SSB4 Rumours and Leaks

[Sehnsucht]

RAIDEN: "Kept you waiting, huh?"

SNAKE: "Hey, that's my line!"

 

[HylianHeroBigBoss]

And for good reason honestly. He probably doesn't know that Metal Gear hasn't yet been confirmed as a franchise present in the new Smash Bros games, many times voice actors don't follow or even watch the end result of what they're voicing, so he probably didn't think it through properly before he let his mouth slip.

He could be also under an NDA (which would be bad for him if he goofed), so his response on twitter or lack there of one might be telling, especially if the site omits that section of the article.

 

[LF2K]

Whelp, looks like someone effed up big time.

 

[lightdasher]

Ugh I really don't want a playable Raiden in Smash, not one bit.

 

[Vintage Creep]

Well, we finally got that character confirmation we were so eager for all month.

 

[Spazzy_D]

Guess this is why Sakurai went to Platinum Studios a while back.....

Seriously though, if Raiden is in this game in any capacity, that would mean that there is a character that appeared in both Smash Bros. and Playstation All Stars. Wild.

 

[Muster]

Ugh I really don't want a playable Raiden in Smash, not one bit.

He mentioned that he is not voiced to the extent he is in other games, so that most likely means he's not playable.
(not that i'd complain, as breakdancing cyborg ninja would be the best moveset ever)

 

[Sehnsucht]

Guess this is why Sakurai went to Platinum Studios a while back.....

Seriously though, if Raiden is in this game in any capacity, that would mean that there is a character that appeared in both Smash Bros. and Playstation All Stars. Wild.

It's only a matter of time before we get SSB VS PSAS.

 

[Shin F.]

It's only a matter of time before we get SSB VS PSAS.

Master Chief for Sandbag replacement confirmed.

(Cause... cause all we do with Sandbag is beat on him mercilessly...)

 

[R0Y]

To be fair the whole deal with Hayter and Jigglypuff did happen.

Man by now Nintendo should know MGS VA's can't keep a secret for ****.

Uhh...Hayter hasn't been the MGS Snake VA since Peace Walker.

 

[-VictoriaJustice-]

Snake? SNAKE? SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKEEE????!!!!!!

 

[HylianHeroBigBoss]

Uhh...Hayter hasn't been the MGS Snake VA since Peace Walker.

he means before brawl

 

[TheNotSoShyGuy]

And… Just like that… http://www.gonintendo.com/s/225510-raiden-not-appearing-in-smash-bros-wii-u-3ds

Which is totally odd, since he didn't voice Raiden in PSASBR according to the voice lists that I saw throughout the thread.

 

[Spazzy_D]

Uhh...Hayter hasn't been the MGS Snake VA since Peace Walker.

Talking about a Pre-Brawl leak, where Hater mentioned Jigglypuff in an interview before her reveal.

Double post. Sorry.

Well, if it was just a big misunderstanding (did he do the mocap in PSABR? It's not like he voiced Raiden in the game) at least it got it to stop talking about Plautena for a few hours.

 

[aldelaro5]

And… Just like that… http://www.gonintendo.com/s/225510-raiden-not-appearing-in-smash-bros-wii-u-3ds

lol
right after we tought the opposite just hilarious.

 

[Staarih]

And… Just like that… http://www.gonintendo.com/s/225510-raiden-not-appearing-in-smash-bros-wii-u-3ds

But I thought he didn't voice Raiden in PSASBR, so why would he say he mixed it up with that one? I'm confused.

 

[HylianHeroBigBoss]

And… Just like that… http://www.gonintendo.com/s/225510-raiden-not-appearing-in-smash-bros-wii-u-3ds

Which is totally odd, since he didn't voice Raiden in PSASBR according to the voice lists that I saw throughout the thread.

But he wasnt in that game either though..

 

[Zhadgon]

If it can kill the Betternet Leak I´m all for it, does anyone read the interview where Sakurai mentions Snake and Mario and how both of them should match in art style so they don´t be out of place from each other? It was mentioned as a example but still it makes me think that Sakurai still consider Snake in so form.

Quote from the article:
It looks like we won’t be short on fan service, however. One of Brawl’s best features was the inclusion of GameCube levels, including the brilliant moving F-Zero stage Big Blue, which we mention specifically to Sakurai when asking if old levels will make a return in these new sequels. "No comment," he says in English. Except he does comment! "For one thing, if we did do that, stuff that was on Wii would have to be altered to be put on a 3DS. You’d have to make some tweaks. Whether or not you’d do that and still do those justice remains to be seen. We’re going to have to look at that." Fingers crossed, then. It’s not a no. We mention that porting such levels to Wii U would also have to account for the leap to HD. "Exactly," he replies.

Visually, then, there’s no shortage of difficulties in making Smash Bros work for two platforms at the same time. Perhaps one of those least referenced achievements in the Smash Bros is the way Sakurai and his team have forged an art style (plural, in the case of the Wii U and 3DS games) that can comfortably accommodate characters as diverse as Mario and Snake – we asked Sakurai to explain his approach to this. "You really have a good understanding of what we’re doing, that’s good!" he says.

"Of course, one thing I have to do is, I have the last look at everything. I have graphic supervision over all the assets, so I’m the one who, when everyone’s done, they pass it over and I look at it. Let’s be truthful: Snake and Mario on the same screen is gonna be odd – but what we have to look at is textures and environments and how they fit in the world, their colours, their size ratios, how they move and how they jump, and all these sorts of things and really make sure, to the best of our abilities, as you said, they look comfortable together."

Link: http://www.nowgamer.com/features/2034386/super_smash_bros_sakurai_speaks.html

.n_n.

 

[-VictoriaJustice-]

And… Just like that… http://www.gonintendo.com/s/225510-raiden-not-appearing-in-smash-bros-wii-u-3ds

Which is totally odd, since he didn't voice Raiden in PSASBR according to the voice lists that I saw throughout the thread.

...And now it gets even more confusing! Hooray!

 

[SonicMario]

And… Just like that… http://www.gonintendo.com/s/225510-raiden-not-appearing-in-smash-bros-wii-u-3ds

Which is totally odd, since he didn't voice Raiden in PSASBR according to the voice lists that I saw throughout the thread.

This might be him saving face from a NDA he had with Nintendo. Which happened to slip his mind during the interview. Especially when we know that he did not voice Raiden in Playstation All-Stars.

 

[Sehnsucht]

The La Li Lu Le Lo are messing with our minds, mang.

 

[Vintage Creep]

I was pretty sure already but it's nice to have a 99% certainty that Snake will return as playable.
Kojima missing the opportunity of seeing his child battling it out with Mario, Sonic and now even Mega Man?
Nah.

#TeamNoCuts

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Hmmm... I'd think Raiden would replace Grey Fox if it was the case but let's get back to our usual stuff.

On the Palutena leak, most characters face the screen somewhat when facing right but she looks like she's doing the opposite. Is she like Mega Man who switches sides?

 

[LF2K]

Quinton Flynn voiced Raiden in PSABR. His statement seems a bit fishy.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Article says it was Mo-cap for PSASBR.

I thought there wasn't mo-cap there.

 

[Zhadgon]

Everyone is trolling, I´m so confused .
.n_n.

 

[Muster]

Article says it was Mo-cap for PSASBR.

I thought there wasn't mo-cap there.

there shouldn't have been. Raiden's animations were ripped from revengeance.

the credits also do not mention mo cap for anything metal gear.

 

[papagenos]

apparently he did the Motion capture for Raiden but not the voice in Playstation All Stars...but i need confirmation on this

 

[Guybrush20X6]

there shouldn't have been. Raiden's animations were ripped from revengeance.

Which were mo-capped, egro, Raiden was mo-capped in PSASBR.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

"there was no mocap for all stars though either. And hes not listed in the credits or anything else either, i could understand if it was scrapped but i think he would know about that."

there shouldn't have been. Raiden's animations were ripped from revengeance.

Seems your right.

What's going on?

EDIT:

Wait... Did he do mo-cap for Metal Gear Rising?

 

[swordbreaker]

You guys do know he does motion capture right? What is there to be confused about here? They are not going to be cheap and go for another voice actor. They'll get flynn. Nintendo wants full quality.

 

[Spazzy_D]

there shouldn't have been. Raiden's animations were ripped from revengeance.

the credits also do not mention mo cap for anything metal gear.

You have a source for that? Just curious.

 

[lightdasher]

This might be him saving face from a NDA he had with Nintendo. Which happened to slip his mind during the interview. Especially when we know that he did not voice Raiden in Playstation All-Stars.

-Person admits he mixed them up-
"Nope he's lying, Raiden's in smash"

>:I

 

[Swamp Sensei]

You guys do know he does motion capture right? What is there to be confused about here?

Because PSASBR didn't have motion capture, apparently.

-Person admits he mixed them up-
"Nope he's lying, Raiden's in smash"

>:I

Thing is, the excuse he used doesn't add up.

 

[Muster]

"there was no mocap for all stars though either. And hes not listed in the credits or anything else either, i could understand if it was scrapped but i think he would know about that."


Seems your right.

What's going on?

EDIT:

Wait... Did he do mo-cap for Metal Gear Rising?

Nope, that was Chris.

nevermind, Chris was not specifically raiden. the man who mo capped raiden was japanese though. (like he usually is)

 

[Marakatu]

It's only a matter of time before we get SSB VS PSAS.

Raiden would be the protagonist, being the link between worlds.

 

[HylianHeroBigBoss]

Article says it was Mo-cap for PSASBR.

I thought there wasn't mo-cap there.

I guess maybe there might have been, since there is an image of infamous's actor in mocap. But man this is gonna suck if he goofed that bad

 

[papagenos]

playstation all stars DOES appear to have motion capture tho Langdon is not listed here, several other people involved with motion capturing are:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2385173/fullcredits/

 

[Sehnsucht]

Raiden would be the protagonist, being the link between worlds.

Does this make Yuga the antagonist?

 

[Croph]

One problem with this Raiden thing is that Raiden hasn't (respectfully) been a Nintendo system.

- Super Smash Bros. Brawl: A mere sticker
- Metal Gear Solid: Ghost Babel : Referenced (by his real name "Jack", plus it's a non-canon game)
- Metal Gear Solid: Snake Eater 3D: Non-canon cameo.

So I have my doubts on this.

You forgot this:

Spoiler

Evolution Skateboarding (GC)... just when you think you've seen it all...

Hopefully all this confusion will be sorted out soon. It's pretty entertaining, to say the least.