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But Mashpotato Samurai said so, so it must be true!
And yet people don't take into account when he's been entirely wrong/biased/contradictory on other issues in the past.

Or hell, not-creative for that matter. Great Lord Chrom would have been perfectly fine, since there's lots of unique things that Chrom gets post-promotion. Too bad Sakurai's stubborn like that. Grumble.
 

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Paper Mario shouldn't be a priority with Mario and Dr. Mario around. Same deal as Young Link.

I wouldn't mind them, but to be honest, they shouldn't be much of a priority when there are other, more unique characters that could be added instead.

You know, like Wolf, Lucas, Snake...

Fixed a major error in your post. :p
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The misconception is, of course, that Ridley's size was never a defining trait of his, and claiming otherwise just shows immense ignorance.
To add to this, Sakurai himself arbitrarily decided that shrinking Ridley down wouldn't make him "Ridley" and accurately portray him (never mind the fact that Ridley's designs haven't been consistent in past Metroid games).

I still think the major problem was due to programming (may have been a problem in Brawl as well).
 

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And would be like, what, the 3rd Mario in the game?

That would be like adding Shiny Pikachu and then adding Ritchie's pikachu, Sparky into the game
Or we can have Sakurai or the new director axe Dr. Mario and replace him with Paper Mario. Does that sound better? :p

If it's too much, then I can understand that Toad would be much more fitting as the newcomer given he's the last major Mario character to cover. I've always wondered if Sakurai had something against him and Captain Toad alone should be enough to show him that he's worthy of being a fighter.
 

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I would say Ridley is the second most notable character in the Metroid series, yes? Unfortunately though, his body shape wouldn't work. Size, limbs, neck, tail, wings... these are all features that Ridley was regrettable born with that have stunted his process into the Smash roster. Size, though, is the least of his problems. It's his other features that I pointed out. If we're talking size, Kraid would be a better fitting fighter in Smash. He would have a similar shape that of Bowser's. But wait... he's HUGE! Oh that's right, they can shrink him.

The Ridley argument isn't valid.
 
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And yet people don't take into account when he's been entirely wrong/biased/contradictory on other issues in the past.

Or hell, not-creative for that matter. Great Lord Chrom would have been perfectly fine, since there's lots of unique things that Chrom gets post-promotion. Too bad Sakurai's stubborn like that. Grumble.
Have you ever made a game before? :troll:
 

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And yet people don't take into account when he's been entirely wrong/biased/contradictory on other issues in the past.

Or hell, not-creative for that matter. Great Lord Chrom would have been perfectly fine, since there's lots of unique things that Chrom gets post-promotion. Too bad Sakurai's stubborn like that. Grumble.
Chrom could have been cool, yes, but I like my Thorons and my Levin Swords.
 

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Or we can have Sakurai or the new director axe Dr. Mario and replace him with Paper Mario. Does that sound better? :p

If it's too much, then I can understand that Toad would be much more fitting as the newcomer given he's the last major Mario character to cover. I've always wondered if Sakurai had something against him and Captain Toad alone should be enough to show him that he's worthy of being a fighter.
Pretty sure that Clown Cars convinced Sakurai to put Bowser Jr. in the game.

Bowser Jr. first used the Junior Clown Car in New Super Mario Bros. Wii, released two years after Brawl. He also used it in NSMB U. Besides using tools from his original appearances, he also has a lot of creative liberties and cues from Mario Kart (that had Clown Car themed karts) and Super Mario World (Mecha Koopas like daddy Bowser used in that game's boss battle).

Overall, a great addition and let haters hate.
 
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I'm sure you've seen the mod:

He did it! Ridley actually made it!... but imagine fighting against that beast in FG. It's the thought that counts. It's not impossible for him to be in Smash, but it's the after effect of him being in that would ruin it. It would literally be a boss battle every time you fought him.
 
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And with Paper Mario being the one with a brand new moveset. inb4 M&L Mario, inb4 Mario Kart Mario, inb4 SMRPG Mario, inb4 Mario Party Mario, inb4 TV Show Mario, and so on.
From my personal support experience, I grew to hate that joke.

Because I get it here, but most cases of its mention was sarcastic.

Anyway, seriously, it's been a long time I got message that I just want to say "THIS" about Paper Mario :)

cause all speculation died and all that :)

let me actually find if I can invite on the group :)
 

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The roster could have 100 characters, including Metroid characters besides Samus, and none of them be Ridley.

People would still complain.

WHOA, DUDE, YOU DIDN'T GIVE A SINGLE **** ABOUT MY POST!?

Careful Frost, you could cut yourself with that edge...because it's so edgy.
And the next candidate to my ignore list is... :smirk:
 

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Pretty sure that Clown Cars convinced Sakurai to put Bowser Jr. in the game.

Bowser Jr. first used the Junior Clown Car in New Super Mario Bros. Wii, released two years after Brawl. He also used it in NSMB U. Besides using tools from his original appearances, he also has a lot of creative liberties and cues from Mario Kart (that had Clown Car themed karts) and Super Mario World (Mecha Koopas like daddy Bowser used in that game's boss battle).

Overall, a great addition and let haters hate.
He used the clown car during his boss fight in Mario Party 9, and it had a grabby claw on it. (Like the one from his grab).
And in NSMB2, the Koopalings rode in the clown car.
All 7 of them.
At the same time.
The clown car is sort of their thing now, and I'm fine with that.
 
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It's kind of ironic, cause I've been wanting Bowser Jr. in Smash for the longest time. Now that we have him, I don't care for him. Still a nice addition! I just kind of wish we had more of like the SM: Sunshine type Bowser Jr.
 
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@PushDustIn made himself a list that reflects who the Japanese want for Smash DLC akin to the user @ChronoBound.



I'm actually surprised with all the Puyo Puyo and Yokai Life gets so much love (And Crash is still relevant?) And there goes the Ridley fanboys even though Sakurai had already rejected him to begin with. Good to see that the Kurrupted King gets all the help he needs from the Land of the Rising Sun and Roy is still our boy.

Overall, things have changed a lot now that the game is out and Mewtwo is striking back soon.
No Bomberman? Might as well throw this in the garbage.
 

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"LUCAS WAS CUT?! TELL ME, WAS IT BECAUSE OF THE 3DS? COULDN'T IT HANDLE LUCAS?!"
 

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Pretty sure that f(x) = - (x+2)^2 = -x^2 - 4x - 4.

I used this equation: (a+b)^2 = a^2 + 2ab + b^2

So, you use the following formula:
ax^2 + bx + c = 0 <=>
x = (-b +- sqrt(b^2 - 4ac) )/ 2a

In this case, you have:
x = (4 +- sqrt((-4)^2 - 4*(-1)*(-4) ) / 2*(-1)
<=>
x = 4 +- sqrt(16 - 16) / -2
<=>
x = 4 +- 0 / -2
<=>
x = -2

Since, there's only one value of x obtained, it means the function has only one solution for f(x) = 0. The fact it's a quadratic function, it means its graph is shaped like a parabola. Since it only intersects with the x-axis in one value (result of f(x) = 0 yielding one solution), it means it's the vertex that intersects.

The vertex and intersection with the x-axis is on x = -2, in accordance to the resolution above.

Hope this helps.
Do you know how to graph a parabola with no x-intercept
 

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Chrom could have been cool, yes, but I like my Thorons and my Levin Swords.
Never did I ever say anything about Robin, to note.


My ideal FE roster would have been Marth - Ike - Chrom - Robin.
 

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@PushDustIn made himself a list that reflects who the Japanese want for Smash DLC akin to the user @ChronoBound.



I'm actually surprised with all the Puyo Puyo and Yokai Life gets so much love (And Crash is still relevant?) And there goes the Ridley fanboys even though Sakurai had already rejected him to begin with. Good to see that the Kurrupted King gets all the help he needs from the Land of the Rising Sun and Roy is still our boy.

Overall, things have changed a lot now that the game is out and Mewtwo is striking back soon.
Why on earth does Pichu have that much percentage?
 

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Never did I ever say anything about Robin, to note.


My ideal FE roster would have been Marth - Ike - Chrom - Robin.
Oh I assumed you ment for this game, but you just mean generally.
Yeah, Chrom could have been unique, as could Lucina, but I'm personally fine with what we have.
 

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Why on earth does Pichu have that much percentage?
Why not? Pichu is awesome! Who wouldn't want to win with a baby Pokemon that hurts himself?

Is the Kecleon in the Lavaridge female hot spring always female?
 

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I'm sure you've seen the mod:

He did it! Ridley actually made it!... but imagine fighting against that beast in FG. It's the thought that counts. It's not impossible for him to be in Smash, but it's the after effect of him being in that would ruin it. It would literally be a boss battle every time you fought him.
I fail to see at all how that would be construed as a boss battle. If anything, that video shows that he's completely viable.
 

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because its pichu and people want it back because its pichu not knowing pikachu is better :troll:
inb4 raichu
I've always felt so bad for Raichu. I don't know what it was... maybe it was his color. Or maybe his raspy voice.
 
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He used the clown car during his boss fight in Mario Party 9, and it had a grabby claw on it. (Like the one from his grab).
And in NSMB2, the Koopalings rode in the clown car.
All 7 of them.
At the same time.
The clown car is sort of their thing now, and I'm fine with that.
It's easy to get creative with the Clown Car. You could add all sorts of mechanisms that would hardly look out of place.

Didn't know the claw thing was from Mario Party 9, though!

And yeah, the Koopalings rode the Clown Car too, which makes them fit as Bowser Jr.'s alts.

It's kind of ironic, cause I've been wanting Bowser Jr. in Smash for the longest time. Now that we have him, I don't care for him. Still a nice addition! I just kind of wish we had more of like the SM: Sunshine type Bowser Jr.
I also wanted Bowser Jr. in Brawl, but I kinda stopped caring about him for this game. While at the first time I knew of him in Smash 4 I didn't get to excited, upon seeing his moveset in action and all that, I really liked his addition. The moveset is greatly creative and fun, it pays homage to Bowser Jr.'s debut with the Final Smash being Shadow Mario and having the 7 Koopalings as alternate options is a great idea.

One of my favorite newcomers of this game. That's for sure.

Do you know how to graph a parabola with no x-intercept
I'm pretty sure I know that, but I'm not remembering it well. Sorry.

I think it depends on the value of b on the formula: ax^2 + bx + c.

You have to ensure the function doesn't have a value of zero within its domain.

There's more love for Pichu out there than I thought apparently.

I'd actually be really happy to see Pichu back myself, if they changed him up enough. :p
Pichu is kawaii. That's why.

I have my suspicions that Japan doesn't care about characters being clones. Not sure, but I get that impression.
 

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I fail to see at all how that would be construed as a boss battle. If anything, that video shows that he's completely viable.
He looked a little weird though.
He wasn't ever turning around in midair, and his back-air looked weird and long.
I dunno, just my personal observations, it's probably not finished.
He is a pretty big character though. Not too big... But still pretty big.
 

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He looked a little weird though.
He wasn't ever turning around in midair, and his back-air looked weird and long.
I dunno, just my personal observations, it's probably not finished.
He is a pretty big character though. Not too big... But still pretty big.
The idea is there, which is what matters. Obviously professionals would do a more polished job.

Hey Lucina is better than Chrom!
Sir, I'm afraid I have to disagree.
 

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It's kind of ironic, cause I've been wanting Bowser Jr. in Smash for the longest time. Now that we have him, I don't care for him. Still a nice addition! I just kind of wish we had more of like the SM: Sunshine type Bowser Jr.
I'm in the same boat. I do think he has an interesting moveset, but I would have preferred something inspired by his paintbrush. We're essentially playing as the "Clown Car" which bothers me a little since Jr. could offer much more, but what's done is done.

It would be cool if next Smash or whatever, they give Bowser Jr. a new moveset based on Sunshine, and keep the Koopalings in the Clown Car. Though, ehh, I don't really see this happening.
 
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Ok, well since it seems to go back, i'm just going to tell my thing on dr mario related to Paper Mario.

So, the worst case that I might get mad if it happens would be to not put dr mario, but put Paper Mario as a clone much like dr mario s (though, I should use semiclone here, it's tend to get merged, but my point is the same).

What this would mean is that they wanted a semiclone, but took not the best choices and I might say a bad one. Dr mario for a mario clone is really the best one. Prior experiences, moveset already worked....it does make it a bit easier when you have a base to work on saving dev time which btw, is one of the side reasons they would want a clone.

HOWEVER, putting Paper Mario as the clone is just bad. Obviously, it just completely waste the potential that again, you could push dr mario, but in no way you can go that much further to tell that it could be more unique to Paper Mario (pm me if you want to know why, this would be way to long to tell). But there's another reasons that I see no mention anywhere, it wastes dev time. You have to take him, MAKE NEW ANIMATIONS due to its structure, they HAVE to fit him well enough and then make moves that HAVE to require not much effort from the mario one and vary them a bit.

That is EXTREMELY pointless for Sakurai and team to do. If they want to do a clone, that means they don't have enough time to do a full new unique character. Therefore, by TRYING to do it with Paper Mario, it's contradicting the purpose.

HOWEVER, I want to remind you soemthing:

He CAN be a clone. That is like 100% objective, he CAN. The problem is is just does not make any sense if the intent is to actually do that. Plus, it just is so much different that really, it does become harder to use his potential so it FEELS enough different without breaking his nature....so, it's very unlikely for him to be a clone candidate even if it's possible.

Now, I just want to end this right there, dr mario as clone and Paper Mario not there at all is A VERY GREAT OUTCOME!!!!

Why?

Because it shows that they took a clone since they wanted to, but if they ever wanted to put Paper Mario (which is possible with the stage hint and the full repping), it was simply previously decided that they can't. Or, it was simply not there in the first place for reasons, but again, not putting him as a clone is a good thing and this is why I actually applaud Sakurai for that....he got a stage, that alone is big.

Now, both can be in.

Ok, I just want to rant on this because this has been frustating me so much and no one get it.

When 4 rep was confirmed, I saw a lot saying it was enough (which is true), but going to say there shoudln't is just....why?

Because when rosalina got announced, mind blown and guess what? People thought, "ok I can live with this, but THIS time it's it, there's just no chances for anything mario now". Again, considering Sakurai potential, why?

Bowser jr and dr mario confirmed, FULL FREAKING HATE and even flamming on the Paper Mario thread for dr mario so much that I had to make this into private group....

AND I STILL SEE THE SAME THING AS NO REP SHOULD BE THERE NOW!!!!!

Like, sorry, but this makes so much no sense that I really grew tired of the repping thinking here. There's flaws in logic that I really just want to not read and just get back on my thread.

As for my stands on dr mario, as I just said, I'm perfectly fine with him getting in or not if Paper Mario is in or not. meaning that if you flame dr mario for that, I really think you should think twice, because there's like no relation.

Dr mario in DOES NOT = not Paper Mario
and Paper Mario in DOES NOT = not dr mario.

I have to be direct for once, but you now get why I don't talk on character discussion.

I could try to get it before, but considering the recurrence of the situation 3 times, I'm just mad to try to talk about this now.
 

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Hey Lucina is better than Chrom!

Micaiah would have been the best choice though.
*gags* THE WRONG IT BUUUUURRNS!

Everyone knows that Micaiah and Sothe are both horrible characters who are also average units. :4myfriends: is the only correct Tellius rep.

If Awakening didn't get a rep, I would rather have Ephriam, Alm, or Hector.
 
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