Social Sora Unlocks the Door! The Sora Social Thread

[fogbadge]

A Nintendo Direct's been announced for tomorrow; it's 50 minutes long.

Hopefully there's some kind of Kingdom Hearts announcement - I don't see why they couldn't bring the Story So Far collection (or at least 1.5 and 2.5, since they're PS3 games) to the Switch, but then again, I'm not familiar with the internal schematics and any issues that the differences between the two consoles might cause.

that would nice but i doubt it

 

[M@R!3]

Out of all the fan songs why that one?

It's not a song.

 

[fogbadge]

It's not a song.

Oh it wasn’t? My bad

 

[Powerman293]

What sort of stupid Nomura twist are you expecting Sora to have in his trailer? For Sephiroth his trailer was just Advent Children.

 

[Hadokeyblade]

What sort of stupid Nomura twist are you expecting Sora to have in his trailer? For Sephiroth his trailer was just Advent Children.

That smash bros ultimate is canon and you have to play Sora's classic mode to understand KH4.

 

[Lyncario]

What sort of stupid Nomura twist are you expecting Sora to have in his trailer? For Sephiroth his trailer was just Advent Children.

Spoiler

We see Sora in out world as the begining, and he's looking at a SMash poster where you can see some cheesy tagline like "The Smash of the century! Cloud vs Link!", Sora misses him and his friends, but then Sora hears Cloud calling him from the poster, and pulls him in to help fight Darkhon and Sephiroth. And of course, Sora's final boss in classic mode would be Sephiroth, except you fight him as if you would be playing KH3 instead of Smash.

 

[PLATINUM7]

A Nintendo Direct's been announced for tomorrow; it's 50 minutes long.



Hopefully there's some kind of Kingdom Hearts announcement - I don't see why they couldn't bring the Story So Far collection (or at least 1.5 and 2.5, since they're PS3 games) to the Switch, but then again, I'm not familiar with the internal schematics and any issues that the differences between the two consoles might cause.

Square Enix has been extremely vague about why the KH collections haven't come to Switch. They cite "technical limitations" but no one understands what that means.

Is it an issue of porting the games to ARM from the PS4 x86 version? Is it the cartridge sizes being to small to fit even 1 of the PS3 collections? Is it too weak to have the games run an acceptable performance level by SE? Who knows.

The original HD collections were built ground up for the PS3 since the source code was lost. Since the PS3 was a nightmare to develop for, the games were most likely optimised for it which would create difficulties porting it to other consoles.

Honestly, with them being ported to PS4, Xbox and PC, I really hope it is just a matter of time for them to put in the effort to bring them to Switch. I can understand not getting II.8 and III but at least do the first two collections.

 

[Hadokeyblade]

The original HD collections were built ground up for the PS3 since the source code was lost. Since the PS3 was a nightmare to develop for, the games were most likely optimised for it which would create difficulties porting it to other consoles.

That actually only applies to the first game, the second, BBS and COM were just ports. And the 2 films could easily be ported as its just cinematics.

 

[MonkeyDLenny]

where did you hear this?

I'm assuming he's refering to this theory

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Seems more coincidental, but I'll admit this is far more believable than the Switch not being powerful enough to run PS2 games when we're getting a Crash 4 on Switch, a current gen game with very few compromises.

 

[PLATINUM7]

Any evidence for those payment claims?

With Disney seemingly more involved in the series, going so far as to suggest making Melody of Memory, I'd be more inclined to theorise Disney was asking for the ports to be made.

 

[Hadokeyblade]

Conspiracy theory:

They are going to demake KH3 so it can run properly on switch, that's why they make PS2 quality models of Sora and Kairi's Kh3 designs.

 

[PLATINUM7]

Conspiracy theory:

They are going to demake KH3 so it can run properly on switch, that's why they make PS2 quality models of Sora and Kairi's Kh3 designs.

The Crash 4 port actually uses different assets so that's had me thinking something similar could happen.

Though SE isn't Activision so it's just wishful thinking.

 

[Vector Victor]

I'm assuming he's refering to this theory

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Seems more coincidental, but I'll admit this is far more believable than the Switch not being powerful enough to run PS2 games when we're getting a Crash 4 on Switch, a current gen game with very few compromises.

Plot twist: Nintendo isn't paying for KH3 because they spent their budget on getting Sora in Smash.

Between the two, I'll take Smash Sora over KH series on the Switch.

 

[Powerman293]

Conspiracy theory:

They are going to demake KH3 so it can run properly on switch, that's why they make PS2 quality models of Sora and Kairi's Kh3 designs.

On one hand that could work given almost every character in KH has a PS2 style model (except new outfit Riku, Yozora and Chirity). But on the other hand they'd have to redo all the worlds then as well....

 

[Hadokeyblade]

On one hand that could work given almost every character in KH has a PS2 style model (except new outfit Riku, Yozora and Chirity). But on the other hand they'd have to redo all the worlds then as well....

Well Twilight town, Keyblade graveyard and 100 acre woods are pretty much done so that's 3 worlds of work completed lol

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Would be sick.

yooo hold up, what if... they've been waiting for a direct to double announce kingdom hearts for switch and sora for smash? 👀 pic.twitter.com/lzNZnJ8PfZ

— im salt (@imsaltYT) February 16, 2021

 

[PLATINUM7]

Would be sick.

Would be a video game cream dream for sure.

 

[Vector Victor]

They reveal the KH games coming to Switch, then cut to Sora, Riku and Kairi on a green field, Sora yells "Heartless" and stands ready.....then Kirby's black alt walks into screen. Cue explosion.

 

[Hadokeyblade]

They reveal the KH games coming to Switch, then cut to Sora, Riku and Kairi on a green field, Sora yells "Heartless" and stands ready.....then Kirby's black alt walks into screen. Cue explosion.

Don't forget that Mario has to get injured.

 

[Vector Victor]

Don't forget that Mario has to get injured.

Only after the fight where he unloads end game moves, obliterates his opponent and doesn't get hit but the following cutscene has to have him being knocked on his ass and later saved because story.

No, I'm not bitter about that Ven vs Vanitas fight. Nope.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Preach!

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[Hadokeyblade]

Preach!

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Personally i feel like they wouldn't want to double dip on Final fantasy characters, i'd be glad to be proven wrong though.

 

[fogbadge]

Personally i feel like they wouldn't want to double dip on Final fantasy characters, i'd be glad to be proven wrong though.

but hes not a FF character, he was just made by the same people

 

[Powerman293]

Pack it up boys for this pass. I was hoping Sora could get in on a technicality and the fact that they've let 2 JRPG characters in FP1. But Pyra/Mythra now kind of closed that opprotunity.

 

[fogbadge]

Pack it up boys for this pass. I was hoping Sora could get in on a technicality and the fact that they've let 2 JRPG characters in FP1. But Pyra/Mythra now kind of closed that opprotunity.

i dont think theres a limit to how many from a genre we can get

 

[Hadokeyblade]

i dont think theres a limit to how many from a genre we can get

Yeah, smash 4 had half of it's DLC dedicated to RPG characters.

but hes not a FF character, he was just made by the same people

Officially speaking Kingdom hearts has always been a Final fantasy spin off series like Tactic and Crystal chronicles, so Sora is in fact a final fantasy protagonist.

 

[fogbadge]

Yeah, smash 4 had half of it's DLC dedicated to RPG characters.

sort of depending on what you cant FE as

Officially speaking Kingdom hearts has always been a Final fantasy spin off series like Tactic and Crystal chronicles, so Sora is in fact a final fantasy protagonist.

officially speaking its a crossover so hes not

 

[PLATINUM7]

Yeah, smash 4 had half of it's DLC dedicated to RPG characters.


Officially speaking Kingdom hearts has always been a Final fantasy spin off series like Tactic and Crystal chronicles, so Sora is in fact a final fantasy protagonist.

KH didn't even originally have FF characters until the team managed to convince Nomura to have them. I don't think Square has ever even marketed the game as FF spin offs or described them that way in any official manner.

Closest instance I can think of is the back of the KH box mentioning FF characters but that's about it.

 

[Vector Victor]

Characters' chances don't end until the roster is completed, and even then, that support carries over into the next game.

 

[Double0Groove]

Xenoblade 2 fans must be SUPER excited right about now

On our side though, we've got a handful of curious announcements. SE is now working on a big new Switch title, and two new ports. That's along side Bravley Default 2, which makes it 4 SE titles post Sephiroth's inclusion. For me, this only feeding into the idea that Sephiroth was included in part due to negotiations for Sora. Why? It's more of a hunch than anything, but seeing this much of a push for games on Nintendo's platform is a tad bit similar to how Hero was handled. Normally we get a slew of Nintendo titles from SE or MS before a character owned by them is revealed. Could just be nothing, but I'll keep a mental note on that. If we get another Square spirit event though then I'm putting money down that we either get Sora, Terra, Lara, or Chrono.

Something more relevant is that it seems we're getting ANOTHER Nintendo exclusive Disney game. Rather, it's exclusive as far as consoles are concerned. If that ends up being the case, that'll make it 3 games after Disney Tsum-tsum and Marvel Ultimate alliance that Switch owners will have exclusive access to. With 2/3 of those games being multi-platform no-brainers, it's painting a picture that Nintendo is getting preferential treatment. Probably due to a deal struck between the 2 companies, and it falls in line with the behavior most of the other companies, who have had their characters in Smash, have displayed.

Officially speaking Kingdom hearts has always been a Final fantasy spin off series like Tactic and Crystal chronicles, so Sora is in fact a final fantasy protagonist.

Where'd you hear that from? The KH franchise was never meant to be a spinoff of the FF series. It's just a series that features FF characters.

Pack it up boys for this pass. I was hoping Sora could get in on a technicality and the fact that they've let 2 JRPG characters in FP1. But Pyra/Mythra now kind of closed that opprotunity.

If that's your main concern, then you're kind of exaggerating the implications here dude. After all, that opportunity was pretty much assumed, not confirmed. Relax, we've still got 2 spots left (assuming this is even the final fighters pass).

 

[fogbadge]

Xenoblade 2 fans must be SUPER excited right about now

not really in my case

 

[Double0Groove]

not really in my case

Really? Was there someone else you wanted or were you just not interested in another Xenoblade rep?

 

[fogbadge]

Really? Was there someone else you wanted or were you just not interested in another Xenoblade rep?

more the former. im fine with more xenoblade stuff and 2 is my favourite of the three but i just like most of the other main characters more

 

[Hadokeyblade]

Xenoblade 2 fans must be SUPER excited right about now

On our side though, we've got a handful of curious announcements. SE is now working on a big new Switch title, and two new ports. That's along side Bravley Default 2, which makes it 4 SE titles post Sephiroth's inclusion. For me, this only feeding into the idea that Sephiroth was included in part due to negotiations for Sora. Why? It's more of a hunch than anything, but seeing this much of a push for games on Nintendo's platform is a tad bit similar to how Hero was handled. Normally we get a slew of Nintendo titles from SE or MS before a character owned by them is revealed. Could just be nothing, but I'll keep a mental note on that. If we get another Square spirit event though then I'm putting money down that we either get Sora, Terra, Lara, or Chrono.

Something more relevant is that it seems we're getting ANOTHER Nintendo exclusive Disney game. Rather, it's exclusive as far as consoles are concerned. If that ends up being the case, that'll make it 3 games after Disney Tsum-tsum and Marvel Ultimate alliance that Switch owners will have exclusive access to. With 2/3 of those games being multi-platform no-brainers, it's painting a picture that Nintendo is getting preferential treatment. Probably due to a deal struck between the 2 companies, and it falls in line with the behavior most of the other companies, who have had their characters in Smash, have displayed.



Where'd you hear that from? The KH franchise was never meant to be a spinoff of the FF series. It's just a series that features FF characters.


If that's your main concern, then you're kind of exaggerating the implications here dude. After all, that opportunity was pretty much assumed, not confirmed. Relax, we've still got 2 spots left (assuming this is even the final fighters pass).

You know that actually lines up with the idea that season 2 is just content they couldn't get into the game during base game. Like how in Steve's case it was that negotiations took forever to finish.

 

[Double0Groove]

You know that actually lines up with the idea that season 2 is just content they couldn't get into the game during base game. Like how in Steve's case it was that negotiations took forever to finish.

Maybe, but Sephiroth kinda throws a wrench in that theory. Unless we got confirmation somewhere that there was an attempt to bring him into the base game.

 

[Paraster]

Maybe, but Sephiroth kinda throws a wrench in that theory. Unless we got confirmation somewhere that there was an attempt to bring him into the base game.

I look at it as less "they wanted Sephiroth in base game" and more "Sephiroth was an opportunity to include the other FFVII content they wanted base game (music/spirits)."

 

[Hadokeyblade]

Maybe, but Sephiroth kinda throws a wrench in that theory. Unless we got confirmation somewhere that there was an attempt to bring him into the base game.

Well it's not the character itself but Sakurai implied during the Sephiroth presentation that it just takes forever to get approval from Square to do anything because of all the people involved in licensing, which is why Cloud has nothing with him in base.

That statement to me implied that Sephiroth was supposed to show up earlier but it took forever toget the ok.

 

[fogbadge]

Well it's not the character itself but Sakurai implied during the Sephiroth presentation that it just takes forever to get approval from Square to do anything because of all the people involved in licensing, which is why Cloud has nothing with him in base.

That statement to me implied that Sephiroth was supposed to show up earlier but it took forever toget the ok.

are you sure? it sounded more like this is why cloud how so little to me

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Funnily enough I could Pit doing something like this.

Just pulled a Dedede and Duck Hunt. xD

 

[Vector Victor]

Sora can't be in Snash as we already have too many key fighters in it.