SSB64 Character Match-up Chart

[moogle]

....... | Pi Ki Ne Fo CF Ji Ma Yo DK Lu Sa Li
--------+------------------------------------
Pikachu | -- 55 65 55 65 55 60 65 70 70 70 80
Kirby.. | 45 -- 60 60 65 55 60 65 65 60 65 75
Ness... | 35 40 -- 50 55 45 55 65 65 60 65 80
Fox.... | 45 40 50 -- 45 60 55 55 60 70 75 75
Falcon. | 35 35 45 55 -- 50 50 55 60 60 65 75
Jiggly. | 45 45 55 40 50 -- 45 55 55 35 40 60
Mario.. | 35 40 45 45 50 55 -- 55 55 55 60 70
Yoshi.. | 35 35 35 45 45 45 45 -- 55 55 65 70
DK..... | 30 35 35 40 40 50 45 45 -- 60 60 75
Luigi.. | 30 40 40 30 40 65 45 45 40 -- 55 55
Samus.. | 30 35 35 25 35 60 40 35 40 45 -- 50
Link... | 20 25 20 25 25 40 30 30 25 45 50 --


This is an analogue to the SSBM All Characters Match-up Chart by Phanna. The numbers represent a character's percent chance of winning that match-up against an opponent of equal skill. For example, the 55 next to Pikachu and under "Ki" (Kirby) means that a Pikachu would empirically have a 55% chance of winning against an equally skilled Kirby.

The idea for this SSB64 chart started in the stickied SSB64 tier thread. I decided to make a new topic so more people would see this. Right now this chart is text-only... graphics may come in a future update.

I didn't spend hours deciding on all of these numbers, so you guys should help fix up this table. Some of these match-ups I don't really know much about (Yoshi vs Luigi?). Give me some comments, suggestions, corrections, etc. You could even copy/paste my table and put in your own values.

Last thing, I thought you guys might find this interesting... each character's average, based on my values:

Pikachu 64.5454
Kirby.. 61.3636
Ness... 55.9090
Fox.... 57.2727
Falcon. 53.1818
Jiggly. 47.2727
Mario.. 51.3636
Yoshi.. 48.1818
DK..... 46.8181
Luigi.. 44.0909
Samus.. 39.0909
Link... 30.4545

(This is ordered by the tier list positions, not numerically)

 

[Thino]

nice job . but I still think Jiggly have more weird match-up stats ... but since you main Jiggly , maybe its the char you have the most accurate stats for

 

[malva00]

just play the g4m3

 

[Thino]

I do play it but this thing seems quite subjective anyway

 

[SheerMadness]

Lol moogle you productive jigglypuff you.

 

[Nintendude]

This is pretty interesting. Your averages list is out of order though.

 

[RedYoshi92]

this thread is going to be very interesting

 

[rokimomi]

Yoshi should be a bit higher. Super combo potential. At least over mario. He wins tons in the "pro" battles of japan as well as here. Yoshi's a beast

 

[TJK1997]

Intersting...

 

[ant-d]

Ness has 0%-to-death combos on everyone.

 

[Deleted member]

fox is a pain in the *** for kirby

 

[M3tr01D]

"Ut Ut Ut Ut Ut Nair --> Dair"

he won't be such a trouble anymore.

 

[Deleted member]

a character that can run and shoot all match should have no reason to get hit by uptilt unless he falls into it stupidly or fails to use a laser lead-in correctly.

kirby is also combo practice for fox's drill.

 

[Mekanos]

Top 5 is accurate.

Seems like Link doesn't stand out...at all.

 

[Thino]

moogle told we could copypaste the chart with our own values

 

[cmasterchoe]

u know, i thought I was into smash... and then i read moogle's research report.... er... post, and i have corrected myself. i consider my level of obsession with smash to be only a "casual observer" by comparison...

 

[rokimomi]

Its jus a lotta exp.

....... | Pi Ki Ne Fo CF Ji Ma Yo DK Lu Sa Li
-------+-----------------------------------------
Fox...| 50 45 55 -- 40 55 60 60 60 70 75 75

Only in my op.


Holy **** formatting this thing is hard...

 

[greenblob]

....... | Pi Ki Ne Fo CF Ji Ma Yo DK Lu Sa Li
--------+------------------------------------

Jiggly. | 50 50 55 40 55 -- 45 45 55 40 35 50



Eh, just from my experience...

 

[moogle]

I'll make a reply soon enough.... just you wait! -_-

 

[Zantetsu]

*Removed post cuz I was an idiot back in early 07 XD*

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

its called luck, and probably dreamland lol

 

[TJK1997]

DONT LET THIS TOPIC DIE!Also boom is right luck.

 

[moogle]

Ok, I'm back.

THIS COULD CHANGE THE TIER LIST =O

Nah, I don't have the authority to do so. Though I don't think Ness belongs in the same tier as Pikachu and Kirby.

....... | Pi Ki Ne Fo CF Ji Ma Yo DK Lu Sa Li
--------+------------------------------------
Jiggly. | 50 50 55 40 55 -- 45 45 55 40 35 50

Jiggly vs..
Pika: If Pika's u-air and b-air didn't own so much, I'd call this match even, or maybe in Jiggly's favor.

If I do this for all 12 characters, I'm gonna be typing a lot...

The following list is based on my preference... my Jiggly vs. someone in a tournament match.. easiest matchups first: Link=Ness<Yoshi=DK=CF<Kirby<Mario<Pikachu<Fox<Samus<Luigi. Side note: Against people who aren't as good as me, I think Pika/Kirby/Ness are some of my easiest matchups, cause they are very susceptible to rest combos.

I'll remodel my Jiggly numbers a little bit.

....... | Pi Ki Ne Fo CF Ji Ma Yo DK Lu Sa Li
--------+------------------------------------
Fox.... | 50 45 55 -- 40 55 60 60 60 70 75 75

I'll do the same I did with Jiggly... ranking my easiest opponents when I'm Fox, based on my preference:
Link=Samus=Luigi<DK=Jiggly<Yoshi=Mario=Ness<Falcon<Pikachu=Kirby
I did that without looking at my chart.
Fox vs Ness could be 50/50 or 55/45. Fox dies really easily against Pikachu, Kirby, and Falcon. These are all 40/60 or 45/55 probably. If Kirby didn't have that uptilt, it would be like 55/45 or 60/40 in Fox's favor. I'll revise my numbers some... but it's hard to decide on Fox's numbers.

u know, i thought I was into smash... and then i read moogle's research report.... er... post, and i have corrected myself. i consider my level of obsession with smash to be only a "casual observer" by comparison...

Yeah.. I've played this game a lot. >_<

Top 5 is accurate.

Seems like Link doesn't stand out...at all.

I think I'm being too mean to Link. It doesn't seem right that all of Samus's matchups are as good as or better than Link's. I'll tinker with those numbers sometime.

a character that can run and shoot all match should have no reason to get hit by uptilt unless he falls into it stupidly or fails to use a laser lead-in correctly.

kirby is also combo practice for fox's drill.

With Fox at low percent, most of Kirby's aerials easily combo into up-tilt. And once Fox takes a Kirby uptilt, he's up to 60-80% and being sent off the stage. Yes I know that basically the lighter your character is, the easier it is to die to Fox combos, but Kirby has more than enough in his arsenal to take care of Fox.

Yoshi should be a bit higher. Super combo potential. At least over mario. He wins tons in the "pro" battles of japan as well as here. Yoshi's a beast

I'm not really out to challenge the tier list. I'm just here to... expand it.

This is pretty interesting. Your averages list is out of order though.

I'm ordering them by their tier list position, not by the numbers I've generated. I made a note in the first post for people like you.

just play the g4m3

I'm at work, I can't play smash here. ;_; But I can type stuff in Notepad!

...

Sorry I didn't get to ya. My post is getting too long.

 

[Johnknight1]

Good list, but as much as i hate playing as Link I think he is at least a little higher. HAHA I use to main Kirby, and now I main Mario. I think my chances went down, lol!

 

[SheerMadness]

Might as well bump this since there's a new thread asking for a match up chart.

Some of these match-ups I don't really know much about (Yoshi vs Luigi?).

I'd say fighting a Luigi is one of my least favorite match ups. He slides too much when u hit his shield, he's light, and he has a lot less hit stun than most characters.

And as far as I'm concerned I think Yoshi is probably atleast 50/50 with everyone except Pikachu and possibly Kirby. But it seems somewhat taboo for good players to play kirby so I have almost no good Kirby experience.