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Spirit Mode will Obsolete Tier Lists

Birdygamer

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I think with what spirit Mode will look like, it will negate the purpose of the tier lists because now you can use spirits to take care of any disadvantage your character has. Like Zelda for example, she's always been a low tier character due to her weight and other cons, but spirit mode might help with those problems hence tier lists losing their credibility.
 

Luigifan18

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I think with what spirit Mode will look like, it will negate the purpose of the tier lists because now you can use spirits to take care of any disadvantage your character has. Like Zelda for example, she's always been a low tier character due to her weight and other cons, but spirit mode might help with those problems hence tier lists losing their credibility.
Ah ha ha ha no. Spirits will not be allowed in competitive play.
 

Jakisthe

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How could you possibly think that spirits would be in competitive? I mean, didn't they even say that they're turned off online? And then, of course, the competitive scene is even *more* stringent about balance than their online settings.
 

Birdygamer

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How could you possibly think that spirits would be in competitive? I mean, didn't they even say that they're turned off online? And then, of course, the competitive scene is even *more* stringent about balance than their online settings.
On th direct, it said that you can fight other players around the world in spirit mode
 

Luigifan18

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The Spirits have a rock-paper-scissors triangle thing going on. They are inherently designed to throw a monkey wrench into matchups. The competitive scene is having none of that ****.
 

Crystanium

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Tier lists will always exist. Assume spirit support was allowed. Who will do better with the same spirits?
 

Jexulus

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The issue with Spirit Mode seeing competitive play comes down to how they're acquired, the stat boosts, and the sheer length of time it would take to set up maxed loadouts on each individual console used at tournaments. It's beyond impractial.

Not to mention that these would inevitably get their own tier list if these saw competitive play anyway, so it would accomplish the exact opposite effect you're going for.
 

ParanoidDrone

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*blinks*

You're being exceedingly optimistic, to the point of foolishness if you'll allow me to be blunt about it, if you believe the competitive scene will allow Spirits to be used in tournament play.
 

Swaggy-G

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Yet another "We should allow thing in competitive so that weak characters will become stronger" thread.
Oh my f*cking god. When will you people realize that allowing a thing that makes weak characters stronger WILL ALSO MAKE STRONG CHARACTERS EVEN STRONGER?????? Seriously, please think for 5 seconds before making these types of threads.
 

Izanagi97

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Oh my f*cking god. When will you people realize that allowing a thing that makes weak characters stronger WILL ALSO MAKE STRONG CHARACTERS EVEN STRONGER?????? Seriously, please think for 5 seconds before making these types of threads.
I think I also saw this as one of the reasons Riven mods in Warframe were a crapshoot
 

S_B

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Oh my f*cking god. When will you people realize that allowing a thing that makes weak characters stronger WILL ALSO MAKE STRONG CHARACTERS EVEN STRONGER?????? Seriously, please think for 5 seconds before making these types of threads.
This.

Custom moves in SSB4 would've been much better except that they also made characters like Rosa and Sheik even stronger.
 

Luigifan18

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This.

Custom moves in SSB4 would've been much better except that they also made characters like Rosa and Sheik even stronger.
This isn't like allowing custom moves, this is like allowing equipment.
No. Just no.
 

maxistrife

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I do not want to play online with spirits anyway, as I am against characters being tweaked against their weaknesses. Every character has their ups and downs, and mastering THOSE is what makes you truly good with a character...not padding your short comings with BASICALLY hacks =P
 

ps_

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Stickers 2.0 won't be allowed in competitive play, but I would like to see a tournament where people compete with the most OP creations possible.
 
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