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The conversation made me realize that I didn’t receive feedback on this post I made a while back about the changes I wanted to make to my roster, I’d greatly appreciate feedback on this:
Wademan94 said:
Here’s my roster for it though I’d like to rebalance it so it’s even in all categories (like 14 or 16 each). Wanna help me?

Lightweight (16 Total)
Toad
Toadette
Koopa Troopa
Dry Bones
Shy Guy
Baby Mario
Baby Luigi
Lakitu
Larry
Lemmy
Wendy (Middleweight?)
Kamek
E. Gadd
Captain Toad (Costume or Middleweight?)
Nabbit
Cappy

Middleweight (15 total)
Mario
Luigi
Peach
Daisy
Yoshi
Birdo
Diddy Kong
Bowser Jr. (Lightweight?)
Iggy
Ludwig
Pauline
Hammer Bro
Dixie Kong
Cranky Kong
Captain Syrup

Heavyweight (17 total)
Donkey Kong
Wario
Waluigi
Bowser
Rosalina
King Boo (w/Luigi’s Mansion Costume)
Petey Piranha
Dry Bowser (Costume?)
Funky Kong
Wiggler
Roy
Morton
King Bob-omb
Boom Boom
Pom Pom
Chargin’ Chuck
King K. Rool
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So, I recently decided I needed to do some animation tests, so I came up with this. If you could take 4 seconds out of your day to watch this, that'd be amazing, and I'd really appreciate it if I could know your thoughts.

The base model is by Scott Cawthon, and edited by Steel Wool.

Huge thanks to Noipoi Noipoi and Hat N' Clogs Hat N' Clogs for checking this out and giving their thoughts! I really appreciate it!

So, without further ado, I present my cursed creation.

 
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Taylor F said:
So, I recently decided I needed to do some animation tests, so I came up with this. If you could take 4 seconds out of your day to watch this, that'd be amazing, and I'd really appreciate it if I could know your thoughts.

The base model is by Scott Cawthon, and edited by Steel Wool.

Huge thanks to Noipoi Noipoi and Hat N' Clogs Hat N' Clogs for checking this out and giving their thoughts! I really appreciate it!

So, without further ado, I present my cursed creation.

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Imagine putting efforts into your ****posts.

Jokes aside, great work! It all moves very smooth, and it works well.
 
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Wademan94 said:
The conversation made me realize that I didn’t receive feedback on this post I made a while back about the changes I wanted to make to my roster, I’d greatly appreciate feedback on this:
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Captain Toad could work as Middle or Heavyweight. Heavyweight makes for a fun in-joke.

If you're doing no 3rd parties, I can understand the lack of Geno and perhaps Mallow. Though I feel they're good options. It appears you're not going for characters completely unrelated to Mario as well. Metal Mario and Dr. Mario would be really neat additions, and they're actually different enough in their own ways to show up. Dr. Mario not yet showing up is becoming a bit silly when he fits perfectly into Mario Kart, where tons of clones are done. Maybe Gooigi as a Lightweight? Waluigi seems kind of odd for a Heavyweight unless you're doing a tag team thing like Double Dash. He's really more of a Middleweight on his own. Another good option is DK Jr., as he's actually one of the canon "Baby" forms to use. Besides that, how about regular Piranha Plant? I think the other ones are fine weight class-wise that you're questioning, and do you plan to do costumes in general? If so, a lot work as one. Captain Toad and Toad are fine separated, but you could have Dr. Mario works fine as a Middleweight costume for Mario. Metal Mario is clearly a Heavyweight(though he could have a Gold Mario costume too?).

That said, I just think Dr. Mario should've made an appearance in Mario Kart ages ago, even without the rest of the suggestions. The other big one was Kamek, but he's already there in your list.
 
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Wademan94 said:
The conversation made me realize that I didn’t receive feedback on this post I made a while back about the changes I wanted to make to my roster, I’d greatly appreciate feedback on this:
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This is actually pretty great. This is exactly what I’d want.
 
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Wademan94 said:
The conversation made me realize that I didn’t receive feedback on this post I made a while back about the changes I wanted to make to my roster, I’d greatly appreciate feedback on this:
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I'm imagining Cappy driving a car and it's weird. Random thoughts aside, this roster is very nice! I like it!
 
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Taylor F said:
Yo.

Uhhhhhh..... Your an animation guy, right?

Mind checking something out? I think you might be the best person to ask.
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Unfortunately my field is screenwriting and project development. I'm not the best person to ask for the technical aspects of animation itself. I could try but I probably wouldn't give the best advice. Sorry!
 
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Unfortunately my field is screenwriting and project development. I'm not the best person to ask for the technical aspects of animation itself. I could try but I probably wouldn't give the best advice. Sorry!
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Ravioli ravioli

Give me tips about screenwriting-ioli
 
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Ahm Skittish! said:
Captain Toad could work as Middle or Heavyweight. Heavyweight makes for a fun in-joke.

If you're doing no 3rd parties, I can understand the lack of Geno and perhaps Mallow. Though I feel they're good options. It appears you're not going for characters completely unrelated to Mario as well. Metal Mario and Dr. Mario would be really neat additions, and they're actually different enough in their own ways to show up. Dr. Mario not yet showing up is becoming a bit silly when he fits perfectly into Mario Kart, where tons of clones are done. Maybe Gooigi as a Lightweight? Waluigi seems kind of odd for a Heavyweight unless you're doing a tag team thing like Double Dash. He's really more of a Middleweight on his own. Another good option is DK Jr., as he's actually one of the canon "Baby" forms to use. Besides that, how about regular Piranha Plant? I think the other ones are fine weight class-wise that you're questioning, and do you plan to do costumes in general? If so, a lot work as one. Captain Toad and Toad are fine separated, but you could have Dr. Mario works fine as a Middleweight costume for Mario. Metal Mario is clearly a Heavyweight(though he could have a Gold Mario costume too?).

That said, I just think Dr. Mario should've made an appearance in Mario Kart ages ago, even without the rest of the suggestions. The other big one was Kamek, but he's already there in your list.
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I mean since Toads are lightweight, I figured if the extra weight was factored he’d be at least a middleweight.

I am considering adding Metal back and Dr. Mario in since he’s going to be relevant more, in the categories you mentioned though I’m torn on if I wanna make him a costume or give him his own spot. Waluigi is considered a heavyweight because of his height, same with Rosalina. This was present in the last couple of games. I wanted to cut down on baby forms since they just feel like roster padding. And I’m still unsure about Piranha Plant mainly cause of how he’d look on a bike. I’m having trouble picturing it. Maybe other non-Mario characters could be added in later but for now I just wanted to focus on Mario’s cast as well as any series related to it like DK.
 
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Noipoi said:
What do you think the next big Sonic game will be and why is it Sonic 06 2?
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Guys, he’s not insane. He’s just asking the question we were to scared to ask.
StormC said:
Unfortunately my field is screenwriting and project development. I'm not the best person to ask for the technical aspects of animation itself. I could try but I probably wouldn't give the best advice. Sorry!
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Ah, my bad! I must be mistaken. If you still wanna check it out it’s here.

https://youtu.be/rulN7qbhuhU
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Ravioli ravioli

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I second this.

I can not write scripts for the life of me.
 
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Wademan94 said:
I mean since Toads are lightweight, I figured if the extra weight was factored he’d be at least a middleweight.

I am considering adding Metal back and Dr. Mario in since he’s going to be relevant more, in the categories you mentioned though I’m torn on if I wanna make him a costume or give him his own spot. Waluigi is considered a heavyweight because of his height, same with Rosalina. This was present in the last couple of games. I wanted to cut down on baby forms since they just feel like roster padding. And I’m still unsure about Piranha Plant mainly cause of how he’d look on a bike. I’m having trouble picturing it. Maybe other non-Mario characters could be added in later but for now I just wanted to focus on Mario’s cast as well as any series related to it like DK.
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That's fair. I get ya on how you're doing the weight classes now. And fair point on PP. I am so used to just Karts that I forgot about Bikes. Though it does have legs in Smash, so that could work. Or just keep it in a pot for fun and not worry too much about realism.

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What do you think the next big Sonic game will be and why is it Sonic 06 2?
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I'm like the only Sonic 06 fan here(or one of very few). So... have any actual thoughts on who should be playable? :grin:

Joking aside, I'd love to see it remade with a lot of bug fixes. I don't care much if it has any glitches, but the bugs like Shadow suddenly missing his Homing Attack, and Rouge/Knuckles unable to jump off something they climbed is a big deal to me. A lot of it is just "the models won't go where you want them to go" in many cases. It's a vague description, but the movement bugs is what hurt the game a bit for me. Other than that, reduce the Loading times and outright remove the Mach Speed sections(along with the Sonic Snowboarding section) and just add some polish, and I'm golden. Mind you, the story is pretty trashy, but it's not very easy to fix while still keeping the time travel part.
 
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Tv is my main jam
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If I was teaching a TV class, I would write in big fat letters on the board: C H A R A C T E R S

Your show NEEDS good characters. Great characters. Characters the audience is going to want to follow for dozens of hours. Characters where, when the only people reading your script are an overworked intern in a management company, goes "wow, I wanna know what happens next to them!" Characters that surprise the reader, surprise yourself. Characters where you think you could write 6-7 seasons about them and not have it feel repetitive.

With your script all you have is your words. The script could be turned into the most amazing project ever with the right direction, set design, editing, etc. but unless the words are leaping off the page, it won't matter before it even gets greenlit.

A big issue a lot of beginning screenwriters run into is engaging the reader. The best way I can think of is, you're telling a campfire story. It's not a novel, but it's not a bullet point list of descriptions either. Make the scenes pop out in the reader's mind. Throw in humor (if tonally appropriate) to catch the reader's attention. There's a great example of this in the Lethal Weapon script (Shane Black was infamous for this):

"EXT. POSH BEVERLY HILLS HOME – TWILIGHT
The kind of house that I'll buy if this movie is a huge hit. Chrome. Glass. Carved wood. Plus an outdoor solarium: A glass structure, like a greenhouse only there's a big swimming pool inside. This is a really great place to have sex."

Also this from another film:

"Remember Jimmy's friend, Henry, who we met briefly near the opening of the film? Of course you do, you're a highly-paid reader or development person."

That's how I would do an intro to TV writing, anyway.
 
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This is a really great place to have sex.
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Smashboards is a fun place.

Jokes aside, thanks a lot for the advice!

Personally, the whole “Characters that can be interesting for a long amount of time” thing stops me. I can’t think of a single character who can be perfectly interesting for 7 seasons straight.

Unless, that is, it’s written well,
 
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Ahm Skittish! said:
That's fair. I get ya on how you're doing the weight classes now. And fair point on PP. I am so used to just Karts that I forgot about Bikes. Though it does have legs in Smash, so that could work. Or just keep it in a pot for fun and not worry too much about realism.
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Like I’m having trouble imagining how his proportions in the pot would look driving a bike like I think it’d look more awkward than it reasonably should, though if they can make it happen I’d be all for it.
 
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StormC said:
If I was teaching a TV class, I would write in big fat letters on the board: C H A R A C T E R S

Your show NEEDS good characters. Great characters. Characters the audience is going to want to follow for dozens of hours. Characters where, when the only people reading your script are an overworked intern in a management company, goes "wow, I wanna know what happens next to them!" Characters that surprise the reader, surprise yourself. Characters where you think you could write 6-7 seasons about them and not have it feel repetitive.

With your script all you have is your words. The script could be turned into the most amazing project ever with the right direction, set design, editing, etc. but unless the words are leaping off the page, it won't matter before it even gets greenlit.

A big issue a lot of beginning screenwriters run into is engaging the reader. The best way I can think of is, you're telling a campfire story. It's not a novel, but it's not a bullet point list of descriptions either. Make the scenes pop out in the reader's mind. Throw in humor (if tonally appropriate) to catch the reader's attention. There's a great example of this in the Lethal Weapon script (Shane Black was infamous for this):

"EXT. POSH BEVERLY HILLS HOME – TWILIGHT
The kind of house that I'll buy if this movie is a huge hit. Chrome. Glass. Carved wood. Plus an outdoor solarium: A glass structure, like a greenhouse only there's a big swimming pool inside. This is a really great place to have sex."

Also this from another film:

"Remember Jimmy's friend, Henry, who we met briefly near the opening of the film? Of course you do, you're a highly-paid reader or development person."

That's how I would do an intro to TV writing, anyway.
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That’s real interesting

If there’s anything I’m personally proud of when it comes to my scripts it’s the characters. Not gonna say they’re amazing, but I think they’re pretty great. And the few people I tell my ideas too seem to agree.

And about getting readers invested in the story, I gotta try and work on that sometime.

Thanks for the advice
 
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