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"Melee elitism" is not a real thing. Everybody likes Smash 64. Everybody likes Melee. Most people dislike Brawl. Many Melee players hate Smash 4. People just hate bad games.
But Brawl and Smash 4 aren't Objectively bad games despite the consensus of people that don't like it. They're bad games in Your opinion. Opinions are Subjective.

Care for a non-Smash Bros example?
The Last of Us.
200 awards, GotY for many and 10s everywhere yet I see it as nothing more than a glorified Resident Evil 4 with stealth mechanics thrown in and an average multiplayer.
That doesn't mean that it is a glorified Resident Evil 4.

@ JesseMcCloud JesseMcCloud I explained why Melee elitism is not a thing. NOBODY I repeat NOBODY only likes Melee. Everybody likes Smash 64 and Melee. Brawl and Smash 4 on the other hand... that's a different story.
Saying "Everybody" is a sweeping generalisation that is false. There are several people who don't like Melee or Smash 64. They are old, out of date games. People want something that looks fresh and new instead of blocky graphics and crappy animations.
 
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Alright drop the 64/Melee/Brawl/4 before flaming infractions are handed out.

Like the game you like and respect other people's opinions.
 

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What are you talking about?
According to
"Melee elitism" is not a real thing. Everybody likes Smash 64. Everybody likes Melee. Most people dislike Brawl. Many Melee players hate Smash 4. People just hate bad games.
People hate bad games.
Melee players hate Sm4sh.
Therefore, Sm4sh is a bad game.

Whether or not a game is good is entirely subjective so a bad game nor good game can exist.

EDIT: Just saw the mod message and will withdraw
 
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@ JesseMcCloud JesseMcCloud I explained why Melee elitism is not a thing. NOBODY I repeat NOBODY only likes Melee. Everybody likes Smash 64 and Melee. Brawl and Smash 4 on the other hand... that's a different story.
Wow... Just. Wow.
This is literally the worst argument I've ever heard. "I'm not an elitist, you can't prove I'm an elitist, you can't prove anyone else is an elitist, thus elitism doesn't exist. This proves that my earlier opinion is fact. /thread."
EDIT: Didn't see the moderator's post.
 
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But Brawl and Smash 4 aren't Objectively bad games despite the consensus of people that don't like it. They're bad games in Your opinion. Opinions are Subjective.

Care for a non-Smash Bros example?
The Last of Us.
200 awards, GotY for many and 10s everywhere yet I see it as nothing more than a glorified Resident Evil 4 with stealth mechanics thrown in and an average multiplayer.


Saying "Everybody" is a sweeping generalisation that is false. There are several people who don't like Melee or Smash 64. They are old, out of date games. People want something that looks fresh and new instead of blocky graphics and crappy animations.
When I said people don't like bad games, I meant people don't like games that THEY think are bad. While I think Brawl and Smash 4 are bad games, others think they're good.
And I guess you're right about not everybody liking Smash 64 and Melee. Allow me to correct myself: MOST PEOPLE like Smash 64 and Melee. Better?

Alright drop the 64/Melee/Brawl/4 before flaming infractions are handed out.

Like the game you like and respect other people's opinions.
TBH I'm not trying to argue about which game is better. Someone mentioned "Melee Elitism" and I wanted to explain why that's not a thing.
 
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"Melee elitism" is not a real thing. Everybody likes Smash 64. Everybody likes Melee. Most people dislike Brawl. Many Melee players hate Smash 4. People just hate bad games.
...says the Melee elitist himself.

Melee players hate Smash 4 because it's not their 14 year old game that has a faster engine and lets you waveshine/wavedash/waveland. Believe me I hated Brawl with a passion because 1. No Mewtwo and 2. It was slow as hell.

Yes, I am very much aware of why people that would literally die for Melee hate Smash 4. But it's actually silly when you get people that will literally NEVER play the game (despite how wonderful it is) because it, y' know... ISN'T their exploited party game.

Melee is cool. Yeah... But seriously, been there and done that. Learn to accept that not everybody loves Melee as much as you.
 

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...says the Melee elitist himself.

Melee players hate Smash 4 because it's not their 14 year old game that has a faster engine and lets you waveshine/wavedash/waveland. Believe me I hated Brawl with a passion because 1. No Mewtwo and 2. It was slow as hell.

Yes, I am very much aware of why people that would literally die for Melee hate Smash 4. But it's actually silly when you get people that will literally NEVER play the game (despite how wonderful it is) because it, y' know... ISN'T their exploited party game.

Melee is cool. Yeah... But seriously, been there and done that. Learn to accept that not everybody loves Melee as much as you.
I'm not a Melee Elitist. I like Smash 64 and I like Melee. I'm fine with Brawl and I hate Smash 4. You need to accept that not everybody loves Smash 4 as you. I don't know about you, but I don't particularly like games that I think are bad.
 

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I'm not a Melee Elitist. I like Smash 64 and I like Melee. I'm fine with Brawl and I hate Smash 4. You need to accept that not everybody loves Smash 4 as you. I don't know about you, but I don't particularly like games that I think are bad.
I don't care if I get infracted for this because someone needs to say it.

Why even come to Sm4sh forums if you offer nothing but negativity?
 
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TBH I'm not trying to argue about which game is better. Someone mentioned "Melee Elitism" and I wanted to explain why that's not a thing.
Best to ignore opinions you disagree with, especially ones that are subjective. Fanboys suck in general. lol

And as a heads up, please avoid double posting.
 

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I don't care if I get infracted for this because someone needs to say it.

Why even come to Sm4sh forums if you offer nothing but negativity?
I don't try to offer negativity. People just say things that end up with me replying with things that they find negative.
 

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I don't try to offer negativity. People just say things that end up with me replying with things that they find negative.
It takes two people to argue. If you think something you're going say is going to provoke a negative/agressive reaction then you need to make sure you respond in a respectful manner (as to rid it of any negativity) or just not post at all.

If you do respond in a respectful manner and it still triggers an aggressive response you should drop the conversation and report the given post to the Staff.



Regardless, take this discussion to PMs or drop it entirely.
 

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Dang I haven't been in this thread for a while, but looking over all of this...

Forgive me, but a lot of this conflict seemed pretty unnecessary imo. Main points of respecting others' opinions and posting respectfully have been said, so I won't continue on the matter.

In a change of subject, are we watching @ cstonic cstonic do jokes?



THAT'S NOT FUNNY! OFF WITH HIS HEAD!
Okay, try to do jokes?
 
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Dang I haven't been in this thread for a while, but looking over all of this...

Forgive me, but a lot of this conflict seemed pretty unnecessary imo. Main points of respecting others' opinions and posting respectfully have been said, so I won't continue on the matter.

In a change of subject, are we watching @ cstonic cstonic do jokes?

He should be dead but the King of Mew2s has no executors. Wanna be one?
 
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Anyone got an anti-Greninja joke? Vice versa from Greninja > Mewtwo jokes.
Ever since Mewtwo was announced, Greninja needed a new source for his power since Mewtwo/Mewtwo fanboy tears were no longer available?

....I can do better....
 

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THAT'S NOT FUNNY! OFF WITH HIS HEAD!

I have no executors. Didn't think this through
:^(
Dang I haven't been in this thread for a while, but looking over all of this...

Forgive me, but a lot of this conflict seemed pretty unnecessary imo. Main points of respecting others' opinions and posting respectfully have been said, so I won't continue on the matter.

In a change of subject, are we watching @ cstonic cstonic do jokes?

I have a joke completely unrelated to Greninja and smash.





Whats the name of the guy with no arms and no legs and lives your mailbox?









Bill.
 
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