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[CannonStreak]

Now that I think about it, Terry may be next week. I don't think they'd reveal him around Luigi's Mansion 3's release.

That said, how long after the prepearing (private video, maintenance, etc.) do the DLC characters come out?

 

[Rangez]

I'm betting next week.

Yeah, me too. November 1st would be a little too early for me.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Well there's the obvious choice: DQ. Journey also did that pretty well IIRC (I need to replay that soon). I admittedly don't have a very wide set of experiences with games but that's generally supposed to be a big draw for JRPGs.

Wait. I’m confused? Don’t RPGs have a **** tone of customization and player choice?

Journey is a good example though. Forgot about that one.

Yeah, me too. November 1st would be a little too early for me.

Yeesh. Everyone was really on it a few hours ago. And now the general attitude is this. Just... why?

 

[Deleted member]

Wait. I’m confused? Don’t RPGs have a **** tone of customization and player choice?

Journey is a good example though. Forgot about that one.

Player choice is very linear in RPGs. You typically always shoot for one ending that's obtained by one set of conditions. For example, despite Persona having a ton of customization and player choice, only like one or two choices directly affect the ending.

 

[Wademan94]

Zinith so the concept I had for this potential bard character is that he would use some jingles/songs from the Mario series (and potentially other Nintendo series) for different abilities.

• SMB3 Warp Whistle: fast travel system in field, summons a tornado to attack enemies in battle
• Piranha Plant’s Lullaby: puts enemies and NPCs to sleep in and out of battle

Would you be willing to help me come up with some others?

 

[Zinith]

A little early, but I don't want to forget to post

Trick or Treat！！ pic.twitter.com/DkparYNGKt

— もちもの (@super_mochimono) October 30, 2019

 

[Shadowwolflink]

Question: is it possible to make a linear game with very few player choices that effect the narrative and the world around you, and still engross the player with an amazing story that makes you feel the same emotions as the character you control?

Ever played Limbo?

 

[Zinith]

Zinith so the concept I had for this potential bard character is that he would use some jingles/songs from the Mario series (and potentially other Nintendo series) for different abilities.

• SMB3 Warp Whistle: fast travel system in field, summons a tornado to attack enemies in battle
• Piranha Plant’s Lullaby: puts enemies and NPCs to sleep in and out of battle

Would you be willing to help me come up with some others?

This'll probably be a very support-heavy character. I'd say only like one attack would actually deal damage, while the others have status effects. I should also note that one variant of Crazee Dayzees blows bubbles and it kinda messes up Yoshi's platforming. Maybe that'll be the attack

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Player choice is very linear in RPGs. You typically always shoot for one ending that's obtained by one set of conditions. For example, despite Persona having a ton of customization and player choice, only like one or two choices directly affect the ending.

I see.

Maybe I’m just a freak. But when I played Bayonetta, especially 2, I really connected with her character and I felt what she was feeling. Having to kill your own father for the fate of the world, and then meeting him before he was evil and witnessing his downfall... I don’t know why but I really felt how she felt.

And then I played the entire god of war saga and I felt all that times 10. A desperate man who made bad descisions, blinded by rage doing everything he can to fix it, stone for it, and make sure it never happened again.... I relate so god damn much to that and with each game, with each desperate struggle, i felt every emotion Kratos must have been feeling. And it didn’t feel like I was controlling a character on the screen. It felt like I was doing it. I want to do that for other people. I want them to be able to get out of these games what I get out of them. But I don’t know how to do that for others without sacrificing what I like best in them. Which is why I asked if people even thought it was possible.

 

[Zinith]

Mario and friends staying in a hotel. C/- Club Nintendo DE (September 1993) pic.twitter.com/mdl0iHdQtD

— Your Daily Mario (@yourdailymario) October 30, 2019

What absolute nonsense!!!

Spoiler

Luigi's hogging all of the blanket

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Ever played Limbo?

I have not. But I’ve heard it was good.

 

[Raxxel]

Bummed about no Terry. He'll be soon enough though.

 

[MainJPW]

What absolute nonsense!!!

Spoiler

Luigi's hogging all of the blanket

Why do you assume he needs a blanket? Blankets are for the weak.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Why do you assume he needs a blanket? Blankets are for the weak.

Yeah. Mario really needs some more blanket.

Sorry. I had to. It was wide open.

 

[Wademan94]

Why do you assume he needs a blanket? Blankets are for the weak.

How dare you!

 

[MainJPW]

Yeah. Mario really needs some more blanket.

Sorry. I had to. It was wide open.

>Mario
>weak

 

[Shroob]

>Mario
>weak

All I hear from this image is


"Uhh, I can explain."

 

[Slime Master]

Wait. I’m confused? Don’t RPGs have a **** tone of customization and player choice?

Journey is a good example though. Forgot about that one.

Maybe that's different with modern RPGs but my experience has always been that customization is mostly for combat stuff, the main story isn't really effected.

 

[Zinith]

>Mario
>weak

Well then what would that make Yoshi considering he was fine without a blanket?

 

[Wademan94]

>Mario
>weak

Not to mention he regularly takes on enemies that are like 10-20 times his size and strength and usually comes out on top.

 

[Shadowwolflink]

I have not. But I’ve heard it was good.

It's really good and gets you to care for the character even though it's a linear sidescroller with no dialogue.

 

[TheCJBrine]

Who would win:

A big, monstrous turtle with his own castle and army, whom can beat up nearly everyone in his way and grow gargantuan when his life is threatened,

OR,

One smol plumber boy.

 

[MainJPW]

Well then what would that make Yoshi considering he was fine without a blanket?

I mean, as I implied with the blanket comment Yoshi's a beast.

He even survives this:

But this also doubles as Mario being even more of a ********** than usual so there we have it.

 

[Deleted member]

I see.

Maybe I’m just a freak. But when I played Bayonetta, especially 2, I really connected with her character and I felt what she was feeling. Having to kill your own father for the fate of the world, and then meeting him before he was evil and witnessing his downfall... I don’t know why but I really felt how she felt.

And then I played the entire god of war saga and I felt all that times 10. A desperate man who made bad descisions, blinded by rage doing everything he can to fix it, stone for it, and make sure it never happened again.... I relate so god damn much to that and with each game, with each desperate struggle, i felt every emotion Kratos must have been feeling. And it didn’t feel like I was controlling a character on the screen. It felt like I was doing it. I want to do that for other people. I want them to be able to get out of these games what I get out of them. But I don’t know how to do that for others without sacrificing what I like best in them. Which is why I asked if people even thought it was possible.

Different folks different strokes. I typically play games nowadays to unwind after college work. As a result, I tend to miss story beats and empathetic moments for some games.

Like for God of War (the not 2018 game), I didn't play it to think about the deep meanings of Kratos revenge and guilt; I played it to punch Zeus in the ****ing face.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

It's really good and gets you to care for the character even though it's a linear sidescroller with no dialogue.

Should probably look into it then. Even if it’s not quite what I want to do.

 

[TheMightyP]

Shield is a little dumb, yeah, but at least you're slow as **** while it's active and the meter goes down quickly while you're being attacked.

I can't say that I've seen much salt from Rex and Elma fans over the OG Xenoblade protag being the one in Smash. Hell, I'm a Rex supporter myself but I wouldn't want him to represent the series over Shulk.

Emphasis on the REALLY salty.

But again, they're so small that they don't count.

 

[Zinith]

I mean, as I implied with the blanket comment Yoshi's a beast.

He even survives this:

But this also doubles as Mario being even more of a ********** than usual so there we have it.

Oh, one spike? A slow day for my boi

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Different folks different strokes. I typically play games nowadays to unwind after college work. As a result, I tend to miss story beats and empathetic moments for some games.

Like for God of War (the not 2018 game), I didn't play it to think about the deep meanings of Kratos revenge and guilt; I played it to punch Zeus in the ****ing face.

I played it for that reason too. But I still found myself engrossed in the story as I explained. It just.... happened, especially in 3. And I go online and see nothing but people saying how bad Kratos is as a character and how bad the story is, not just in god of war but in hack n slash in general and.... I just don’t understand. That’s not the experience I had with them at all (well, it is my experience with DMC. Except for DmC). I want to at least try to show people how these games affected me and give them a similar experience where you get so engrossed with the narrative that you end up marathoning the whole game in one night, just like I did. But I don’t know how to do it for people who aren’t me without RPG-ifying it.

 

[Deleted member]

Different folks different strokes. I typically play games nowadays to unwind after college work. As a result, I tend to miss story beats and empathetic moments for some games.

Like for God of War (the not 2018 game), I didn't play it to think about the deep meanings of Kratos revenge and guilt; I played it to punch Zeus in the ****ing face.

I think there's space for both games as narrative experiences as games as just "games".
I'm not really playing Last of Us for the gameplay, I'm playing it for the story and for the interactions between Ellie, Joel and the other characters. On the other hand I'm not really playing DMC for it's story or the inter-familial conflict between Dante, Vergil and Nero, I'm playing it to kill demons in the most stylish way I possibly can.

 

[Zinith]

Also my boi doesn't need magic mushrooms to get big. He does it the old fashioned way

Spoiler

 

[SnakeFighter64]

I think there's space for both games as narrative experiences as games as just "games".
I'm not really playing Last of Us for the gameplay, I'm playing it for the story and for the interactions between Ellie, Joel and the other characters. On the other hand I'm not really playing DMC for it's story or the inter-familial conflict between Dante, Vergil and Nero, I'm playing it to kill demons in the most stylish way I possibly can.

Why can’t a game do both though. Because for me at least, classic god of war and bayonetta do that.

 

[Deleted member]

3 hours in and no Terry reveal or anything so, yeah.

 

[Deleted member]

Why can’t a game do both though. Because for me at least, classic god of war and bayonetta do that.

Some of them do. Uncharted 2 is an amazing story experience but it's also got a rock-solid gameplay foundation and the gunplay and moment to moment firefights are very fun. It's just that a lot of games tend to focus on one or the other, or one outshines the other to the point where it gets overtaken.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Some of them do. Uncharted 2 is an amazing story experience but it's also got a rock-solid gameplay foundation and the gunplay and moment to moment firefights are very fun. It's just that a lot of games tend to focus on one or the other, or one outshines the other to the point where it gets overtaken.

I see. I see.

I still want to know why I’m the only one who thinks hack n slashed like Bayonetta and God of War have good engrossing and engaging stories.

 

[Wademan94]

How dare you!
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Hey, do you guys think this design looks complete or could I potentially try to do a bit more with her?

 

[Deleted member]

I played it for that reason too. But I still found myself engrossed in the story as I explained. It just.... happened, especially in 3. And I go online and see nothing but people saying how bad Kratos is as a character and how bad the story is, not just in god of war but in hack n slash in general and.... I just don’t understand. That’s not the experience I had with them at all (well, it is my experience with DMC. Except for DmC). I want to at least try to show people how these games affected me and give them a similar experience where you get so engrossed with the narrative that you end up marathoning the whole game in one night, just like I did. But I don’t know how to do it for people who aren’t me without RPG-ifying it.

I found Kratos to be a good classic Greek myth character. As in, he's not a good person by any means but he's entertaining to watch. Otherwise, eh. I don't know what else to see in him in the original trilogy.

 

[Knight Dude]

Found a cool mash-up between Heavy Lobster and Crush Crawfish.

Damnit, I don’t have an excuse to be needlessly cynical anymore.

But seriously, that’s cool. Hope Rugal gets a spirit so Smash fans can experience true pain too.

These children aren't ready for GENOCIDO CUTTAH! Hell, I can barely beat normal Rugal in CVS2. I beat Shin Akuma, but I haven't taken on O. Rugal yet.

 

[Deleted member]

I see. I see.

I still want to know why I’m the only one who thinks hack n slashed like Bayonetta and God of War have good engrossing and engaging stories.

That's something for you to figure out. Could be music, voice acting, gameplay, etc.

 

[Deleted member]

Looks like sakurai got mail

海外の方から、スマブラ集合ファンアートのポスターを送っていただきました。テーブルからはみ出すぐらい大きいです。こりゃスゴい！ pic.twitter.com/8WTuUJkEl5

— 桜井 政博 / Masahiro Sakurai (@Sora_Sakurai) October 31, 2019

 

[Zinith]

Sakurai just tweeted this:

海外の方から、スマブラ集合ファンアートのポスターを送っていただきました。テーブルからはみ出すぐらい大きいです。こりゃスゴい！ pic.twitter.com/8WTuUJkEl5

— 桜井 政博 / Masahiro Sakurai (@Sora_Sakurai) October 31, 2019

See, he likes things way off-model too

Edit: 'd