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MooMew64

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You know what's worse than Nintendo doing really weird & poor reveal lately?

Some peoples acting like little BABIES due to said weird/poor reveal.

Like it make a meh announcement even worse.
There's a streamer I watch (Failboat), who's usually pretty chill and upbeat, but man, even he let the rumors get to him and build up his expectations, and now he's kind of being really salty about it.

I get people are bummed, but man, it's just video games.
 

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There's a streamer I watch (Failboat), who's usually pretty chill and upbeat, but man, even he let the rumors get to him and build up his expectations, and now he's kind of being really salty about it.

I get people are bummed, but man, it's just video games.
That's the problems with rumors, alot of them sound really good, even possible, but most of the time, they aren't real and thus make you much more saltythan you would if you just didn't put much thought about it & wait.

While I do fall here in there sometime, Smash 4 & Ultimate Speculation made me learn to keep my expectations low no matter how good a rumor is, or in other words:

"Hope for the best, expect the worst"

That, and rumors basically ruin speculations in general. Plus some peoples just spread rumors for attention and that's just ****ty.
 
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Honestly, I’m not expecting a direct long as COVID-19 is still around.
Like.. why not though? It's just trailers edited together. Trailers that they've been releasing anyway. Like, imagine the two partner showcases edited together and with the Paper Mario and Pikmin 3 announcement trailers. There you go! Pretty meaty direct.
 

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Like.. why not though? It's just trailers edited together. Trailers that they've been releasing anyway. Like, imagine the two partner showcases edited together and with the Paper Mario and Pikmin 3 announcement trailers. There you go! Pretty meaty direct.
To be fair, it’s impossible to know exactly how hard the virus has affected Nintendo. I’m not getting my hopes up.
 

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Like.. why not though? It's just trailers edited together. Trailers that they've been releasing anyway. Like, imagine the two partner showcases edited together and with the Paper Mario and Pikmin 3 announcement trailers. There you go! Pretty meaty direct.
There's a lot more logistics to it than that.

Scoliosis Jones Scoliosis Jones put it pretty well in the speculation thread:

So I think there's a bit to just point out here.

Partner Showcases are probably a thing because Nintendo isn't developing those games. They are made outside of Nintendo, which means that those devs are more easily able to identify release dates and everything else.

Nintendo first party titles have been announced by Twitter. This is probably because they don't want to commit to release dates in case they can't make good on them. This is clear through Paper Mario and Pikmin 3.

That said, Smash is developed externally which means that any upcoming presentation will probably be on schedule and simply not reveal the character beforehand. Think like the Byleth presentation. With Min Min having her presentation done in May, presented in June, chances are the presentation itself is done.

All this means is, first party titles will probably be announced separately, Partner Directs are easier to work on due to Nintendo itself not having commitment issues to release dates, and Smash is probably on track, but isn't revealed until just before release.

EDIT: Smash development usually works in groups of 3, meaning 3 are usually worked on at a time. Min Min and two others were worked on, meaning now picks 7-9 are in the works. 7 is, probably, close to being done. Doesn't mean a reveal is imminent, but I don't know that we'd be waiting until October.

That's my thought process anyway. What do you think?
It's not just editing trailers together. You need to be in contact with partners, have time tables, release schedules and pipelines you can count on, and coordination with everyone involved in marketing for regions across the world. Covid-19 has mucked around with all of that and makes the situation extremely fluid, and Nintendo is a careful company: They don't like showing things unless they feel 100% positive they can show it off and release it when they say they will. They're a prideful company that values their trade secrets, and whenever they delay a game or show something off ahead of time, it's only really ever for major projects that need it, of which we already know what their major game at the moment is: BotW 2. Who knows how far along that is as well. Could be early next year, could be early 2022: We don't know, and without fully knowing what's going on on their end, it's a little difficult for me to say "They should just do this" when honestly, none of us are experienced in running a company or are privy to the internal affairs of what's going on at the moment. Covid clearly hit them hard, and given it wasn't exactly something they could have known about or prepared for, I personally am not holding their release slate this year against them.

Things are hard right now for everyone.
 

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There's a lot more logistics to it than that.

Scoliosis Jones Scoliosis Jones put it pretty well in the speculation thread:



It's not just editing trailers together. You need to be in contact with partners, have time tables, release schedules and pipelines you can count on, and coordination with everyone involved in marketing for regions across the world. Covid-19 has mucked around with all of that and makes the situation extremely fluid, and Nintendo is a careful company: They don't like showing things unless they feel 100% positive they can show it off and release it when they say they will. They're a prideful company that values their trade secrets, and whenever they delay a game or show something off ahead of time, it's only really ever for major projects that need it, of which we already know what their major game at the moment is: BotW 2. Who knows how far along that is as well. Could be early next year, could be early 2022: We don't know, and without fully knowing what's going on on their end, it's a little difficult for me to say "They should just do this" when honestly, none of us are experienced in running a company or are privy to the internal affairs of what's going on at the moment. Covid clearly hit them hard, and given it wasn't exactly something they could have known about or prepared for, I personally am not holding their release slate this year against them.

Things are hard right now for everyone.
Yeah. But like.... every other game development studio has basically recovered. Not to where they were but to a good place where they can talk about stuff they're working on. So it's a little suspicious that the one that makes the most money and has the most resources is the one trying to play the "things are hard right now, please understand" card.
 
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You mean to tell me that your life doesn't revolve around video game advertisements? What a mad lad.
To be fair, I do pay attention alot to gamings news, mostly Nintendo, but still.

I also get the dissapointement to a extent, and I won't say Nintendo is doing a great or even good job at it lately. Even with Corona, they shouldn't just release a direct out of nowhere, even if it's a mini/partner showcases.

Thing is tho, I got other stuff to do, and me raging on social media ain't the best way to use the time we have left on this little rock named Earth.
 

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Yeah. But like.... every other game development studio has basically recovered. Not to where they were but to a good place where they can talk about stuff they're working on. So it's a little suspicious that the one that makes the most money and has the most resources is the one trying to play the "things are hard right now, please understand" card.
Tbh, Nintwndo more than likely has games to show.

They just don't want to show them off because they will inevitably be delayed. Especially in this era where they show off games that will be coming out in like two to five months.

It's a double edged sword they're playing with.
 

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Yeah. But like.... every other game development studio has basically recovered. So it's a little suspicious that the one that makes the most money and has the most resources is the one trying to play the "things are hard right now, please understand" card.
Nintendo is not at all the one with the most resources. For the amount of money they make, Nintendo doesn't at all have the same size studios or partners Sony or especially Microsoft has, and their company culture is extremely rooted in tradition from what I've personal seen and read about it. They do things with an old-school mindeset, love it or hate it.

Also, they're different companies. IMO, it's not a one shoe size fits all scenario: Different companies got hit in different ways, and Nintendo has always been different from your average studio and even prides themselves on it by making it known "We do things our way, regardless if you think it's weird or not".
 

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Tbh, Nintwndo more than likely has games to show.

They just don't want to show them off because they will inevitably be delayed. Especially in this era where they show off games that will be coming out in like two to five months.

It's a double edged sword they're playing with.
Just don't put a release date at the end of the trailer. They've done it before.
 

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Just don't put a release date at the end of the trailer. They've done it before.
That's not how they operate, though.

As I've said above, they pride themselves on getting a game out when they say they're going to. Nintendo doesn't like publicly delaying things, and they only do it if they absolutely have to.

They're a careful company, and with a worldwide situation that's extremely fluid right now, they're being as careful as they could possibly be.
 

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I agree, but I'm assuming they don't want another Prime 4 situation.
Well, I think it's a very selfish mindset. They need to know that with how much people love them and their games that a few trailers and announcements would help a lot of people get through this. Not me. Not mad. Not angry. Not trying to start a fight. Not trying to rant. I'm just mildly frustrated.
 
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Ok, things seemed to cool down a bit so It is time for my thoughts about the presentation:

Really Excited about the new KH Game. I will likely wait for a discount doh as I will wait for another Game shown.
That drum game by Namco looks really fun and I'm looking forward to trying It out. Heard It also had Undertale and Kirby collaborations which is really awesome.

Collection Of SaGa was my second favourite reveal of the whole thing. Those games never released physically where I live iirc and this will be a good chance to play them. May pick It alongside the port of the original FFVII.
Finally, the best reveal: Puyo Puyo Tetris 2. Really wanted to play PPT1 after trying out the demo back when I bought a Switch. Sadly the Game already sold out by then.
The fact It may cost 30€ and that It releases during Winter will do me a lot of good as by then I will likely have saved enough money for It.
Also really hyped to play It online with my Discord Crush, who is also a big SEGA and Puyo Puyo fan. He was really hyped about the news too.

Overall, I would give this presentation the JD Score of a 6/10.
It didn't have any big hitter but It did have stuff I quite liked and actually feel excited for. Better than the Bakugan thing.

Also want to tag osby osby and Speed Weed Speed Weed , as they are SEGA fans too and I wonder how they felt about Puyo Puyo Tetris 2.
 
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Justed watched the new Partners Showcase! It left me satisfied well enough, though a few highlights of it would have to be KH:MoM, Puyo Puyo Tetris 2, the new Final Fantasy Legend collection, the new Taiko no Tatsujin RPGs, and also suprisingly FUSER.
 

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You know what's worse than Nintendo doing really weird & poor reveal lately?

Some peoples acting like little BABIES due to said weird/poor reveal.

Like it make a meh announcement even worse.
You know, I read that Miyamoto was an active smoker prior to the turn of the century, which potentially makes him high risk. That knowledge makes their silence somewhat justifiable in my eyes, and just worsens the reputation of a bunch of these zealots. It truly is cursed to consider oneself a Nintendo fan with these blokes, ain’t it?
 
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Well that makes it very unlikely for a mini direct now. It really feels like Nintendo actually doesn’t have anything outside of those trailer drops on YouTube for this year. Which is a bit disappointing.
 

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Wouldn’t certain characters be repetitive like Gabby Jay?
I didn't mean every character that has ever been in the franchise has to be in. Just every character they choose to include in that game. Though of course, Glass Joe and King Hippo are musts at the very least. Also, they could change up the character enough.

Man, I usually don't like how Minecraft looks, but Minecraft Dungeons is actually kinda pretty
 

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We have a "Sonic has amnesia" story incoming

He's lost in Blaze's dimension

WE GETTING MORE BLAZE CONTENT LET'S GO
I listen to Ian Flynn's podcast and I know SEGA can be very strict with what he can and can't do. Meaning if Blaze's dimension exists here, it's main series cannon now. Which is strange because Eggman Nega was still Eggman's descendant in Olympics 2020
 

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Nintendo sure likes to shadowdrop stuff as of now, eh?

Anywho, it's a step up from the last Partner Showcase Direct with Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 being my highlight (now I'm pressured to finish the story mode of the prequel).

Makes me hungrier for a new Dr. Mario game for the Switch now. :glare:
 

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[As someone whose childhood Sonic Game is Sonic Rush these news please me a lot./SPOILER]
What I like most about this issue is how level-headed Tails acts.

Despite being obviously worried about Sonic's health, he's still very aware of all the junk they have to fix in their own world at this time. He feels a lot more independent here than in Forces, and this is the kind of personality I love to see out of Tails. Still a softie, but doesn't need Sonic to always be there 24/7 to function.

He's also a cutie <3
 

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Lost Tapes. Do you believe?

Lost Tapes. Shadow Stalker.



Lost Tapes: "Shadow Stalker"
Subject matter: Shadow people
Summary: A family moves into their newly renovated home despite having an ominous feeling. They soon learn about the deaths of the previous owners that their retailer didn't tell them about once they discover a sealed room with old newspapers containing the articles revolving around it. Things take a turn for the worst when they begin hearing loud noises coming from another sealed room with dried blood and bones.
 
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