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Sonic Simple Questions Thread

J18

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Oh oh I have a question.
Is there a reason that this thread exists?
...wait...I think my question answered my question...
*brain explodes*
 

Tenki

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jw, since you guys are all familiar with Sonic's moves/strategies, etc

when you play against Sonic, do his feints and cancels have any effect at all?

I noticed that I tend to not use cancels and fakeouts in Sonic dittos, and I'm wondering if there's any point to it.
 

TwinkleToes

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I think a lot of "fake outs" and "cancels" are absolutely idiotic and pointless. Although, since a lot of them do not directly result in getting punished plenty of people do them anyways just for the hell of it.

Like, it's hard to imagine a negative outcome from shield canceling your side-b, but I really don't see much of a point to it.

A fake out with down-b is also a popular thing amongst some Sonic mains and I've never seen it help anything.
 

Tenki

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lol
Well, careless cancelling doesn't do much for mindgames, like spamming SH ASC cancels as seen in Ophelia's 'return to Sonic' video vs the cpu Falco. At the most, all I can think of is "uhh.. when is he finally going to attack? OH here he comes now. lemme shield it"

I mean, for example, sometimes, I'll run full dash at a Pikachu then do a sudden momentum cancel with side-B. They tend to D-smash, shield, spotdodge, or roll- all timed assuming that I'll actually go through them.

Also, after doing some instant-cancelled side-B's, I noticed that I tend to do a charged down-B for an actual attack afterwards, so I'd mix it up sometimes with a 1-second-charged side-B cancel into a dash or something. I mean for SH-aerial fighters, it could get them to start their jump early and get them off-rhythm.

The predictable ASC cancel in and of itself usually baits a shieldgrab, does it not?

So... baiting reflexive or defensive moves: does it tend to work against Sonic mainers?
 
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