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[Wademan94]

The weird thing is that his old VA came back to redo Squirtle's lines.

So why not have her do Red again?

I kinda wish they brought in Bryce to reprise Red from Origins.

 

[Will]

The weird thing is that his old VA came back to redo Squirtle's lines.

So why not have her do Red again?

you serious? they actually did that?

#boycottnintendo

 

[Cosmic77]

At the same time you need to realize that it isn't easy to change your outlook on stuff like this. What you're saying is basically "Hey, depressed person, just stop being depressed!" As if it's easy as hitting a switch

I work in a hospital, so I'm used to helping patients who're suffering from depression. Not everyone fully recovers, but there are several things as a nurse you can do to help. You can listen to them, let them vent, ask if they need company - things like that. Letting the patient stay depressed and continue to believe that their life will always suck does more harm than good. In many cases, it can actually be harmful to the patient's health.

All I'm trying to say is that no one knows the future, so it concerns me whenever I hear someone say something along the lines of, "I can never bounce back. That's just how things are." Could it be that the person doesn't really believe that and they're just saying that because something bad recently happened in their life? Possibly, but I can't dismiss what they say either. It's something that needs to be addressed, otherwise that person will likely struggle to recover.

 

[Deleted member]

Not being in a stable mindset + only getting3 hours of sleep

seems legit

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

oh blah. f these cheesy motivational speeches

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I work in a hospital, so I'm used to helping patients who're suffering from depression. Not everyone fully recovers, but there are several things as a nurse you can do to help. You can listen to them, let them vent, ask if they need company - things like that. Letting the patient stay depressed and continue to believe that their life will always suck does more harm than good. In many cases, it can actually be harmful to the patient's health.

All I'm trying to say is that no one knows the future, so it concerns me whenever I hear someone say something along the lines, "I can never bounce back. That's just how things are." Could it be that the person doesn't really believe that and they're just saying that because something bad recently happened in their life? Possibly, but I can't dismiss what they say either. It's something that needs to be addressed, otherwise that person will likely struggle to recover.

At the same time you should know depression isn't something you cure but rather learn to deal with. There's a difference between saying "Get over depression already" and "Stay depressed then I suppose"

 

[Cosmic77]

oh blah. f these cheesy motivational speeches

Would you like an unmotivational speech instead?

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Would you like an unmotivational speech instead?

No Plz Dr. Phil, thats half my bank account

 

[Raxxel]

>be me
>be Wu Di
>chinese emperor
>want to live forever
>want everyone to live forever
>gotta make my mark on history
>search the legends
>look at the myths
>rock the dragon
>create a potion that's obviously an immortality elixir
>followed the key ingredients from all the stories
>drink the potion in front of everyone
>explode
>mfw i just discovered gunpowder
>mfw i just inadvertently created the main tool of weaponry used to take lives instead of keeping them

get it he's empty cause he exploded

Guess you can say, you didn't think you WoUld DIe.

 

[Alicorn]

Depression is something that I don't understand. Sure I had down days but never have I let myself fall into a slumper.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

I'm genuinely trying to help. As I edited in, because I figured it's probably more helpful, I'm more than happy to DM/PM if anybody needs somebody to just listen.

Folks here have done that before, so it really isn't an issue for me. I just believe in you folks, and hate to see people suffering from circumstances that nobody would want to happen to them.

 

[Will]

Guess you can say, you didn't think you WoUld DIe.

A for Effort

 

[Cosmic77]

At the same time you should know depression isn't something you cure but rather learn to deal with. There's a difference between saying "Get over depression already" and "Stay depressed then I suppose"

Now that's not true. Depression is absolutely something you can cure, and no one should ever have to learn to "deal with it". It's not as simple as taking a few medications and magically making it disappear, but people can definitely move on from it with treatment. The bad memories and feelings will always exist, but they'll gradually weaken over time until the person feels comfortable enough to bring them up in conversation without fear that they'll relapse back into depression.

 

[DerpingPikachu]

As someone who was depressed for many years, I can say with some certainty that you CAN overcome it. Ever since getting my job and just getting my life in order in general, I’ve been generally pretty happy. Now of course it’s normal to still have sad days, but it is possible to get to a point where you aren’t moping around all the time anymore.

 

[Aurane]

Depression is something that I don't understand. Sure I had down days but never have I let myself fall into a slumper.

Depression isn't something we "let" happen. ._.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Now that's not true. Depression is absolutely something you can cure, and no one should ever have to learn to "deal with it". It's not as simple as taking a few medications and magically making it disappear, but people can definitely move on from it with treatment. The bad memories and feelings will always exist, but they'll gradually weaken over time until the person feels comfortable enough to bring them up in conversation without fear that they'll relapse back into depression.

That's bad wording on my part then as I probably should have said 'cope'. Plus, we already have plenty of examples of depression getting VERY bad

 

[Aurane]

Now that's not true. Depression is absolutely something you can cure

...No. -_-

You can treat depression, but you can't cure it. Depression is something someone has to carry for the rest of their life. Over time, they may learn how to cope with it, and may even take medication for it to offside it, but cure it? That's simply not possible.

 

[Noipoi]

‘Sup, goober dangles

 

[Alicorn]

Depression isn't something we "let" happen. ._.

I apologize

 

[Aurane]

I apologize

No worries.

 

[DerpingPikachu]

‘Sup, goober dangles

There seems to be a heated debate about depression happening so uhh yeah

 

[Gentlepanda]

tfw you go to get the AMA sorted but images are dead

tomorrow, then

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

I do want to note that folks with depression should never be stigmatized into being people who are, “Really sad” and can just, “cheer up” because it’s a complete mischaracterization of what they’re actually experiencing.

I’m not going to be the guy to say, “Nah, THIS is what folks experience”, but as with any other person I typically live by the idea to seek to understand others first, then to be understood.

I am aware that there are treatments and that they’re successful, but I’m not aware of how effective or how long folks need to be treated for it. I’m a relative noob, so I will not take a stance.

Give folks the time of day to articulate what is on their mind, and then you can actually conduct a conversation of substance with them. That’s just something I feel is relevant to that conversation. But again, I’m certainly not an expert on the subject.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

‘Sup, goober dangles

I'm being spammed with text to speech memes because of KR

 

[Cosmic77]

...No. -_-

You can treat depression, but you can't cure it. Depression is something someone has to carry for the rest of their life. Over time, they may learn how to cope with it, and may even take medication for it to offside it, but cure it? That's simply not possible.

I think you're confusing "depression" with "getting sad from a memory". Depression is diagnosed after its symptoms persist for more than two weeks. If you're sad for a about a day or two, you might be "feeling depressed", but no, you would not require any interventions. Under normal circumstances, these people can resolve the issue on their own.

I can say from experience that depression is something you can conquer. The memory of your past will stay, but you can move on from it and eventually learn to be okay with it.

 

[Noipoi]

I dunno anything about depression.

I used to think I had it but I was just really unsatisfied with my current situation.

So I’m not qualified for this discussion lol

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

...No. -_-

You can treat depression, but you can't cure it. Depression is something someone has to carry for the rest of their life. Over time, they may learn how to cope with it, and may even take medication for it to offside it, but cure it? That's simply not possible.

who the **** says you can cure that ****

 

[Will]

who the **** says you can cure that ****

Now that's not true. Depression is absolutely something you can cure

ay man i got nothing to do with this im just leaving the table out there

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

ay man i got nothing to do with this im just leaving the table out there

Is this table real wood or fake wood?
Im not spending over 100 bucks for a fake wodden table

 

[Noipoi]

Is this table real wood or fake wood?
Im not spending over 100 bucks for a fake wodden table

It’s mahogany

 

[DerpingPikachu]

who the **** says you can cure that ****

I mean, I overcame my depression, and I was moping around for four years.

 

[Hat N' Clogs]

Depression is something that I don't understand. Sure I had down days but never have I let myself fall into a slumper.

Depression is a very complicated beast that must be taken carefully. I say this as someone who would've been diagnosed with clinical depression (more likely than not) back in 2016-17, along with being someone that took psychology classes in college.

It's something that can begin for a variety of reasons. Maybe it's a stressful job, death in the family, a break-up, being self-critical, not having a balanced and healthy diet... there are a miriad of reasons as to why someone struggles with depression. Everyone's story is different, and those who struggle with depression seriously wish that they wouldn't feel depressed, but unfortunately suffer from it anyway. Depression is like a dark hole; it sucks out any light in your life and it's more than just feeling "sad". Depression has many symptoms, and it's more than simply feeling "down"... these symptoms also include irritability, mood swings, losing interest in favorite activities, and poor sleep patterns.

While it's a condition that could come back and rear its ugly head, it's certainly not un-treatable. It depends on the person with what kind of counseling and healing they need, and people recover in different ways. For some, they recover from depression after only a couple weeks. Some, on the other hand, may have the terrible condition for life; God-forbid. Some may only go to a counselor once in their lives, while others may be in-and-out of counseling throughout. It really depends on the person and what they're dealing with.

Final thing I'll say for now: depression and anything related to it should not be glamorized. At the same time, it should not be taken lightly or flippantly either. Best thing we can do with people who struggle with depression is to support them and help them push through whatever situation they're dealing with. While it's not something that has a "cure" perse, it can be beaten... at least, to a degree. Not "curable", but "treatable." With that, rallying around the person who is depressed can help them heal and that's absolutely necessary. Loving others will help them get the healing that they need.

 

[Aurane]

Edit: You know what? Forget it. I'm not even going to bother.

 

[Cosmic77]

Okay, but that's not curing it. That's still treating it. Definition of curing is that it's gone forever. Treating it means to offset it and make it tolerable, which can include simply coping with it. If you remove what's keeping it away, it comes back. Maybe not as heavily as before, but it's still there regardless. Memories are a segment of what depression is, but not as a whole.

I was diagnosed with major depression. It's a mental health disorder defined by constant depressed moods, causing significant impairment in daily life. I've had to deal with this particular topic for my entire life. To this day, I've yet to find anything that treats my depression, or hell, "cures" it. For some, depression is simply something that they have to live with, and accept the effects it brings. Others, it's something they forget they have.

This topic sucks. I'll be back later.

If you're not experiencing it every day or multiple times a month, then by definition, you've been cured. There's nothing I can do if you randomly feel sad on a rainy day in April. Maybe I could make you some ice cream and give you a warm blanket, but it's nothing you need to talk to your doctor about.

But I'll drop the topic for now. Frankly, no one really wants to debate this anyway.

 

[CosmicQuark]

I dunno anything about depression.

I used to think I had it but I was just really unsatisfied with my current situation.

So I’m not qualified for this discussion lol

Yeah, same. I'm not sure if I have depression and don't want to diminish those who have been professionally diagnosed by saying I do, despite all of my friends and family saying I do. I have all the symptoms, but can't afford to see a therapist. I had the opportunity when I was in college, and would make appointments--only to always sleep through them, or get too anxious. And it's weird because--rationally I don't have the issue most people have, as I think it's healthy and shouldn't have any stigma attached to it--it's just an overwhelming feeling of "I don't want to do this." Which was the same thing that ****ed me over in college.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

I do want to preface what I'm about to say with this brief mention that I am by no means saying anyone in this thread that is dealing with depression isn't. I would never suggest that.

That said, during the school year my mentor teacher was telling me about her partner, who is a psychologist. Apparently, from what her partner said, a lot of the younger folks she works with who said they were experiencing depression and anxiety weren't actually depressed in the clinical sense, or having anxiety like some of the more extreme cases; rather, the young folks she worked with didn't have the knowledge of how to cope with the feelings they had, and simply characterized it as worse than it actually was, because they didn't have any effective ways to cope.

I personally feel that the world we currently inhabit doesn't give enough support for mental health or coping mechanisms. A good portion of the world invalidates sadness or anger, rather than treating them as real emotions that we all need to sift through and understand better. Of course, that also depends upon race, gender, cultural background, etc. It's such a complex issue, but that's no excuse to not do anything to make things better.

I do have to wonder, and therefore may have to do some reading myself, on what the connections of a lack of coping mechanisms and developing actual clinical depression or anxiety. I simply don't think we do enough to help folks as they grow and experience things that require tools to cope.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Here's something to brighten the mood

Discuss this matter of utmost importance

 

[Raxxel]

I've been diagnosed with depression before, but I honestly think it's something that is case by case as it affects people differently, so I regardless don't feel like I have much of a say as to how someone deals with it.

 

[Hat N' Clogs]

I do want to preface what I'm about to say with this brief mention that I am by no means saying anyone in this thread that is dealing with depression isn't. I would never suggest that.

That said, during the school year my mentor teacher was telling me about her partner, who is a psychologist. Apparently, from what her partner said, a lot of the younger folks she works with who said they were experiencing depression and anxiety weren't actually depressed in the clinical sense, or having anxiety like some of the more extreme cases; rather, the young folks she worked with didn't have the knowledge of how to cope with the feelings they had, and simply characterized it as worse than it actually was, because they didn't have any effective ways to cope.

This is unfortunately common, and I've perceived it myself. I think it would be good to have school counselors trained in the art of giving good advice to others and helping anyone (especially students) understand what proper coping mechanisms are. I think it's also vital (and even more vital) for parents to teach their children about emotions and how to cope with both positive and negative emotions.

One improper coping mechanism I noticed is putting emotions aside and bottling them up. I'm personally guilty of this because I'm someone that doesn't show my true emotions easily. But, it is alright to show your true feelings as long as it's in a healthy way. There are multiple coping mechanisms that one can use, but they must be helpful in truly healing the person too.

I've been diagnosed with depression before, but I honestly think it's something that is case by case as it affects people differently, so I regardless don't feel like I have much of a say as to how someone deals with it.

I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you can heal well.

 

[DerpingPikachu]

I gotta go, my movie’s starting. See you guys later.