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SnakeFighter64 said:
I like this roster. But I still miss Black Widow and Hawkeye. It also wouldn’t hurt to have slightly more obscure characters like Namor (my most wanted). I also think that Bison should be there. As well as Poison and a Monster Hunter character (bring back MH, maybe the Huntsmam from World, or Lute and Rathalos from the rider game that got an Amiibo.

If your roster was base game, and the characters I listed were DLC, I’d be aces.

Also, keep the free form tagging from Infinite, but with three partners. I hate the old tagging system (which is also why I don’t play FighterZ much anymore).
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I did consider Bison and either Hawkeye or Black Widow, but I wanted to stick to my limitations, and I didn't want to risk going overboard on Street Fighter and Avengers characters.

I don't know enough about Monster Hunter or Namor to comment; I played Monster Hunter Tri on the Wii, but that's about it (and I wasn't a fan of the gameplay), and my only exposure to Namor has been through the 60's Avengers and Fantastic Four comics, his short appearance in Marvel Ultimate Alliance 1, and also this:



Michael the Spikester said:
>No Rocket.

3/10 only because its got Phoenix Wright and Amaterasu.
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If I gave myself more space, I'd include a Guardians of the Galaxy character, but between the Avengers, the X-Men, Spider-Man, Doctor Strange, some villains, and a decent amount of newcomers, there wasn't a ton of room. That's part of the problem with rosters like this - given how many different series are being covered, it's really tough to cover everything.
 
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Megadoomer said:
I did consider Bison and either Hawkeye or Black Widow, but I wanted to stick to my limitations, and I didn't want to risk going overboard on Street Fighter and Avengers characters.

I don't know enough about Monster Hunter or Namor to comment; I played Monster Hunter Tri on the Wii, but that's about it (and I wasn't a fan of the gameplay), and my only exposure to Namor has been through the 60's Avengers and Fantastic Four comics, his short appearance in Marvel Ultimate Alliance 1, and also this:





If I gave myself more space, I'd include a Guardians of the Galaxy character, but between the Avengers, the X-Men, Spider-Man, Doctor Strange, a few Fantastic Four characters, and some villains, there wasn't a ton of room. That's part of the problem with rosters like this - given how many different series are being covered, it's really tough to cover everything.
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I think you could ditch Cable for Rocket. That wouldn't hurt too many people. Honestly, a Marvel vs. Capcom would thrive with a lot of DLC content anyway.
 
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Hadokeyblade said:
Even when Gamefreak is giving their A game we end up with mediocre switch title, I can only imagine how it would end up if they had less staff on hand for work.
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I just knew someone was going to use this opportunity to make a jab at Gamefreak. It's sad, but I knew it'd happen.

Maybe it's just because I'm a fanboy, but it comes across as a tad bit insensitive.
 
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Zachmac said:
I just knew someone was going to use this opportunity to make a jab at Gamefreak. It's sad, but I knew it'd happen.

Maybe it's just because I'm a fanboy, but it comes across as a tad bit insensitive.
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You can be a fanboy of something and still mock the people behind it.
 
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Here's another Sakurai column that I want to highlight. It's really nice that he addressed all the various assumed claims of him being "bias" towards different series, and it also shows how people are prone to jump straight into conclusions when it comes to Smash. Always mindful to remember:
some things aren't as simple & clear-cut as they seem.​
 
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Rangez said:

Here's another Sakurai column that I want to highlight. It's really nice that he addressed all the various assumed claims of him being "bias" towards different series, and it also shows how people are prone to jump straight into conclusions when it comes to Smash. Always mindful to remember:
some things aren't as simple & clear-cut as they seem.​
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Honestly, when people are claiming he has a bias it's more an indicator of the accusers biases then anything else. We may disagree with what ends up happening, but assigning sole blame to him is not productive to anything. No matter how many Fire Emblem characters get in.
 
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Rangez said:

Here's another Sakurai column that I want to highlight. It's really nice that he addressed all the various assumed claims of him being "bias" towards different series, and it also shows how people are prone to jump straight into conclusions when it comes to Smash. Always mindful to remember:
some things aren't as simple & clear-cut as they seem.​
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You can't tell me with a straight face that Kirby living the start of world of light was because he was the best option.
 
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Guynamednelson said:
You can be a fanboy of something and still mock the people behind it.
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I'm more upset about the context in which it's being mocked.

"Oh Gamefreak is taking appropriate measures to reduce the spread of a deadly pandemic? Let's make fun of them for it!"

It really rubs me the wrong way.
 
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Zachmac said:
I'm more upset about the context in which it's being mocked.

"Oh Gamefreak is taking appropriate measures to reduce the spread of a deadly pandemic? Let's make fun of them for it!"

It really rubs me the wrong way.
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Ah, that's understandable.
 
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I wanna design a fighting game around the Larry-Boy/League of Incredible Vegetables proporty. Just for the challenge of making a fighting game where the characters have no arms or legs. Mostly.
 
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Hadokeyblade said:
Even when Gamefreak is giving their A game we end up with mediocre switch title, I can only imagine how it would end up if they had less staff on hand for work.


Me if Persona 5 arena happens.
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Makoto already top tier
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I'm not sure what's going on with EVO this year, given everything that's happened with the coronavirus, but inspired by this video, if we got Marvel vs. Capcom 4 (which seems like a real possibility, given the out-of-the-blue inclusion of Marvel vs. Capcom 2 as a main stage EVO game - I get that it's the 20th anniversary, but it still seems random), who would you want to see?

You can either go with individual characters or a full roster - I'll go with both, though I'll put the roster in spoiler tags for the sake of page size.

I'd really like to see Kamala Khan, or Ms. Marvel, in the game. Her powers seem perfectly suited for a fighting game, and the character interactions would be great. While I'm not a fan of the character like other people are, I find it weird that Loki hasn't made it into one of these games given how long he's been around, his popularity, and the fact that both versions of MvC3 came out around the time where he was having his biggest role in the MCU.

On the Capcom side of things, Mega Man's technically not a new character, but given how much reinventing would be needed, he might as well be. As we've seen in Smash Bros., despite how awkward his initial MvC moveset was, we see that he can work in a 2D fighter.

As for the full roster,

I'm limiting myself to 48 characters - it can be divided by 2 (to have an even split between Marvel and Capcom) and 3 (since the game's based around teams of three), and while 54 works for that as well, I feel like that's a bit too much. Sure, Marvel vs. Capcom 2 had slightly more, but that was an asset flip - an overwhelming majority of the characters used sprites from previous games.

Let's start with the obvious ones - Ryu, Morrigan, Chun-Li, Akuma, Spider-Man, Wolverine, Iron Man, and Captain America. These characters are in most of the Versus games, and without the petty legal squabbles of MvC Infinite keeping the X-Men out, there's no reason why they shouldn't be included.

Thor and Hulk seem like obvious choices, as do Black Panther and Captain Marvel. For a new character from the Avengers, I'd like to see the Wasp included. While it feels weird to leave only one of the founding Avengers (Ant-Man) out, the Wasp can do anything that he can do plus flying and shooting lasers (though growing giant seems to only be temporary in most continuities).

Like I said, I'd like to see Ms. Marvel and Loki in these games, so let's throw them in there. While we're on an Avengers kick, I feel like Kang the Conqueror doesn't get much respect for being one of the characters with a good claim to being the Avengers' arch enemy. (either him or Ultron) Plus, they could do interesting things with time travel, Kangs from multiple timelines, or future tech, so I'm throwing him in there.

You've got to have X-Men - the problem is that I'm not overly familiar with the X-Men, so I'm not sure who the must-have characters are. Storm and Magneto have been consistently included, Deadpool seems like a must-have (even if he's not an X-Man), and given his history with the series, why not include Cable as well?

Then there's the Fantastic Four - Doctor Doom definitely needs to be in there (not biased at all), and it's a little weird that the Fantastic Four have never been playable in these games. I'm not sure if there's enough room to include the entire team, but at the very least, I'd include the ever-lovin' blue-eyed Thing. I'll come back to the FF later, depending on how much space I have.

I feel like we're short on villains so far, so let's throw in Ultron, Thanos, and Venom. My original plan was to have sixteen veterans and eight newcomers on each side, but I've already reached sixteen vets, so that's going to have to change. At the very least, I haven't included Doctor Strange yet, and he seems like a must-have. Also, why not? Let's throw Shuma-Gorath in there as well, since Capcom loves including him for some reason, and it's gotten to the point where it's pretty much a running gag.

For the last Marvel character, I'm torn between a few options - Star-Lord, Blade, and Squirrel Girl. Of the three, my gut tells me to go with Squirrel Girl, since it seems like she'd allow for a lot more creativity for the hypothetical developers.

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Now for the Capcom side. Like I said, Mega Man should be in there. His moveset would have to pretty much be completely revamped from how it was in MvC2. Going through the list of veterans, Dante, Wesker, Strider Hiryu, and Mike Haggar seem like must-haves. So does Jill Valentine, though her moveset would likely need to be revamped to be based on Revelations and the RE3 remake.

I feel like a new Street Fighter character pretty much HAS to be in there - of the characters introduced in Street Fighter V, Rashid stands out the most to me. On a related note, let's throw Asura from Asura's Wrath in there, since his game's DLC showed him working in a 2D fighter.

Other MvC vets that would make a lot of sense would be Zero, Vergil, Nemesis (with Jill in there), and Felicia. Also, I'd include Phoenix Wright, Amaterasu, and Viewtiful Joe, because there's no reason that I can think of why they should be excluded.

There's only one veteran spot left, unless I change the numbers up like what I did with Marvel, but there's one choice that stands out to me as being really obvious: Amingo Servbot Hayato Kanzaki Arthur from Ghosts 'n Goblins.

For newcomers, Jon Talbain from Darkstalkers comes to mind - he's a kung-fu werewolf that keeps narrowly missing out on these things. Gene from God Hand is a popular choice who hasn't made it in yet, so I'll include him as well.

I feel like I'm running out of ideas for new Capcom characters, so I'll make the last two characters veterans. I'm not sure if Dead Rising is as popular as it once was (by my understanding, Dead Rising 4 pretty much killed the franchise), but Frank West has an entertaining and creative moveset, so I'd include him. Adding Sigma to MvC Infinite made a ton of sense, though it was baffling that one of the main villains of the story was locked behind DLC, so I'll include him as the last character in this roster.

1. Spider-Man
2. Wolverine
3. Iron Man
4. Captain America
5. Thor
6. Hulk
7. Black Panther
8. Captain Marvel
9. Storm
10. Magneto
11. Cable
12. Deadpool
13. Doctor Doom
14. Ultron
15. Thanos
16. Venom
17. Dr. Strange
18. Shuma-Gorath
19. The Wasp (NEW)
20. Ms. Marvel (NEW)
21. Loki (NEW)
22. Kang the Conqueror (NEW)
23. The Thing (NEW)
24. Squirrel Girl (NEW)
25. Ryu
26. Morrigan
27. Chun-Li
28. Akuma
29. Dante
30. Wesker
31. Strider Hiryu
32. Mike Haggar
33. Zero
34. Vergil
35. Nemesis
36. Felicia
37. Phoenix Wright
38. Viewtiful Joe
39. Amaterasu
40. Arthur
41. Frank West
42. Sigma
43. Mega Man (NEW-ish)
44. Jill Valentine (NEW-ish)
45. Rashid (NEW)
46. Asura (NEW)
47. Jon Talbain (NEW)
48. Gene (NEW)

This was the end result of my attempt at making a roster, with my explanations in the spoiler tag. I only tried grouping the characters by franchise, so some funny coincidences popped up, like Shuma-Gorath and Amaterasu being opposite from each other when they're both gods, or Deadpool and Nemesis being opposite each other given that Deadpool (to quote himself from long before the movie was happening) looks like a cross between Ryan Reynolds and a shar-pei, and Nemesis is a superpowered rotting corpse.



Mind you, EVO might not even happen this year, or the inclusion of Marvel vs. Capcom 2 could be building up to the announcement of a MvC collection on modern consoles. I just wanted to do this for fun.
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they would definitely find a way to make Miles and Gwen have their own character slot just because of their continued popularity
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Spider-Man, Spider-Man,
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...Amazing...Spectacular...Sensational...
Michael the Spikester said:
No Kombat Pack 2 today...:(

It would had been a good time.
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not surprising tbh...you’ll get your MK11 news eventually
SnakeFighter64 said:
I wanna design a fighting game around the Larry-Boy/League of Incredible Vegetables proporty. Just for the challenge of making a fighting game where the characters have no arms or legs. Mostly.
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God would not allow that
 
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TMNTSSB4 said:
they would definitely find a way to make Miles and Gwen have their own character slot just because of their continued popularity
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I wouldn't be a fan of that.
TMNTSSB4 said:
not surprising tbh...you’ll get your MK11 news eventually
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hopefully. They were already on a dreadfully paced release schedule, and who knows how much worse it got after the world turned into bricks that block our doors.
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God would not allow that
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Eh. What can he do? Glow on me?
 
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So uh...

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Wouldn't say awesome.... Just cursed.​
 
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