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That's not Nightmare, that's his counterpart from another world.
Oh, my bad then.
Still a dope design

Star Allies had a remix of his theme in the final update for when fighting Morpho as the launch Dream Friends iirc
True.
That could be good news for the future of the character, more so with the stuff from Super Kirby Clash

who is hating on Terry and what reason?
People who haven’t touched KoF and think he’s just Hat Ken or basically didn’t want him.

Usual stuff inside the Smash community.
 

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So consider the following:

-Toby Fox was a competitive Smash player.
-Toby Fox has made a mod of a game done by Nintendo, being the Earthbound Halloween hack.
-Toby Fox would later make Undertale, a popular game, and he also composed it's music.

Thus, I have determined who the 5th DLC character is.
 
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I hate that Terry is getting hated for no real reason.
People that paid for the Fighter pack are disappointed that instead of universally popular fighters getting in they keep revealing fighters that the typical gamer doesn't know about I am on fence because all the dlc are boring but that's just me.
 

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People who haven’t touched KoF and think he’s just Hat Ken or basically didn’t want him.

Usual stuff inside the Smash community.
You could say their reactions was PREDICTABO!!
People that paid for the Fighter pack are disappointed that instead of universally popular fighters getting in they keep revealing fighters that the typical gamer doesn't know about I am on fence because all the dlc are boring but that's just me.
I gotta ask what a "typical" gamer is by your standard.
 
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People that paid for the Fighter pack are disappointed that instead of universally popular fighters getting in they keep revealing fighters that the typical gamer doesn't know about I am on fence because all the dlc are boring but that's just me.
DQ should be inn Smash and you know it.
 
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I love Nightmare’s redesign in Super Kirby Clash a lot.

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Hopefully he returns in a future main title Kirby game.
He got in Smash. He pretty much won the villain race against Kirby villains.

People that paid for the Fighter pack are disappointed that instead of universally popular fighters getting in they keep revealing fighters that the typical gamer doesn't know about I am on fence because all the dlc are boring but that's just me.
Hard to pity people who bought the pass and are disappointed when Sakurai literally said to buy it at our risk.
 

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People that paid for the Fighter pack are disappointed that instead of universally popular fighters getting in they keep revealing fighters that the typical gamer doesn't know about I am on fence because all the dlc are boring but that's just me.
There aren't really any "universally popular" fighters that could be added as newcomers at this point. Every character is going to have their detractors, and regardless of who gets in, there's going to be a decent number of people whining about it because it wasn't the incredibly specific character that they wanted.
 

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People that paid for the Fighter pack are disappointed that instead of universally popular fighters getting in they keep revealing fighters that the typical gamer doesn't know about I am on fence because all the dlc are boring but that's just me.
With :ultmegaman::ultsonic::ultpacman::ultryu::ultcloud: in the base game, it's naturally going to be pretty hard to add characters as well-known and beloved as them. Nobody said all DLC characters are going to be A-list characters, so it's not like Nintendo was false advertising.

Also there's no such thing as a "universally popular" character, considering people complained about PAC-MAN in Smash 4.
 

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Guys, is All Star an allegory for Climate Change? Think about it:
"The ice we skate, is getting pretty thin
The water's getting warm so you might as well swim
My world's on fire, how about yours
That's the way I like it and I'll never get bored"

Hmm...
 

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Guys, is All Star an allegory for Climate Change? Think about it:
"The ice we skate, is getting pretty thin
The water's getting warm so you might as well swim
My world's on fire, how about yours
That's the way I like it and I'll never get bored"

Hmm...
I thought about that the other day, though I'm sure that global warming or climate change was well-known back then - people have been saying that it could happen since 1912.
 
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Dragon Quest is a series that sadly gets too overlooked outside of Japan in general, so I sadly expected the western smash fandom to go hard on it just for being unknown territory in their eyes.

Doh hopefully things seem to be changing for the better in regards to the western DQ fandom, since so far DQXI S could become the FE Awakening of DQ, which alongside the Smash content and push from both Nintendo, Square and DQ fans worldwide could finally make the series come close to Fire Emblem and start getting less scenarios of region-locked products.

The fact the western fandom succeeded at giving the Switch ports of the Erdrick trilogy an english translation seems like the first of many great things to come after all this push.
 
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There aren't really any "universally popular" fighters. Every character is going to have their detractors, and regardless of who gets in, there's going to be a decent number of people whining about it because it wasn't the incredibly specific character that they wanted.
Yes but if Whaluigi got in there whould be less complainers compared to if Starfe from the Legend of Starfe got in even tho he whould make an great fighter he is not very recognizeable same with Geno unfortunately.
 

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Dragon Quest is a series that sadly gets too overlooked outside of Japan in general, so I sadly expected the western smash fandom to go hard on it just for being unknown territory in their eyes.
Same with KOF....like, really. Others LOVE that Terry is in but...
 
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Jin: By far the most morally upstanding of the Mishimas and could even be argued to be a decent person
Also Jin: STARTS WORLD WAR 3, LEADING TO COUNTLESS LIVES LOST, INCLUDING THE WIFE OF A SPANIARD THAT IS NOW OUT FOR HIS BLOOD AND THE WHOLE FAMILY OF THE REPORTER OF TEKKEN 7.
So what you're saying is Jin is Edelgard.
 
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With :ultmegaman::ultsonic::ultpacman::ultryu::ultcloud: in the base game, it's naturally going to be pretty hard to add characters as well-known and beloved as them. Nobody said all DLC characters are going to be A-list characters, so it's not like Nintendo was false advertising.

Also there's no such thing as a "universally popular" character, considering people complained about PAC-MAN in Smash 4.
I more ment Fighters Like Steve Sans Crash Tails Whaluigi whould get less backlash because they are notable
 

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Yes but if Whaluigi got in there whould be less complainers compared to if Starfe from the Legend of Starfe got in even tho he whould make an great fighter he is not very recognizeable same with Geno unfortunately.
There would definitely be complaints for Waluigi's inclusion, considering that, he's already an assist trophy (which is an unprecedented change to happen in the middle of the game's life-span, and might be viewed as the fandom getting their way through sheer whining), he doesn't have much material to work with aside from combining elements from a bunch of unrelated games, and he's not an incredibly important character to the Mario series. (he was created solely because Wario needed a doubles partner for tennis, and his main defining characteristic is his unending hatred of Luigi)

He could be an interesting character, but he's definitely not universally popular.

EDIT: The same thing could go for Steve (as we saw during the period where it was uncertain who, if anyone, Microsoft would get in Smash), Tails (people would complain because we didn't get Shadow, Eggman, or Knuckles - try as I might, I couldn't fit "& Knuckles" in there smoothly), Crash (people who are unfamiliar with the games would complain that he'd have a bland moveset), or Sans. (especially since he'd be getting in over characters like Shovel Knight, Shantae, and other indie characters)
 
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I more ment Fighters Like Steve Sans Crash Tails Whaluigi whould get less backlash because they are notable
In which context do we mean "universally" popular characters? As in just the Smash fanbase or gaming in general? Because some of those names are leaning to the former.
 

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I more ment Fighters Like Steve Sans Crash Tails Whaluigi whould get less backlash because they are notable
Choosing characters just to minimize the vocal hate is a bad business move. Most rabid haters either complain about the content they won't buy or purchase it anyway. It's better appealing to fans rather than adding characters for the sake of shutting up internet randos.

(Also in which universe Waluigi is a notable character?)
 

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I've said this before but I really hate how whenever a new character is revealed we always go into this cycle of complaining about the haters

People are dumb, there are always going to be complaints about the new character, there is nothing interesting to be gained from talking about haters

It'd be ok if it was just once or twice we talked about it, but no these discussions always go on for like a week after the reveal

It's even worse since so many people get on their high horse to explain why the character is great even though half the time they're preaching to the choir, these haters are a minority

It's almost as bad as all the "Imagine showing this to someone 10 years ago!" posts
 
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>Crash Bandicoot
>Less backlash than Starfy, Phoenix Wright or Terry.

My friend, I envy you for not living what I have lived for years.

Because I’ve found myself with way, waaay too many people who would despise to see Crash Bandicoot getting in Smash instead of Doomguy, Rayman or many other popular picks. Even though most are probably as equally likely as Crash Bandicoot is.


Again, a huge part of the Smash fandom tends to do many kinds of dumb stretches to “deconfirm” the stuff they don’t like or isn’t what they ask for. I lived it as a Metroid, Dragon Quest and Crash fan through the years.
 

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While I don't think this pass has been bad and deserves some of the flak it's been getting recently, I can also understand why people would be disappointed. Setting aside whether or not a character "deserves" to get in, 3/4 of these DLC characters haven't been highly requested. Actually, they've hardly been requested at all. The one who's come closest is Hero, who comes from a series a decent amount of people wanted in Smash. No one could agree on who to add though, so Hero was a bit of a suprise as well.

I guess a lot of people who pre-purchased the pass were expecting characters whose names get thrown around a lot. Now it's all on them for purchasing the pass ahead of time and getting disappointed when there was nothing that suggested what the characters would be like, but if someone was waiting before they bought anything, I couldn't be mad at them if they said they weren't enjoying the reveals so far.
 

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Well, Ladies, Gentlemen & Hedgedog ****, I've come to make to make a announcement.

Remember this this funny Eggman sprite I did before? This one?

Well guess what, I decided to color it all by myself, and this is what I got.

Think it could look better in some area, but hey, still learning, hope you enjoy nonethless. (Also, I choosed a blue background to represent the ever lasting nightmare Eggman is in, it's a artistic touch you could say)

Tagging @Taylor F , Guh-Huzzah! Guh-Huzzah! , Wademan94 Wademan94 , KarneraMythos KarneraMythos , Dyllybirdy Dyllybirdy ,@JDCabrera , Tako Tuesday Tako Tuesday & redfeatherraven redfeatherraven .

Hope I didn't miss anyone.
 
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Well, Ladies, Gentlemen & Hedgedog ****, I've come to make to make a announcement.

Remember this this funny Eggman sprite I did before? This one?

Well guess what, I decided to color it all by myself, and this is what I got.

Think it could look better in some area, but hey, still learning, hope you enjoy nonethless. (Also, I choosed a blue background to represent the ever lasting nightmare Eggman is in, it's a artistic touch you could say)

Tagging @Taylor F , Guh-Huzzah! Guh-Huzzah! , Wademan94 Wademan94 , KarneraMythos KarneraMythos , Dyllybirdy Dyllybirdy ,@JDCabrera , Tako Tuesday Tako Tuesday & redfeatherraven redfeatherraven .

Hope I didn't miss anyone.
You did a completely awesome job with the colours!
 
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