SSB4 Looks like utter garbage.

[Mr.C]

Completely obvious they're following in the footsteps of Brawls game-engine and physics. The graphics already look out dated for a game coming out in 2014 (it looks almost exactly like Brawl). If you watch the game-play footage you'll notice: No L-Canceling, auto edge-grab, no hit-stun, and no shielding while in dash animation. SSB4 still has Brawls terrible dash physics, floatiness, clunky walking/running/jumping mechanics.

What does this mean? It means the people who love Melees vastly deep competitive game-play will have to stick to Melee for another decade or two because this game is going to be another Brawl. It's a sad day for the competitive Smash community...a sad day indeed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=en&gl=CA&client=mv-google&v=rqxDPJmO6f8&nomobile=1
(Mario vs Mega Man)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQD1yJinzeQ&t
(Closer look at game play)

 

[Zage]

Ok. cya in 2024 then.

 

[GreenKirby]

Judging on a modified engine? LOL

Wasn't Brawl running with a modified Melee engine in E3?

 

[soviet prince]

brawl was not a bad game just some competitive players refuse to adapt

 

[Mr.Jackpot]

It's a bit too soon to say. M2K's there right now so wait until we get some feedback from him and/or newer footage of the game comes out.

 

[Mr.Jackpot]

brawl was not a bad game just some competitive players refuse to adapt

You don't use the word "adapt" when you talk about different games, especially ones that are worse. Players could "adapt" if Smash 4 was the name of a rebranded Mario Party but why would you play that when you have great games like Melee and Project M who's metagames are still developing?

 

[FalKoopa]

Wasn't expecting a thread like this so soon.

 

[Mr.C]

Judging on a modified engine? LOL

Wasn't Brawl running with a modified Melee engine in E3?

Said the same thing about Brawls game play footage when released and I was correct.

It's a bit too soon to say. M2K's there right now so wait until we get some feedback from him and/or newer footage of the game comes out.

There is very clear game play footage already out. If you watch the video it's incredibly obvious what general techniques are in/out and how their engine feels. Walking, dashing, jumping, look EXACTLY like Brawl. You'll notice aerials not being L-Canceled, no hit-stun, auto edge-grab, floatiness, clunkiness, etc. The game looks like they copy & pasted Brawl and added some new characters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=en&gl=CA&client=mv-google&v=rqxDPJmO6f8&nomobile=1

brawl was not a bad game just some competitive players refuse to adapt

Why would people adapt to an inferior game with inferior and watered down mechanics?

 

[Swamp Sensei]

You seem like a very positive person.

 

[Big-Cat]

Way too early to tell. The level of play seen in trailers for ANY fighting game are almost never anywhere near that of players that know what they're doing. As it was said earlier, let's wait until we actually get hands on time with the game.

 

[Mr.C]

You seem like a very positive person.

Realistic person. The game is a Brawl copy & paste.

Way too early to tell. The level of play seen in trailers for ANY fighting game are almost never anywhere near that of players that know what they're doing. As it was said earlier, let's wait until we actually get hands on time with the game.

Not talking about the trailer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=en&gl=CA&client=mv-google&v=rqxDPJmO6f8&nomobile=1

 

[umegames]

I guess that's like people who play only play street fighter 2 because they didn't like that 3 and 4 changed, or like the mortal kombat series, or marvel vs capcom.

It is what it is....whatever it is

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Realistic person. The game is a Brawl copy & paste.

Not talking about the trailer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=en&gl=CA&client=mv-google&v=rqxDPJmO6f8&nomobile=1

You're not even giving it a chance.

And you realize that Sakurai is playing with only one hand each while playing both characters right?

 

[nessokman]

Said the same thing about Brawls game play footage when released and I was correct.



There is very clear game play footage already out. If you watch the video it's incredibly obvious what techniques are in/out and how their engine feels. Walking, dashing, jumping, look EXACTLY like Brawl. You'll notice aerials not being L-Canceled, no hit-stun, auto edge-grab, etc. The game looks like they copy & pasted Brawl and added some new characters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=en&gl=CA&client=mv-google&v=rqxDPJmO6f8&nomobile=1



Why would people adapt to an inferior game with inferior and watered down mechanics?

Ok, so.....Brawl was a wonderful game, melee was ok.

Favoritism aside, you CAN NOT judge the game yet, as it is still being developed and there are flaws that will have to be worked out between now and then.
This thread is a waste of yours and everyone else's time, and is somewhat-likely to spawn a flame war. Come back when the official trailer for the finished game has come out and you have PLAYED it.Only then do you have the right to judge it. If it is balanced well it will be a fantastic game. If you don't like it, go jerk off to Melee like you have been for years.

If melee is your coup of tea, I would suggest getting back to the melee section of the forum.

 

[Mr.C]

Ok, so.....Brawl was a wonderful game, melee was ok.

Favoritism aside, you CAN NOT judge the game yet, as it is still being developed and there are flaws that will have to be worked out between now and then.
This thread is a waste of yours and everyone else's time, and is somewhat-likely to spawn a flame war. Come back when the official trailer for the finished game has come out and you have PLAYED it.Only then do you have the right to judge it. If it is balanced well it will be a fantastic game. If you don't like it, go jerk off to Melee like you have been for years.

If melee is your coup of tea, I would suggest getting back to the melee section of the forum.

I can judge the game. Those "development flaws" weren't worked out for Brawl and they most likely won't be worked out for SSB4. They WANT the game play to be like that. Quit being delusional, the game is a Brawl copy & paste.

You're not even giving it a chance.

And you realize that Sakurai is playing with only one hand each while playing both characters right?

I didn't (or anyone with common sense for that matter) need to give Brawl a chance to know it was complete and utter garbage compared to Melee.

And no he's not... He's playing the white guy literally two feet away from him.

 

[TewnLeenk]

Hey guys, let's all judge a game that none of us have even played!

Seriously, quit whining. It's a new Smash Bros. That's good.

 

[BSP]

Completely obvious they're following in the footsteps of Brawls game-engine and physics. The graphics already look out dated for a game coming out in 2014 (it looks almost exactly like Brawl). If you watch the game-play footage you'll notice: No L-Canceling, auto edge-grab, no hit-stun, and no shielding while in dash animation. SSB4 still has Brawls terrible dash physics, floatiness, clunky walking/running/jumping mechanics it's not Melee.

What does this mean? It means the people who love Melees vastly deep competitive game-play will have to stick to Melee for another decade or two because this game is going to be another Brawl is not Melee. It's a sad day for the competitive Smash community Smash players that wanted another Melee...a sad day indeed.

What I read. Seriously though, where'd you see auto ledge grabbing?

If this game doesn't please you, just stick with what you like and leave it at that.

 

[nessokman]

I can judge the game. Those "development flaws" weren't worked out for Brawl and they most likely won't be worked out for SSB4. They WANT the game play to be like that. Quit being delusional, the game is a Brawl copy & paste.



I didn't (or anyone with common sense for that matter) need to give Brawl a chance to know it was complete and utter garbage compared to Melee.

And no he's not... He's playing the white guy literally two feet away from him.

.There are fans of Brawl here you could be insulting them with your blatant opinionated posts. I'd go ahead and stop if i were you

 

[KingofPhantoms]

A hate thread already? And the graphics to me look better than Brawl's and if they actually aren't, I don't really care. I also agree with what Nessokman said, the game should not be judged by anyone before you actually see a trailer of the finished game or play it.

I look forward to the day this stupid Hate thread is locked. The game will likely have several differences from the past games. It's probably Not going to be another Brawl, it's probably Not going to be another Melee.

If you don't like the game, then just stay with Melee and please avoid ranting on about your hatred of it to people who are actually looking forward to it.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

this topic looks like a "melee is better than brawl" topic disguised as a "SSB4 is bad" topic

Bad troll bait is extremely bad.

 

[Jigglymaster]

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

 

[Mr.C]

What I read. Seriously though, where'd you see auto ledge grabbing?

If this game doesn't please you, just stick with what you like and leave it at that.

The auto edge-grab mechanics are exactly like Brawls.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqxDPJmO6f8&feature=youtu.be&t=5m15s

A hate thread already? And the graphics to me look better than Brawl's and if they actually aren't, I don't really care. I also agree with what Nessokman said, the game should not be judged by anyone before you actually see a trailer of the finished game or play it.

That makes zero sense. The game play footage for Brawl was EXACTLY the same as the released product. I said the same thing about Brawl game play before it was officially released and was right. SSB4 is a Brawl copy & paste, it's as simple as that.

Hey guys, let's all judge a game that none of us have even played!

Seriously, quit whining. It's a new Smash Bros. That's good.

A bad new Smash Bros. That's not good.

this topic looks like a "melee is better than brawl" topic disguised as a "SSB4 is bad" topic

Bad troll bait is extremely bad.

Calling Melee better than Brawl regarding skill & competitive depth isn't troll bait. It's an empirical fact.

All I'm doing is shedding light on SSB4 mechanics. The competitive Smash community as a whole doesn't like Brawl very much. SSB4 is nearly identical to Brawl, that's a problem for people wanting to take the game seriously.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

The fact that you can play as Wii Fit Trainer girl makes it instantly better than Melee.

 

[BSP]

The auto edge-grab mechanics are exactly like Brawls.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqxDPJmO6f8&feature=youtu.be&t=5m15s

On closer inspection, I see it. Darn it.

 

[FalKoopa]

Even SmashChu is better than you, Mr. C. With that, I'm done with this thread.

 

[TewnLeenk]

Ok. Go buy an airplane ticket. Fly down to Los Angeles. Get into E3. Play the game for yourself. Fly back home. Log into Smashboards. And then you can tell us if the game is good or bad.

You're being whiney about a game you literally have never played and have seen maybe about 20 minutes of actual gameplay. Stop being a goof.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

The auto edge-grab mechanics are exactly like Brawls.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqxDPJmO6f8&feature=youtu.be&t=5m15s



That makes zero sense. The game play footage for Brawl was EXACTLY the same as the released product. I said the same thing about Brawl game play before it was officially released and was right. SSB4 is a Brawl copy & paste, it's as simple as that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FO83eZdWks

Compare how Kirby swings his hammer to how he does it in the final game. Your argument is invalid.

And just because you were "right" about Brawl, doesn't mean you'll be right about Smash 4.

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

It's the first day.

 

[Frostwraith]

Judging an entire game from a single trailer. How classy.

 

[Mr.C]

Ok. Go buy an airplane ticket. Fly down to Los Angeles. Get into E3. Play the game for yourself. Fly back home. Log into Smashboards. And then you can tell us if the game is good or bad.

You're being whiney about a game you literally have never played and have seen maybe about 20 minutes of actual gameplay. Stop being a goof.

There are already several game play videos released. The game play is pretty much completely identical to Brawl.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQD1yJinzeQ&t

Judging an entire game from a single trailer. How classy.

Wrong. I'm not basing anything off the trailer. I'm basing my opinions on the GAME PLAY videos released.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQD1yJinzeQ&t

SSB4 is literally a Brawl copy & paste.

 

[TewnLeenk]

There are already several game play videos released. The game play is pretty much completely identical to Brawl.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQD1yJinzeQ&t



Wrong. I'm not basing anything off the trailer. I'm basing my opinions on the GAME PLAY videos released.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQD1yJinzeQ&t

SSB4 is literally a Brawl copy & paste.

Ok that's it. I'm out of here. Enjoy moping in your lonesome while we all enjoy this game.

 

[Mr.C]

Ok that's it. I'm out of here. Enjoy moping in your lonesome while we all enjoy this game.

Enjoy your games competitive community completely dying out in 1-2 years because it's a Brawl clone.

 

[TewnLeenk]

Enjoy your games competitive community completely dying out in 1-2 years because it's a Brawl clone.

Batman has spoken. You're all alone.

 

[peeup]

everything is subject to change.

Everything is subject to change.

EVERYTHING IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE.

Grow a pair of testicles and stop whining about a game that clearly isn't even close to being half finished. Holy ****. You've seen less than 10 minutes of gameplay from a version like a year before it will actually be released, and you already know it's going to be the worst game in the history of video games.

Go play in traffic.

 

[Renji64]

There is legit gameplay on youtube i can understand the feels of being let down after brawl why is it so hard for this series to top older entries in the series I'll wait till it is finally released before final judgement but my hyped died.

 

[nessokman]

All I'm doing is shedding light on SSB4 mechanics. The competitive Smash community as a whole doesn't like Brawl very much. SSB4 is nearly identical to Brawl, that's a problem for people wanting to take the game seriously.

I messaged a mod on this guys, waiting to see what happens.

"Enjoy your games competitive community completely dying out in 1-2 years because it's a Brawl clone"
well, To be a clone wouldn't it need to be EXACTLY the same? I believe that the competitive scene for this game will survive longer than 1-2 years, no facts, but i think it will.


You are stating your opinion C, but you play that off as fact. When you try to pass your own opinions off as fact, your argument becomes irrelevant to people with factual basis for their argument. The naked eye can only pick up so much from video. Most of what you say is biased nonsense that nobody on here wants to hear.

I believe pretty much everyone wants this locked



~okman

 

[Frostwraith]

Wrong. I'm not basing anything off the trailer. I'm basing my opinions on the GAME PLAY videos released.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQD1yJinzeQ&t

SSB4 is literally a Brawl copy & paste.

Except that is a demo of an unfinished game that's not even close to be released. Tweaks and changes will be made for the final version.

You're being kind of stupid for judging an entire game when all we've seen is just the tip of the iceberg.

 

[Mr.C]

everything is subject to change.

Everything is subject to change.

EVERYTHING IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE.

Grow a pair of testicles and stop whining about a game that clearly isn't even close to being half finished. Holy ****. You've seen less than 10 minutes of gameplay from a version like a year before it will actually be released, and you already know it's going to be the worst game in the history of video games.

Go play in traffic.

Worst game? No. A game that is following in the footsteps of Brawl (the worse Smash game in the franchise and the worse competitive game out of the three)? Yes. If you think game play is going to change significantly, you're naive. It's obvious they're using Brawl physics.

Except that is a demo of an unfinished game that's not even close to be released. Tweaks and changes will be made for the final version.

You're being kind of stupid for judging an entire game when all we've seen is just the tip of the iceberg.

Exactly what people said about Brawl.

I messaged a mod on this guys, waiting to see what happens.

You are stating your opinion C, but you play that off as fact. When you put your own opinions off as fact, your argument becomes irrelevant to people with actual facts. Most of what you say is biased nonsense that nobody on here wants to hear.

I believe pretty much everyone wants this locked



~okman

SSB4 mechanics and game play are identical to Brawl: Fact.
The competitive Smash community as a whole doesn't like Brawl very much: Fact.

I'm not seeing an opinion here.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

Wii Fit Trainer is confirmed. I'm going to commit suicide now. Never mind that most of the other newcomers haven't even been revealed yet.

 

[peeup]

Worst game? No. A game that is following in the footsteps of Brawl (the worse Smash game in the franchise and the worse competitive game out of the three)? Yes. If you think game play is going to change significantly, you're naive. It's obvious they're using Brawl physics.

Change significantly? No. A game that is following in the footsteps of Brawl (your least favorite game in the franchise and the game that you find least competitive out of the three)? Yes, for now. If you think game play is not going to change at all, you're ****ing ********. It's obvious you need to grow a pair of testicles.