is used is in the attack queue, the PD would be increased by 50%. (Say if the Forward Smash is in the queue 6 times, PD will be quadrupled. Or 4 times and it's tripled.)

These values may be changed however necessary to minimize the influence to balancing characters. But you see where I'm going with this.
 

DanGR

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^Priority Decay would be too confusing. :/ Diminishing Returns is hard enough to keep track of.
 

Dotcom

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fatdog2417 is ALWAYS ON!
ask waltz he knows.
figg a tier. It's not like anyone here is going to be.. oh **** well Olimar went and dropped some more so i guess i'll just drop him

well at least I hope.
 

asob4

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going to a tourney pretty much full of scrubs on sunday so i'm gonna **** them all and take their munnies and rep olimar :D
 

DanGR

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Haha, I've always wanted to go to one of those VERY local gamestop tourneys where like half the people will just spam the laser with wolf and their tier lists would look like this:

Top
Pit-those arrows!
Wolf-that laser!
Ike-so strong!
Sonic-so fast!
...
 

asob4

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yeah
it's pretty much a bunch of casuals from my school who think they're good
so i have to show them they aren't lol
and take their money :D
 

Dotcom

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Olimar - So ****.
OMG Meta Knight isn't eventhat good. I mean he's fast but other than than that... I mean he can't even kill before like 200.

I've actually had my friend argue that to me that Meta KNight sucks.
The he played M2K, and quit brawl for about 4 weeks.
 

OlimarFan

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I've actually had my friend argue that to me that Meta KNight sucks.
The he played M2K, and quit brawl for about 4 weeks.
Well M2K is a 'one of a kind' guy...your friend shouldn't feel so bad...I mean, I'd be honored if I played against M2K, regardless of the result.
 

Zori

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im going to hobo 10 its going to be like 115 people wish me luck......

I'm going to win btw :)
 

gameboii

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Jan 26, 2008
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i placed 7th at karn and NC Echo's bi weekly this past weekend. is that a big enough tourney to have the results posted for the olimar rankings?

I think around 30 people attended.
 
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