Sorcerer's 11 Open

[Lore]

I’m sorry, but I’m lost. How does funnier voting for ExLight make him scum? And how am I “all over the map”? Genuinely confused.

Also this is case-in-point about why rhyming makes posts difficult to understand.

Given that Osieorb ignored my posts completely and continues to do haikus, my vote remains. If I missed a proper reply from Osie, I apologize.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

I will likely never ever in my life ever believe Poy when he says “genuinely confused”

Love you too, but this does not indicate alignment.

 

[funnier6]

Love you too, but this does not indicate alignment.

I don’t recall saying it did

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

I don’t recall saying it did

Touché. How do you read Xivii and Raxxel? I got them as leaning town, but maybe you don’t?

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

btw when the game starts we wont be allowed to edit our posts. you can multi-post as much as you want though

We do have a rule :/

 

[funnier6]

Touché. How do you read Xivii and Raxxel? I got them as leaning town, but maybe you don’t?

I don’t have a read on basically at this moment except I feel inclined to think your town from your extreme activity and I wanted to think Lore was town earlier from some things he said but idr what they were

Tbh idr who the heck the people you’re asking me about are

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Tbh idr who the heck the people you’re asking me about are

Understandable.

Raxxel I want you to talk more about Z25 because Xivii has already shared their opinions.

 

[osieorb18]

A short note to some:
Haiku's in ALL my site posts.
No team is implied.

I've ran many games.
Two games were all in Haiku.
A few plays alike.

Lack of full function
To isolate a player
Is an annoyance.

Not too bad, I guess.
I'll go with coldreads again.
Let's give it a try.

Utopia's great.
Lots of rabbit holes, but sharp.
Lots of townie pings.

One-Two-Three's quite town.
Depth of content there for days.
If wolf, VERY good.

One-Two-Nine talks of
Off-site investigation.
Often a town-tell.

One-Four-Nine may be
a pure response to question.
Doesn't feel bad.

There's some later pings.
I don't think they're god-tier wolf.
So here's a townread.

Xi has a bad start,
Though their posts become townie.
They're a hypocrite.

Though one of Xi's posts
Number One-Seventy-Eight,
Townleans them for me.

Still some concerns there,
Though I do now townlean them,
Don't want Xi LyLO.

Raxxel starts okay.
Defense of Xi at worst's NAI?
Joking start's my jam.

One-Eight-Five's likely
Town questioning reads from town?
Just a gutread here.

Two-Fourteen is meh.
Fence-sitty on Z25.
It could be nothing.

I think Two-Two-One
Turns that around for me well.
A townie defense?

Two-Five-One contains
A town tell moment from Rax.
Unprompted Focus.

Two-wolf reminder
Out of the blue in this game.
Looks like a town move.

Ranmaru seems pure?
I like their talk with Mamboo.
Do not think we've played?

I'd like ranmaru
To tell me one little thing.
Why interesting?

To be specific,
Mentioning Colosseum.
What is notable?

Ranmaru walkthrough
Of my Xi wolfleaning post...
A townie defense.

Push on me is bad,
But backdown is very good.
REALization.

Of ExLight's comment
of "Good thing it's RVS",
It's a slight wolf ping.

But ExLight themself
Is very null to me this game.
I want to see more.

Pythag's mystery:
I very much hate their reads.
Wolfy? Not quite there.

Pythag's Two-Six-Three
Could be quite legitimate.
Still in POE.

"Mamboo is a clown."
I agree with this assessment.
And I'm not amused.

Either Mamboo is
An EXTREME troll, should be gone.
Or maybe just wolf.

Funnier exists.
They span wolfy to useless.
Intentionally.

Funnier should be...
On everyone's chopping block.
Second waste of space.

Z-twenty-five jumps...
In one-eight-seven onto...
Haiku LHF.

Fence-sitting follows,
Then word count argument,
Not based on content.

Z-two-five clearly...
Barely reads my posts when it's...
Of their own accord.

Two-Zero-Three's a...
Wolfy side-teardown of a...
Motivating Post.

Two-Eighteen is an...
Example of cherry-picking.
And a free handwave.

Re: Two-Thirty-Six
Maybe Z25 's phone's
Illegitimate.

Lore's activity
Is in forty straight minutes.
Similar wolf tone.

Activity excuse,
Followed by serious vote...
Due to LHF.

Backup arguments...
Are flimsy and aggressive.
"Wahh! No Questioning!"

Awful wording here:
"you're sticking your neck out here"
Scumread writes itself.

Clear Town versus Scum...
Appears between Xi and Lore.
Looking at Lore's tone.

Lore wants to setup
A Xi mislynch regardless
Of my alignment.

Shading Xi to
Have grounds for a later push.
No actual read.

Two-Twenty-Seven
Is just purely shade of Xi.
Also Two-Two-Eight.

Two-Thirty-One is...
Classic handwaving away
Of townie concerns.

Two-Thirty-Seven
Reinforces shade of Xi.
All in one package.

Is it so easy?
This game of reads we have here?
Three quite-blatant scum.

I gotta Vote: Lore.
Also, one final message.
To Z25 .

Take this lack of words,
And slather it all over...
Enjoy it, ya scum.

 

[Raxxel]

Understandable.

Raxxel I want you to talk more about Z25 because Xivii has already shared their opinions.

Z25 and Lore are both doubling down on their dislike of Osie's haiku format. From what I've read, Z's reasoning is at least fair enough, though I think he is overselling how valuable a word count is. Personally, I think someone posting a paragraph of word salad that ultimately offers little in the way of actual content is far more anti-town than someone bringing content in a short and concise format. It's true that the less you say, the easier it is to not slip up as scum, but this reasoning isn't strong enough in my opinion, especially in the face of osie doubling down on their speech pattern. A scum player would more likely try and appease this early into the game. However, despite me disagreeing with Z's attack on Osie, I'm not getting a strong scum read at the moment from him. This early into the game, I can't blame him for going after the speech pattern of someone since he has little to go on for anyone else.

 

[Raxxel]

A short note to some:
Haiku's in ALL my site posts.
No team is implied.

I've ran many games.
Two games were all in Haiku.
A few plays alike.

Lack of full function
To isolate a player
Is an annoyance.

Not too bad, I guess.
I'll go with coldreads again.
Let's give it a try.

Utopia's great.
Lots of rabbit holes, but sharp.
Lots of townie pings.

One-Two-Three's quite town.
Depth of content there for days.
If wolf, VERY good.

One-Two-Nine talks of
Off-site investigation.
Often a town-tell.

One-Four-Nine may be
a pure response to question.
Doesn't feel bad.

There's some later pings.
I don't think they're god-tier wolf.
So here's a townread.

Xi has a bad start,
Though their posts become townie.
They're a hypocrite.

Though one of Xi's posts
Number One-Seventy-Eight,
Townleans them for me.

Still some concerns there,
Though I do now townlean them,
Don't want Xi LyLO.

Raxxel starts okay.
Defense of Xi at worst's NAI?
Joking start's my jam.

One-Eight-Five's likely
Town questioning reads from town?
Just a gutread here.

Two-Fourteen is meh.
Fence-sitty on Z25.
It could be nothing.

I think Two-Two-One
Turns that around for me well.
A townie defense?

Two-Five-One contains
A town tell moment from Rax.
Unprompted Focus.

Two-wolf reminder
Out of the blue in this game.
Looks like a town move.

Ranmaru seems pure?
I like their talk with Mamboo.
Do not think we've played?

I'd like ranmaru
To tell me one little thing.
Why interesting?

To be specific,
Mentioning Colosseum.
What is notable?

Ranmaru walkthrough
Of my Xi wolfleaning post...
A townie defense.

Push on me is bad,
But backdown is very good.
REALization.

Of ExLight's comment
of "Good thing it's RVS",
It's a slight wolf ping.

But ExLight themself
Is very null to me this game.
I want to see more.

Pythag's mystery:
I very much hate their reads.
Wolfy? Not quite there.

Pythag's Two-Six-Three
Could be quite legitimate.
Still in POE.

"Mamboo is a clown."
I agree with this assessment.
And I'm not amused.

Either Mamboo is
An EXTREME troll, should be gone.
Or maybe just wolf.

Funnier exists.
They span wolfy to useless.
Intentionally.

Funnier should be...
On everyone's chopping block.
Second waste of space.

Z-twenty-five jumps...
In one-eight-seven onto...
Haiku LHF.

Fence-sitting follows,
Then word count argument,
Not based on content.

Z-two-five clearly...
Barely reads my posts when it's...
Of their own accord.

Two-Zero-Three's a...
Wolfy side-teardown of a...
Motivating Post.

Two-Eighteen is an...
Example of cherry-picking.
And a free handwave.

Re: Two-Thirty-Six
Maybe Z25 's phone's
Illegitimate.

Lore's activity
Is in forty straight minutes.
Similar wolf tone.

Activity excuse,
Followed by serious vote...
Due to LHF.

Backup arguments...
Are flimsy and aggressive.
"Wahh! No Questioning!"

Awful wording here:
"you're sticking your neck out here"
Scumread writes itself.

Clear Town versus Scum...
Appears between Xi and Lore.
Looking at Lore's tone.

Lore wants to setup
A Xi mislynch regardless
Of my alignment.

Shading Xi to
Have grounds for a later push.
No actual read.

Two-Twenty-Seven
Is just purely shade of Xi.
Also Two-Two-Eight.

Two-Thirty-One is...
Classic handwaving away
Of townie concerns.

Two-Thirty-Seven
Reinforces shade of Xi.
All in one package.

Is it so easy?
This game of reads we have here?
Three quite-blatant scum.

I gotta Vote: Lore.
Also, one final message.
To Z25 .

Take this lack of words,
And slather it all over...
Enjoy it, ya scum.

Are you saying that both Lore and Z25 are scum?

Because honestly I'm not sure about that, I think that would be WAY too obvious. No way a scum duo would want to attack the same person early game and risk association with each other like what is happening right now. As it stands it's one or the other to me.

 

[osieorb18]

Are you saying that both Lore and Z25 are scum?

Because honestly I'm not sure about that, I think that would be WAY too obvious. No way a scum duo would want to attack the same person early game and risk association with each other like what is happening right now. As it stands it's one or the other to me.

Lore appears to me
To be more likely than Z.
Z's in POE.

 

[osieorb18]

Funny Story, too.
If you wordcount me and Z.
I'm times 1.5.

 

[osieorb18]

An edit, by the way.
A double-posting edit.
It is glorious.

 

[Xivii]

Are you saying that both Lore and Z25 are scum?

Because honestly I'm not sure about that, I think that would be WAY too obvious. No way a scum duo would want to attack the same person early game and risk association with each other like what is happening right now. As it stands it's one or the other to me.

This earns a solid town read from me.

 

[Xivii]

Osie when you cite a post be number, can you link to the post you're referring to? It's hard to follow otherwise.

 

[osieorb18]

Are you saying that both Lore and Z25 are scum?

Because honestly I'm not sure about that, I think that would be WAY too obvious. No way a scum duo would want to attack the same person early game and risk association with each other like what is happening right now. As it stands it's one or the other to me.

Come sit on my lap,
My poor innocent baby.
I've stories to tell.

Stories which may scare
But are truely fantastic.
Wondrous wolfy games.

 

[osieorb18]

Osie when you cite a post be number, can you link to the post you're referring to? It's hard to follow otherwise.

I'll keep that in mind.
Thank you for the reminder.
And now for a nap.

 

[Z25]

A short note to some:
Haiku's in ALL my site posts.
No team is implied.

I've ran many games.
Two games were all in Haiku.
A few plays alike.

Lack of full function
To isolate a player
Is an annoyance.

Not too bad, I guess.
I'll go with coldreads again.
Let's give it a try.

Utopia's great.
Lots of rabbit holes, but sharp.
Lots of townie pings.

One-Two-Three's quite town.
Depth of content there for days.
If wolf, VERY good.

One-Two-Nine talks of
Off-site investigation.
Often a town-tell.

One-Four-Nine may be
a pure response to question.
Doesn't feel bad.

There's some later pings.
I don't think they're god-tier wolf.
So here's a townread.

Xi has a bad start,
Though their posts become townie.
They're a hypocrite.

Though one of Xi's posts
Number One-Seventy-Eight,
Townleans them for me.

Still some concerns there,
Though I do now townlean them,
Don't want Xi LyLO.

Raxxel starts okay.
Defense of Xi at worst's NAI?
Joking start's my jam.

One-Eight-Five's likely
Town questioning reads from town?
Just a gutread here.

Two-Fourteen is meh.
Fence-sitty on Z25.
It could be nothing.

I think Two-Two-One
Turns that around for me well.
A townie defense?

Two-Five-One contains
A town tell moment from Rax.
Unprompted Focus.

Two-wolf reminder
Out of the blue in this game.
Looks like a town move.

Ranmaru seems pure?
I like their talk with Mamboo.
Do not think we've played?

I'd like ranmaru
To tell me one little thing.
Why interesting?

To be specific,
Mentioning Colosseum.
What is notable?

Ranmaru walkthrough
Of my Xi wolfleaning post...
A townie defense.

Push on me is bad,
But backdown is very good.
REALization.

Of ExLight's comment
of "Good thing it's RVS",
It's a slight wolf ping.

But ExLight themself
Is very null to me this game.
I want to see more.

Pythag's mystery:
I very much hate their reads.
Wolfy? Not quite there.

Pythag's Two-Six-Three
Could be quite legitimate.
Still in POE.

"Mamboo is a clown."
I agree with this assessment.
And I'm not amused.

Either Mamboo is
An EXTREME troll, should be gone.
Or maybe just wolf.

Funnier exists.
They span wolfy to useless.
Intentionally.

Funnier should be...
On everyone's chopping block.
Second waste of space.

Z-twenty-five jumps...
In one-eight-seven onto...
Haiku LHF.

Fence-sitting follows,
Then word count argument,
Not based on content.

Z-two-five clearly...
Barely reads my posts when it's...
Of their own accord.

Two-Zero-Three's a...
Wolfy side-teardown of a...
Motivating Post.

Two-Eighteen is an...
Example of cherry-picking.
And a free handwave.

Re: Two-Thirty-Six
Maybe Z25 's phone's
Illegitimate.

Lore's activity
Is in forty straight minutes.
Similar wolf tone.

Activity excuse,
Followed by serious vote...
Due to LHF.

Backup arguments...
Are flimsy and aggressive.
"Wahh! No Questioning!"

Awful wording here:
"you're sticking your neck out here"
Scumread writes itself.

Clear Town versus Scum...
Appears between Xi and Lore.
Looking at Lore's tone.

Lore wants to setup
A Xi mislynch regardless
Of my alignment.

Shading Xi to
Have grounds for a later push.
No actual read.

Two-Twenty-Seven
Is just purely shade of Xi.
Also Two-Two-Eight.

Two-Thirty-One is...
Classic handwaving away
Of townie concerns.

Two-Thirty-Seven
Reinforces shade of Xi.
All in one package.

Is it so easy?
This game of reads we have here?
Three quite-blatant scum.

I gotta Vote: Lore.
Also, one final message.
To Z25 .

Take this lack of words,
And slather it all over...
Enjoy it, ya scum.

See this is a lot more substance. So thank you, I hope that you can post more walls like this. Like Xi said I was just about to ask for quote links too.

So you find Lore as scum. Your points are interesting, I do wonder if your right about it being to easy. I would normally say yes but I’ve seen scum Lore play and town lore play and both can have similar behavior.

 

[Lore]

Cool, I sure do love having the page stretched out and have a post be less easily readable. This haiku playstyle is ridiculous.

 

[Lore]

Come sit on my lap,
My poor innocent baby.
I've stories to tell.

Stories which may scare
But are truely fantastic.
Wondrous wolfy games.

This is also a nonsense answer that dodges the question through flimsy anecdotal evidence. Your reads on both Z25 and myself reek of OMGUS and defensive, reactive play.

 

[Xivii]

Cool, I sure do love having the page stretched out and have a post be less easily readable. This haiku playstyle is ridiculous.

Yet they do it every game so it's NAI. You want to lynch someone on a 2/10 roll of the dice rather than on something scummy?

 

[Lore]

Yet they do it every game so it's NAI. You want to lynch someone on a 2/10 roll of the dice rather than on something scummy?

If it means making the game flat out more enjoyable and readable, yes. I'd do the same if someone was being inactive. DGames as a whole needs to start actually pushing against things that make games less fun.

 

[Lore]

I also firmly dislike Osieorb's reads on Z25 and myself, and they seem to view pressure-laying in general as scummy. Which is insanity.

 

[funnier6]

Funnier exists.
They span wolfy to useless.
Intentionally.

Funnier should be...
On everyone's chopping block.
Second waste of space.

Danggg

Did you not like my haiku?

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Dooplissity VC?

 

[Raxxel]

Funnier definitely gives off Rajam in my first mafia game vibes to me. Lacks presence in early game, does just enough to skate by in the first day to not be outright called out for inactivity. Definitely not liking this slot.

 

[Raxxel]

And for those without context, Rajam along with FrozenFlame were both werewolves in a multi-faction game. They both survived to the very end and taught me a valuable lesson in not voting hastily in endgame.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

A short note to some:
Haiku's in ALL my site posts.
No team is implied.

I've ran many games.
Two games were all in Haiku.
A few plays alike.

Lack of full function
To isolate a player
Is an annoyance.

Not too bad, I guess.
I'll go with coldreads again.
Let's give it a try.

Utopia's great.
Lots of rabbit holes, but sharp.
Lots of townie pings.

One-Two-Three's quite town.
Depth of content there for days.
If wolf, VERY good.

One-Two-Nine talks of
Off-site investigation.
Often a town-tell.

One-Four-Nine may be
a pure response to question.
Doesn't feel bad.

There's some later pings.
I don't think they're god-tier wolf.
So here's a townread.

Xi has a bad start,
Though their posts become townie.
They're a hypocrite.

Though one of Xi's posts
Number One-Seventy-Eight,
Townleans them for me.

Still some concerns there,
Though I do now townlean them,
Don't want Xi LyLO.

Raxxel starts okay.
Defense of Xi at worst's NAI?
Joking start's my jam.

One-Eight-Five's likely
Town questioning reads from town?
Just a gutread here.

Two-Fourteen is meh.
Fence-sitty on Z25.
It could be nothing.

I think Two-Two-One
Turns that around for me well.
A townie defense?

Two-Five-One contains
A town tell moment from Rax.
Unprompted Focus.

Two-wolf reminder
Out of the blue in this game.
Looks like a town move.

Ranmaru seems pure?
I like their talk with Mamboo.
Do not think we've played?

I'd like ranmaru
To tell me one little thing.
Why interesting?

To be specific,
Mentioning Colosseum.
What is notable?

Ranmaru walkthrough
Of my Xi wolfleaning post...
A townie defense.

Push on me is bad,
But backdown is very good.
REALization.

Of ExLight's comment
of "Good thing it's RVS",
It's a slight wolf ping.

But ExLight themself
Is very null to me this game.
I want to see more.

Pythag's mystery:
I very much hate their reads.
Wolfy? Not quite there.

Pythag's Two-Six-Three
Could be quite legitimate.
Still in POE.

"Mamboo is a clown."
I agree with this assessment.
And I'm not amused.

Either Mamboo is
An EXTREME troll, should be gone.
Or maybe just wolf.

Funnier exists.
They span wolfy to useless.
Intentionally.

Funnier should be...
On everyone's chopping block.
Second waste of space.

Z-twenty-five jumps...
In one-eight-seven onto...
Haiku LHF.

Fence-sitting follows,
Then word count argument,
Not based on content.

Z-two-five clearly...
Barely reads my posts when it's...
Of their own accord.

Two-Zero-Three's a...
Wolfy side-teardown of a...
Motivating Post.

Two-Eighteen is an...
Example of cherry-picking.
And a free handwave.

Re: Two-Thirty-Six
Maybe Z25 's phone's
Illegitimate.

Lore's activity
Is in forty straight minutes.
Similar wolf tone.

Activity excuse,
Followed by serious vote...
Due to LHF.

Backup arguments...
Are flimsy and aggressive.
"Wahh! No Questioning!"

Awful wording here:
"you're sticking your neck out here"
Scumread writes itself.

Clear Town versus Scum...
Appears between Xi and Lore.
Looking at Lore's tone.

Lore wants to setup
A Xi mislynch regardless
Of my alignment.

Shading Xi to
Have grounds for a later push.
No actual read.

Two-Twenty-Seven
Is just purely shade of Xi.
Also Two-Two-Eight.

Two-Thirty-One is...
Classic handwaving away
Of townie concerns.

Two-Thirty-Seven
Reinforces shade of Xi.
All in one package.

Is it so easy?
This game of reads we have here?
Three quite-blatant scum.

I gotta Vote: Lore.
Also, one final message.
To Z25 .

Take this lack of words,
And slather it all over...
Enjoy it, ya scum.

Towniest post of the whole game.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Unlike osie though, Lore’s frustration seems genuine and I don’t think it’s inherently scummy. Probably town. Z25’s the move in my opinion.

Vote: Z25

Z25 I still don’t think I truly know what you’re thinking about the game. How do you feel about Raxxel in #306 ? How do you feel about Raxxel in general?

This question expands to everybody, but I still want to get a feel of where 25’s head is at.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Probably town.

Townier than Z25, not automatically town for being frustrated. I’m dumb.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

ExLight , my brother from a brother’s brother, do you have anything to add?

 

[Raxxel]

When my phone has better charge later, I think I want to compile a list of thoughts on everyone so far. Specific posts and all for reasoning.

 

[ExLight]

Whomst'd've'ly'yaint'nt'ed'ies's'y'es is this "Scum" guy i'm seeing?

I think this gave me brain damage
does anyone know how old this kid is and if they're just trolling

 

[ExLight]

ExLight , my brother from a brother’s brother, do you have anything to add?

I said I was going to be busy yesterday
quickly skimming the thread right now but most of it is some mumbo jumbo that I can't pay attention in the mobile; I'll be on my PC soon and I'll start with a quick Meta introduction and try to give some half assed reads just so I catch up

 

[Raxxel]

I think this gave me brain damage
does anyone know how old this kid is and if they're just trolling

They kinda have a history in the general thread of being... off, to be polite. So this isn't necessarily surprising to me.

 

[Mamboo07]

I think this gave me brain damage
does anyone know how old this kid is and if they're just trolling

I'm 16. (Ok, I'm not trolling.)

 

[ExLight]

Between the strange posts, the post editing, and the confusing request to replace out then not replacing, I'd prefer Mamboo to be replaced out. No offense Mamboo.

We really should host a few newbie-focused games again, tbh.

same

 

[Mamboo07]

Between the strange posts, the post editing, and the confusing request to replace out then not replacing, I'd prefer Mamboo to be replaced out. No offense Mamboo.

We really should host a few newbie-focused games again, tbh.

I don't mind being replaced. (It's okay.)

 

[funnier6]

I said I was going to be busy yesterday
quickly skimming the thread right now but most of it is some mumbo jumbo that I can't pay attention in the mobile; I'll be on my PC soon and I'll start with a quick Meta introduction and try to give some half assed reads just so I catch up

If you do my introduction I’ll do yours

 

[ExLight]

If you do my introduction I’ll do yours

I feel like you'd say something like "he's stupidly insane and spams :bulbacute: and :fetchd: so I'm fine with introducing myself lol

funnier is coolz and smart tho folks
but he can get really dense and fidgety at some points too