sonic is faster than captain falcon
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SPEED: Fox vs Sonic
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E-Jolteon
Smash Ace
Agreed. Sonic is suppose to be brokenly fast.
Meta_Sonic64
Smash Master
Your post fails miserably
yes it has to be a mistake to let the fastest creature alive be faster than a racing Chuck Norris (as awesome as he is, he doesnt need speed to be kewl)
Pluvia's other account
Smash Master
Clearly Sonic's going to be the fastest Character in Brawl.
We knew that even before he was confirmed.
We knew that even before he was confirmed.
chaos_Leader
Smash Lord
Sonic is supposed to be insanely fast on his feet, no-one is going to have a faster running speed than Sonic. However, It seems that Fox is faster in the air had has a slightly quicker moves. If you're talking raw velocity, Sonic wins hands-down, but for quick, fast moves, Fox most likely still wins there
Knyaguy
Smash Lord
QFT. The more power to ya!
spindash
Smash Ace
Nobody can ever take away the title of "The Fastest Thing Alive" from a character like Sonic the Hedgehog. Comparing Fox to Sonic is pathetic. While Fox is still a very, very, very fast character, Sonic is just that much faster. He captures the true essence of speed, and so that shall remain the same in Super Smash Bros. Brawl.
smashbot226
Smash Master
I think Shadow is faster than Sonic, but that may be because he has shoes that increase his speed... and he has Chaos Control...
InvincibleAgent
Smash Lord
"Hey, it's not his speed. He's using the Chaos Emerald to warp!"
chaos_Leader
Smash Lord
Physics nitpicking...
Disclaimer: I know its video games and science really doesn't matter much to you, but I'll try a whack at it anyway.
[physics lesson] (see: Newton's three laws of motion)
Sonic's foot applies a force at an angle into the ground while running,
The normal force of the ground prevents Sonic's foot from sinking through or breaking the ground, Thus any force applied downward will react upward. If enough force is applied, the reactionary force of the ground can overcome gravity for a short time, or a jump. It is an ideal method to minimize contact with the ground and deal with only air resistance as an opposing force while moving forward.
Since Sonic applies the force of his foot at an angle behind him, one of the resolved vectors points behind him.
The friction of the ground reacts to the force of the foot, keeping the foot from sliding back.
Since the force of the foot is applied to the ground at an angle directed behind Sonic, the reactionary force of friction will react in the opposite direction, forward. Since there is very little opposing force, a forward acceleration is achieved[/physics lesson]
(What I bet you're thinking:
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A shoe is intended to amplify the reactionary force of friction with a tread on the sole of the shoe. I would think the intention of Sonic's shoes is the opposite of what you claim. Without extraordinarily high friction soles, Sonic would slip and slide rather than be able to perform the feats of acrobatics he has shown.
But of course this is video-games we're talking about; for all they care, they can throw-out the laws of physics and substitute their own if they choose. I'm really just nitpicking, don't take it personally, or even seriously if you choose.
where'd you get that idea from? Friction is an essential force for an object such as a shoe.
Disclaimer: I know its video games and science really doesn't matter much to you, but I'll try a whack at it anyway.
[physics lesson] (see: Newton's three laws of motion)
Sonic's foot applies a force at an angle into the ground while running,
The normal force of the ground prevents Sonic's foot from sinking through or breaking the ground, Thus any force applied downward will react upward. If enough force is applied, the reactionary force of the ground can overcome gravity for a short time, or a jump. It is an ideal method to minimize contact with the ground and deal with only air resistance as an opposing force while moving forward.
Since Sonic applies the force of his foot at an angle behind him, one of the resolved vectors points behind him.
The friction of the ground reacts to the force of the foot, keeping the foot from sliding back.
Since the force of the foot is applied to the ground at an angle directed behind Sonic, the reactionary force of friction will react in the opposite direction, forward. Since there is very little opposing force, a forward acceleration is achieved[/physics lesson]
(What I bet you're thinking:
)A shoe is intended to amplify the reactionary force of friction with a tread on the sole of the shoe. I would think the intention of Sonic's shoes is the opposite of what you claim. Without extraordinarily high friction soles, Sonic would slip and slide rather than be able to perform the feats of acrobatics he has shown.
But of course this is video-games we're talking about; for all they care, they can throw-out the laws of physics and substitute their own if they choose. I'm really just nitpicking, don't take it personally, or even seriously if you choose.
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Shadow had little rockets on the bottom of his shoes. Hence why his running style was the form of rollerskating.
Plus most of his notable speed was from the chaos emeralds. Sonic > Shadow.
As for the fox vs sonic, uh.. I'd have to say Sonic. Though fox is a quick guy in the air, sonic is still the very mascot for speed. And now he's in brawl.
Shadow had little rockets on the bottom of his shoes. Hence why his running style was the form of rollerskating.
Plus most of his notable speed was from the chaos emeralds. Sonic > Shadow.
As for the fox vs sonic, uh.. I'd have to say Sonic. Though fox is a quick guy in the air, sonic is still the very mascot for speed. And now he's in brawl.
Meta_Sonic64
Smash Master
I don't really get this at all. Seeing as Sonic's spin dash moves are all very fast when they're charged.
Meta_Sonic64
Smash Master
I'm applying it to air movement, but ok. I gotcha.
chaos_Leader
Smash Lord
the spin dash is one of the special moves, I don't factor Fox's illusion for his speed at all, if that were the case, then Fox would win. but this is disregarding specials. doesn't sonic take a little time to wind up the spin dash? I would think so (may be wrong, need to check)
Meta_Sonic64
Smash Master
Well, ok.
10char
Tom-Sawyer
Smash Cadet
He is tires of speed above all the other characters in the game. Sonic, that is.
where'd you get that idea from? Friction is an essential force for an object such as a shoe.
Disclaimer: I know its video games and science really doesn't matter much to you, but I'll try a whack at it anyway.
[physics lesson] (see: Newton's three laws of motion)
Sonic's foot applies a force at an angle into the ground while running,
The normal force of the ground prevents Sonic's foot from sinking through or breaking the ground, Thus any force applied downward will react upward. If enough force is applied, the reactionary force of the ground can overcome gravity for a short time, or a jump. It is an ideal method to minimize contact with the ground and deal with only air resistance as an opposing force while moving forward.
Since Sonic applies the force of his foot at an angle behind him, one of the resolved vectors points behind him.
The friction of the ground reacts to the force of the foot, keeping the foot from sliding back.
Since the force of the foot is applied to the ground at an angle directed behind Sonic, the reactionary force of friction will react in the opposite direction, forward. Since there is very little opposing force, a forward acceleration is achieved[/physics lesson]
(What I bet you're thinking:
A shoe is intended to amplify the reactionary force of friction with a tread on the sole of the shoe. I would think the intention of Sonic's shoes is the opposite of what you claim. Without extraordinarily high friction soles, Sonic would slip and slide rather than be able to perform the feats of acrobatics he has shown.
But of course this is video-games we're talking about; for all they care, they can throw-out the laws of physics and substitute their own if they choose. I'm really just nitpicking, don't take it personally, or even seriously if you choose.
His shoes decrease friction, not remove it. They allow him to run at his top speeds without injuring himself, that's what Soap Shoes do. And he does slip and slide, he isn't capable of a quick stop without grinding his heals into the ground and when you try to walk with him his legs go crazy.
Shadow's shoe's hover, they do not had to his speed. They puch against the ground so that no actual matter does. This removes the threat of injuring Shadow the same way Sonic's shoes do.
Honestly (this is addressed to Ruggeth) can you skate at a speed in excess of Mach 1? His shoes don't break the sound barrier, he does, the shoes just maake it so he doesn't kill himself.
Chaosblade77
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Sonic > Falcon > Rest.
I figure if anyone is going to have any competition with Sonic in speed what so ever, it's Captain Falcon. The real reason for that is he was meant to be the speed demon for Nintendo once he hit Smash Bros, obvious since he is the fastest. I suspect Sonic will have him beat by a pretty decent margin, but Falcon will be the closest to Sonic since he has always been based around movement speed.
I figure if anyone is going to have any competition with Sonic in speed what so ever, it's Captain Falcon. The real reason for that is he was meant to be the speed demon for Nintendo once he hit Smash Bros, obvious since he is the fastest. I suspect Sonic will have him beat by a pretty decent margin, but Falcon will be the closest to Sonic since he has always been based around movement speed.
Venom NY
Smash Lord
if no1 else noticed sonics moves are extremely weak and hes not that fast well at least not 2 me i think fox wins.
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I believe PeteBeast was specifically referring to running speed. Sonic certainly bests Fox there.
gangstajuice02
Smash Ace
i love fox a lot but mayb sonic is faster than fox mayb just a lil!!!
Erow Devastates
Smash Cadet
i say sonic is faster, com on hes sonic but fox will still own him
ZOMGjesustruck
Smash Rookie
sonic is faster than fox, he'll probably be like fox with bunny ears
KarnIge WoLF
Smash Cadet
Falco will be faster, but heck I think he is gone in brawl. Sonic is faster.
Pluvia's other account
Smash Master
Falco is probably one of the only Melee Characters who has a 50/50 chance of returning.
And no, even if he does, Sonic will still be waaay faster.
And no, even if he does, Sonic will still be waaay faster.
Dragonbreath
Smash Ace
You can't outjump gravity.
You can't outmuscle a tank.
YOU CAN'T OUTRUN SONIC.
Do I need to get the Gimpyquote in here?
As far as atacking speed is concerned, Eforallers say that his moves are extremely fluid and comboable, so I'm thinking that means they must be pretty **** fast. Maybe not as fast as Fox, but probably quicker than Mario's. Can anyone from Eforall clarify that last bit?
You can't outmuscle a tank.
YOU CAN'T OUTRUN SONIC.
Do I need to get the Gimpyquote in here?
As far as atacking speed is concerned, Eforallers say that his moves are extremely fluid and comboable, so I'm thinking that means they must be pretty **** fast. Maybe not as fast as Fox, but probably quicker than Mario's. Can anyone from Eforall clarify that last bit?
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Here you go:
Attacking speed: High
Sonic's moves are quite fast, and comboable just as well. He does not outshine(go nuts, I said shine) Fox in attacking speed, but he sure is fast in alot of attacks. Yes, his spindash outshines Jigglypuff's spin. But its not as fast as his running speed, though...but its just as fast as Jigglypuff's fully charged spin!
Running speed: Fastest
Alright, here's why Captain Falcon or Fox will NOT be able to beat him. Sonic can run at 753 miles a hour at will, without help of anything else. Captain Falcon is a mere human, and his F zero machine is already slightly slower than Sonic can run in real time. How do you expect him to keep up without it. As for Fox, he's slower than Captain Falcon, and Captain Falcon was just explained.
Attacking Power: Moderate
Sonic's attack aren't all really powerfull, but they're quite fast and comboable, and certain moves certainly can be deadly. He doesn't kill at low percentages, but is he's quite good at edge guarding, so thats an option.
Attacking speed: High
Sonic's moves are quite fast, and comboable just as well. He does not outshine(go nuts, I said shine) Fox in attacking speed, but he sure is fast in alot of attacks. Yes, his spindash outshines Jigglypuff's spin. But its not as fast as his running speed, though...but its just as fast as Jigglypuff's fully charged spin!
Running speed: Fastest
Alright, here's why Captain Falcon or Fox will NOT be able to beat him. Sonic can run at 753 miles a hour at will, without help of anything else. Captain Falcon is a mere human, and his F zero machine is already slightly slower than Sonic can run in real time. How do you expect him to keep up without it. As for Fox, he's slower than Captain Falcon, and Captain Falcon was just explained.
Attacking Power: Moderate
Sonic's attack aren't all really powerfull, but they're quite fast and comboable, and certain moves certainly can be deadly. He doesn't kill at low percentages, but is he's quite good at edge guarding, so thats an option.
Mad555
Smash Ace
Sonic seems to be fastest character now, so yes i see sonic being faster than Fox.
They didnt make Fox slower, did they?
They didnt make Fox slower, did they?
Torchik
Smash Ace
Yeah, I think Sonic should be faster...he's made for speed. And from the reviews, people are saying his speed is almost uncontrollable, unlike Fox.
gamer8
Smash Lord
Well, of course the world's fastest living thing, Sonic the Hedgehog is faster!
ZOMGjesustruck
Smash Rookie
i think that fox's final smash will make him faster than sonic without his
knuckles_18
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Sonic should be faster and looking at the videos it looks like he defiantly is which leaves the question is fox slow then he was in melee or is sonic just to fast.
fox could still be the second fastest with CF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lRbA50VIW8
sonic is really really fast but fox is the best... for me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lRbA50VIW8
sonic is really really fast but fox is the best... for me
kobefox2485
Smash Apprentice
Eternal phoenix Fire
Smash Hero
Sonic is faster than Fox, but his attacks are weaker. His KO Potential isn't that great. Fox is Slower, is attacks d average damage. His KO potential is decent This anylisis is the basc gist of Fox and Sonic. But who attacks faster?........
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