Sonic VS Wolf

[Sagen du Smash]

Hello. I main Sonic and my most challenging matchup thus far has been against my friends Wolf.
His projectile stuns Sonic hard and even when I shield several blasts, he can still get me with one. Then once I've outrun his projectiles, Wolf's close range combat is quick and often stuns Sonic. His one true weakness is his recovery, which Sonic can gimp easily with the Homing Attack or Dair. But other than this, I'm having a hard time approaching Wolf. Can any good Sonic mainers give me some tips? Thanks!

 

[Tenki]

Hello. I main Sonic and my most challenging matchup thus far has been against my friends Wolf.
His projectile stuns Sonic hard and even when I shield several blasts, he can still get me with one. Then once I've outrun his projectiles, Wolf's close range combat is quick and often stuns Sonic. His one true weakness is his recovery, which Sonic can gimp easily with the Homing Attack or Dair. But other than this, I'm having a hard time approaching Wolf. Can any good Sonic mainers give me some tips? Thanks!

there's the problem.

try walking and shielding each bullet.

and then when you get better at it, try walking and p-shielding each bullet (use the shield when the laser is 'inside' the bubble's range).

jumping and airdodging works too.

next, you have to be prepared to shield and grab Wolf out of his F-smash and tilts.

Get those down and you should be able to handle your friend's Wolf.

 

[P a i n]

Try spinshot FAir approaches, it's how I usually hold up against projectile spammers. It's fast and'll catch em' off guard, and atm, it's not a very widely known sonic tech so abuse it while you can.

 

[Napilopez]

Wolf is annoying at first, but there are really much worse match-ups imo. You can use sideB invincibility frames to get get past laser spam. use it to eat the first shot, and if he shoots again, then jump out of the SDR(spin dash roll) into a homing attack or something to punish. Or just walk shield, srsly.

As for his smashes, you should be worried about dsmash moreso than fsmash, because it kills so well and is less punishable in my opinion. For fsmash, you can shield and grab, like tenki said. Or you can just use your tilts, which clang with fsmash.


Try ASC(Aerial Spin Charge) in this matchup. Wolf doesn't see to cover that diagonal angle very well, at least not from the ground. ASC cancel to shieldgrab is nice too XD.

 

[SonicX580]

You could also try to use grabs and put combo moves like Sonic's dair I tried that and it works for me.

 

[Umby]

You could also try to use grabs and put combo moves like Sonic's dair I tried that and it works for me.

Lurk more. Have a nice day.

 

[SonicX580]

Huh what do you mean by that Teh Umby?

 

[thecatinthehat]

lol wut? Dair.....a combo move? again.....lol wut?

 

[aeghrur]

Huh what do you mean by that Teh Umby?

He means you should read around the boards a little more to gain a more comprehensive knowledge of sonic's moves, ATs, techs, etc.

 

[SonicX580]

He means you should read around the boards a little more to gain a more comprehensive knowledge of sonic's moves, ATs, techs, etc.

Oh thanks for the clear up.

 

[Tenki]

I would like to add to it and say, he also wants you to play against competent human players before adding to matchup discussions, or discussions against characters.

 

[Khaoz]

I hate this match up SO much.

I normally find this to be a game of patience, staying back most of the time. Because I mean keep in mind, the downside (for Wolf) of the blaster is its short range. Then when the wolf player moves forward to adjust, that's the chance to rush in and try to deal some damage.

Of course this strategy isnt as useful on smaller stages =/

That's the most help I can give on that...=(

 

[Kinzer]

^^

Don't forget Wolf's gun isn't as rapid as the other projectiles.

For me instead of waiting, I just keep on the move, I don't want to get predictable for the Wolf.

 

[R4ZE]

most sonic's have a hard time with this matchup unless they have played it a lot. I think this very thread has been made atleast 5 times already lol.


bottom line.. learn the match, its really not that bad once you learn how to fight it. (its not half as bad as sonic vs G&w/snake )

 

[Ris747]

Also, if you want to beat a good Wolf, watch out for his Bair. It's long range and has almost no lag, and at the moment I can't think of any moves that Sonic has that can out-range his Bair. You might wanna try to keep this game on the ground because Sonic's air game isn't as good as Wolf's, of course only if the Wolf has good spacing. Remember, Wolf's Fsmash isn't really used for anything besides punishing and Dsmash isn't used for anything besides killing. Don't be too predictable, space well, and don't use punishable moves and you should hold well, although this match up isn't exactly in Sonic's favor.

 

[aeghrur]

Also, if you want to beat a good Wolf, watch out for his Bair. It's long range and has almost no lag, and at the moment I can't think of any moves that Sonic has that can out-range his Bair. You might wanna try to keep this game on the ground because Sonic's air game isn't as good as Wolf's, of course only if the Wolf has good spacing. Remember, Wolf's Fsmash isn't really used for anything besides punishing and Dsmash isn't used for anything besides killing. Don't be too predictable, space well, and don't use punishable moves and you should hold well, although this match up isn't exactly in Sonic's favor.

What match up is EVER in sonics favor? They're all 70-30, as KID says.

 

[Umby]

Link is in Sonic's favor. Probably Ganon as well.

 

[aeghrur]

Link is in Sonic's favor. Probably Ganon as well.

Um, verbal irony Umby. :O

 

[ROOOOY!]

You're forgetting Bowser, along with a few others.

Most boards seem to follow KID's ideology on match-ups ;_;

I swear the mods have abandoned us. I reported that Olimar thread like, three days ago, and none of them have been bothered to close it.

 

[Deathwish238]

yeah i HATE this match up but im going to stop complaining about it like i always do.

once u deal with the lasers and you walk up to the wolf while power shielding/spot dodging, space it so that he wants to use his f-smash. once he does you shield grab. easy.

well my friend uses wolf and he realized he was getting shield grabbed so much out of his f-smash he stopped doing it when i got to a certain distance and he's waiting for me to get closer. so now when i get to closer d-smash and when i get in between he uses the f-smash but i can't shield grab him cuz he goes slightly behind me i f***ing HATE playing against wolf its maad annoying -_-

 

[thecatinthehat]

Wolves like meat, let him get a whiff of some steak- oh wait...nevermind. You don;t have steak.

 

[memphischains]

oh hi guys

sonic sucks

thats why