In hindsight, it's funny how Digi here predicted 3 of these characters (2 of which in the same E3 2019).
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I doubt it. It has been known for a while that the DLC has already been decided, and I don't think they would try to make changes so late.Something just occurred to me, remember in Brawl how Sega originally refused to let Sonic be in the game, but then later changed their minds - which happened late into production & caused the game to be delayed? This shows that companies can change their mind on allowing their character to be included, even if it’s late.
Well this could line up with Imran Khan’s claim that Disney Japan said “no” & that there are fighters in this fighters pass.
I’m probably looking way too much into this, but I’m just optimistic & wishing for Sora to be in the game.
reference of Sonic: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OGmACelA2sA&t=317s 5.00 minutes in.
Sora is Disney. It doesn't even matter if all of his moves and his stage are just strictly Kingdom Hearts references with no Disney references, Disney has to approve his inclusion into Smash Bros.Sora doesn't have a lot of Disney with him in the first place. If you were to make a moveset for him the absolute most you would include with him is Donald and Goofy.
I'm 90% sure if the rule is "No Disney" you can still make a good moveset for him just using the actual game.
If you replaced Roxas with Ventus, we would have had all of the Guardians of Light.There was a problem fetching the tweetSeveral Nendoroids of KH characters were confirmed.
Once again, Disney's not as strict with the KH license as people make them out to be.
This is completely believable. Nintendo has a history of publishing Square Enix games so I wouldn't be surprised if Square Enix is asking for too much money for Nintendo's liking.I'm assuming he's refering to this theory
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Seems more coincidental, but I'll admit this is far more believable than the Switch not being powerful enough to run PS2 games when we're getting a Crash 4 on Switch, a current gen game with very few compromises.
I'd actually love the idea of that, the game would be visually coherent with the previous Kingdom Hearts entries if they did that.Conspiracy theory:
They are going to demake KH3 so it can run properly on switch, that's why they make PS2 quality models of Sora and Kairi's Kh3 designs.
It's only a Final Fantasy spinoff because of the Final Fantasy cameos. Kingdom Hearts has evolved beyond that. Even so, he is not a Final Fantasy character, because if he was, he would be owned by Square Enix.Yeah, smash 4 had half of it's DLC dedicated to RPG characters.
Officially speaking Kingdom hearts has always been a Final fantasy spin off series like Tactic and Crystal chronicles, so Sora is in fact a final fantasy protagonist.
This is completely intentional on Walt Disney Animation Studios part, they were directly involved with the narratives of Tangled, Frozen and Big Hero 6 in Kingdom Hearts III.T'is too easy.
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Me too but we have a big lack of knowledge. If Nintendo asked for Sora to be in FP1, then that gives plenty of time for Disney to change their minds for FP2 - with the characters being finalised by November/December 2019 at the very latest.I doubt it. It has been known for a while that the DLC has already been decided, and I don't think they would try to make changes so late.
Well, that's assuming changes would need to be made at all. Even if Sora's not in the second fighters' pass, there's nothing stopping the team from including stand-alone DLC characters post FP2. Or, y'know, them making an FP3.I doubt it. It has been known for a while that the DLC has already been decided, and I don't think they would try to make changes so late.
Mondo Mega said that, Imran Khan was speculating that Disney Japan would be the biggest hurdle.Well this could line up with Imran Khan’s claim that Disney Japan said “no” & that there are fighters in this fighters pass.
And yet, with the recent wave of SE games that's been/being ported to the Switch, I can't help but disagree with that sentiment. SE has already admitted to the difficulty of porting the KH games over to the Swich. Keeping the time frame of the released ports on other consoles in mind, it's easy to make the connection that porting the KH franchise to other consoles is a lot more difficult than everybody else makes it out to be.This is completely believable. Nintendo has a history of publishing Square Enix games so I wouldn't be surprised if Square Enix is asking for too much money for Nintendo's liking.
if you ask me fans rarely have realistic expectationsAnd yet, with the recent wave of SE games that's been/being ported to the Switch, I can't help but disagree with that sentiment. SE has already admitted to the difficulty of porting the KH games over to the Swich. Keeping the time frame of the released ports on other consoles in mind, it's easy to make the connection that porting the KH franchise to other consoles is a lot more difficult than everybody else makes it out to be.
Hayley's a part of a union?I never really thought about this before, if Cloud and Sephiroth were restricted to their Japanese voice actors, Sora probably would be too, huh?
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i imagine its which ever one is in charge of english localizationIs it Square or Disney that pays Haley?
Really? The only character I can think of who shows up in Smash and shared a voice actor with a KH character is Silver (who shared a voice with Lea), and Silver doesn't have a voiced line in Smash.Smash has some actors like that, it has actors that have had roles in KH.
Ray Chase who voices the Master of Masters, also voices Roy in Smash.Really? The only character I can think of who shows up in Smash and shared a voice actor with a KH character is Silver (who shared a voice with Lea), and Silver doesn't have a voiced line in Smash.
Ooooh that's cool thanks for the infoRay Chase who voices the Master of Masters, also voices Roy in Smash.
well normua did say there wouldnt be any announcements until next year but then i think the epic store versions were announced after that so maybeSo does anyone think we will see anything Kingdom Hearts related in this Square Enix presentation? I doubt it but there's still a chance.
Yeah same, obviously I'd prefer if Haley Joel Osmont's voice was there because that's the one I grew up with and am used to, but obviously if I had to choose between just having the Japanese VA and no Sora at all, I'd pick the japanese va.I'll be honest I don't care if its just the japanese VA, I just want the character himself.
I feel oldHappy 19th anniversary!
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I was younger than sora in the first game when this came out now I’m nearly twice the age he was in number 2
so?I just realized; KH1 released in Japan the day before a certain other game.
I just thought it was a funny coincidence that these two games share the same week of release.
Sora (KINGDOM HEARTS III) (KINGDOM HEARTS) Fighter Spirit; earned by:
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Sora (KINGDOM HEARTS II) (KINGDOM HEARTS) Fighter Spirit; earned by:
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1. Shadow (KINGDOM HEARTS) Class: ★ Type: Support (Attack) Cost: ⬡ Effect: Easier Dodging
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2. Riku (KINGDOM HEARTS) Class: ★★★ Type: Primary (Attack) Slots: ⬡⬡ Effect: Critical-Health Attack ↑
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3. Kairi (KINGDOM HEARTS) Class: ★★ Type: Primary (Shield) Slots: ⬡⬡ Effect: Healing Shield
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4. Naminé (KINGDOM HEARTS: Chain of Memories) Class: ★★ Type: Support (Shield) Cost: ⬡ Effect: Slumber Immunity
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5. Axel (KINGDOM HEARTS: Chain of Memories) Class: ★★ Type: Primary (Grab) Slots: ⬡ Effect: Enhanceable at Lv. 99
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6. Marluxia (KINGDOM HEARTS: Chain of Memories) Class: ★★★ Type: Support (Grab) Cost: ⬡ Effect: Death's Scythe Equipped
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7. Roxas (KINGDOM HEARTS II) Class: ★★★ Type: Primary (Neutral) Slots: ⬡⬡⬡ Effect: Critical Fast FS Charge
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8. Xion (KINGDOM HEARTS: 358/2 Days) Class: ★★ Type: Support (Grab) Cost: ⬡ Effect: Trade-Off Attack ↑
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9. Aqua (KINGDOM HEARTS: Birth by Sleep) Class: ★★★ Type: Support (Shield) Cost: ⬡ Effect: Floaty Jumps
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10. Terra (KINGDOM HEARTS: Birth by Sleep) Class: ★ Type: Primary (Attack) Slots: ⬡ Effect: Enhanceable at Lv. 99
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11. Ventus (KINGDOM HEARTS: Birth by Sleep) Class: ★★ Type: Support (Grab) Cost: ⬡ Effect: Trade-Off Speed ↑
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12. Young Xehanort (KINGDOM HEARTS 3D: Dream Drop Distance) Class: ★★★ Type: Primary (Neutral) Slots: ⬡⬡⬡ Effect: Enhanceable at Lv. 99
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13. Donald Duck and Goofy (KINGDOM HEARTS) Class: ★★★★ Type: Support (Neutral) Cost: ⬡⬡⬡ Effect: Chance of Sudden Final Smash
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yeah but just about any game series will share a release week with anotherI just thought it was a funny coincidence that these two games share the same week of release.
Speaking of dates, I decided to make a Spirit Board that looks more like it could feasibly work for a DLC Spirit Board, featuring some of the most notable characters from each game.
View attachment 309078 Sora (KINGDOM HEARTS III) (KINGDOM HEARTS)
Fighter Spirit; earned by:
- Clearing Classic Mode
- Buying from the shop
View attachment 309077 Sora (KINGDOM HEARTS II) (KINGDOM HEARTS)
Fighter Spirit; earned by:
- Buying from the shop
View attachment 309091 1. Shadow (KINGDOM HEARTS)
Class: ★
Type: Support (Attack)
Cost: ⬡
Effect: Easier Dodging
- Puppet Fighter: x13 (default)
- Reinforcements: Giant x7 (Color 8)
- Stage: Station of Awakening (Battlefield)
- Music Track: Dive Into the Heart / Destati
- Match: Stamina (5HP)
- Conditions:
- Stamina battle
- Defeat an army of fighters
- The enemy is occasionally invisible
View attachment 309089 2. Riku (KINGDOM HEARTS)
Class: ★★★
Type: Primary (Attack)
Slots: ⬡⬡
Effect: Critical-Health Attack ↑
- Puppet Fighter: (Color 8)
- Minions:
- Sora x2 (Colors 1 and 5)
- (Color 4)
- Stage: Station of Awakening (Destiny Islands)
- Music Track: Another Side
- Match: Stock (1)
- Conditions:
- Defeat the main fighter to win
- The enemy () starts the battle with a Rage Blaster
- The enemy's () has significantly increased attack power when badly damaged
View attachment 309084 3. Kairi (KINGDOM HEARTS)
Class: ★★
Type: Primary (Shield)
Slots: ⬡⬡
Effect: Healing Shield
- Puppet Fighter: Sora (Color 5)
- Minions:
- Sora x2 (Colors 1 and 3)
- Stage: Station of Awakening (Destiny Islands)
- Music Track: Bustin' Up on the Beach
- Match: Stock (1)
- Conditions:
- Defeat the main fighter to win
- The enemy heals significantly when badly damaged
View attachment 309088 4. Naminé (KINGDOM HEARTS: Chain of Memories)
Class: ★★
Type: Support (Shield)
Cost: ⬡
Effect: Slumber Immunity
- Puppet Fighter: (Color 8)
- Stage: Living Room (Battlefield)
- Music Track: Sinister Sundown / Working Together
- Match: Stock (1)
- Conditions:
- You constantly take minor damage
- The enemy tends to avoid conflict
- The floor is sleep-inducing
View attachment 309081 5. Axel (KINGDOM HEARTS: Chain of Memories)
Class: ★★
Type: Primary (Grab)
Slots: ⬡
Effect: Enhanceable at Lv. 99
- Puppet Fighter: (Color 2)
- Stage: (Omega)
- Music Track: The 13th Struggle
- Match: Stock (1)
- Conditions:
- The floor is lava
- The enemy's thrown items have increased power
- Fire/explosion attacks heal the enemy
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Axel (Bond of the Blaze) (KINGDOM HEARTS: Chain of Memories)
Class: ★★★
Type: Primary (Grab)
Slots: ⬡⬡
Effect: Fire/Explosion HealingView attachment 309086 6. Marluxia (KINGDOM HEARTS: Chain of Memories)
Class: ★★★
Type: Support (Grab)
Cost: ⬡
Effect: Death's Scythe Equipped
- Puppet Fighter: (Color 6, 110HP)
- Minion: (Color 7, 120HP)
- Stage: Station of Awakening (Castle Oblivion)
- Music Track: Lord of the Castle
- Match: Timed Stamina (1:39)
- Conditions:
- The enemy () favors neutral specials
- The enemy () starts the battle with Death's Scythe
- You constantly take minor damage
View attachment 309090 7. Roxas (KINGDOM HEARTS II)
Class: ★★★
Type: Primary (Neutral)
Slots: ⬡⬡⬡
Effect: Critical Fast FS Charge
- Puppet Fighter: Sora (Color 4)
- Stage: Station of Awakening (Omega)
- Music Track: The Other Promise
- Match: Stock (1)
- Conditions:
- The enemy will suddenly have a Final Smash when badly damaged
- The enemy's Final Smash meter charges quickly
- The enemy starts the battle with Death's Scythe
View attachment 309094 8. Xion (KINGDOM HEARTS: 358/2 Days)
Class: ★★
Type: Support (Grab)
Cost: ⬡
Effect: Trade-Off Attack ↑
- Puppet Fighter: Giant Metal Sora (Color 6)
- Stage: Station of Awakening (Twilight Town)
- Music Track: Vector to the Heavens
- Match: Stock (1)
- Conditions:
- The enemy favors special moves
- The enemy will charge up a powerful Final Smash
View attachment 309079 9. Aqua (KINGDOM HEARTS: Birth by Sleep)
Class: ★★★
Type: Support (Shield)
Cost: ⬡
Effect: Floaty Jumps
- Puppet Fighter: Sora (Color 7)
- Stage: Station of Awakening (Land of Departure)
- Music Track: Fate of the Unknown
- Match: Stock (1)
- Conditions:
- The enemy favors neutral specials
- The enemy falls slowly
- The enemy’s magic attacks have increased power
View attachment 309092 10. Terra (KINGDOM HEARTS: Birth by Sleep)
Class: ★
Type: Primary (Attack)
Slots: ⬡
Effect: Enhanceable at Lv. 99
- Puppet Fighter: (Color 7)
- Stage: Gerudo Valley (Omega)
- Music Track: Rage Awakened
- Match: Stock (1)
- Conditions:
- The enemy’s attack power increases when badly damaged
- The enemy turns gold when badly damaged
- The enemy has super armor when badly damaged
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Lingering Will (KINGDOM HEARTS II FINAL MIX)
Class: ★★★★
Type: Primary (Attack)
Slots: ⬡⬡⬡
Effect: Unflinching Charged Smashes & Super ArmorView attachment 309093 11. Ventus (KINGDOM HEARTS: Birth by Sleep)
Class: ★★
Type: Support (Grab)
Cost: ⬡
Effect: Trade-Off Speed ↑
- Puppet Fighter: Sora (Color 8)
- Stage: Station of Awakening (Omega)
- Music Track: Unbreakable Chains
- Match: Stock (1)
- Conditions:
- The enemy’s speed increases when badly damaged
- The enemy’s Final Smash meter charges quickly
View attachment 309095 12. Young Xehanort (KINGDOM HEARTS 3D: Dream Drop Distance)
Class: ★★★
Type: Primary (Neutral)
Slots: ⬡⬡⬡
Effect: Enhanceable at Lv. 99
- Puppet Fighter: (Color 7)
- Reinforcements:
- Sora (Color 3)
- w/Beam Sword (default)
- (Color 3)
- Stage: Umbra Clock Tower (Omega)
- Music Track: Forza Finale
- Match: Timed (3:00)
- Conditions:
- The floor is frozen
- Reinforcements appear after the enemy () is defeated
- Hostile Assist Trophies (Shadow)
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Master Xehanort (KINGDOM HEARTS: Birth by Sleep)
Class: ★★★★
Type: Primary (Neutral)
Slots: ⬡⬡⬡
Effect: Double Final SmashView attachment 309082View attachment 309083 13. Donald Duck and Goofy (KINGDOM HEARTS)
Class: ★★★★
Type: Support (Neutral)
Cost: ⬡⬡⬡
Effect: Chance of Sudden Final Smash
- Puppet Fighter: Sora (default)
- Minion: (Color 2)
- Stage: Station of Awakening
- Music Track: Hand in Hand
- Match: Stock (1)
- Conditions:
- The enemy heals significantly when badly damaged
- The enemy’s defense increases significantly when badly damaged
- The enemy (Sora) will suddenly have a Final Smash
Hell, we can also point out how their logic splits hairs on specifics. Like how Joker doesn't come with ANY Shinmegami Tensei demons despite them being the biggest part of the series, yet we're expected to believe that KH without any Disney animated characters isn't proper representation, and wouldn't/shouldn't happen as a result. It's a reaching argument at best and a despereate one at worst.There was a problem fetching the tweetJust wanted to take another jab at anti-Sora folk.
they might as well say you cant have kirby without any stage from the 21st century gamesHell, we can also point out how their logic splits hairs on specifics. Like how Joker doesn't come with ANY Shinmegami Tensei demons despite them being the biggest part of the series, yet we're expected to believe that KH without any Disney animated characters isn't proper representation, and wouldn't/shouldn't happen as a result. It's a reaching argument at best and a despereate one at worst.
He does, though - going by the copyright information at the start of every Kingdom Hearts game, anything not specifically mentioned (such as Tarzan, Final Fantasy, or the World Ends With You, which are all credited to their owners) is owned by Disney, including the original characters like Sora, Riku, Kairi, Xehanort, etc.It would not be difficult to avoid the Disney references. Sora's moveset would come whole cloth out of the actual games (seriously, his moveset is ridiculously easy to transfer over from source games) and doesn't have a Disney connection.
Let it goThe only Disney stuff needed is Sora's Final Smash where he falls down the mountains of Frozen over and over. Again and again.
........yea...I did not like that world.
Oh, well that is distressing. I thought if they just focused on the original content that it would be less legal heads involved with adding Sora to Smash.He does, though - going by the copyright information at the start of every Kingdom Hearts game, anything not specifically mentioned (such as Tarzan, Final Fantasy, or the World Ends With You, which are all credited to their owners) is owned by Disney, including the original characters like Sora, Riku, Kairi, Xehanort, etc.
Also, this is Disney - they're definitely legally petty enough to make that an issue, seeing as they've changed copyright laws multiple times.