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Soapbox: On College

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18.4 million American students are projected to have enrolled in colleges this year. The statistic indicates a 3.1 million increase since 2000: an increase that is three times the amount of the previous decade. Without a doubt, more and more high school graduates are being shipped off to college. Many of these students implicitly know why they are going to college: make the six-figure salary, marry a "sophisticated" spouse, and to make mommy and daddy proud. Very few high school students know how the real world works or even how college works. In fact, many students don’t even know who they really are as they have yet to face hardships that will test who they are as a human being. As more students begin to filter into college, more trees need to be chopped down in order to serve as commemoration for four years of beer pong, cramming, and mediocre effort put into classes. There are much deeper reasons behind the increasing demand for the college diploma that exceed the simple economic expectations of supply and demand.

When new innovations come out, we often embrace it with open arms. After all, a gadget that comes with an extra utility enables us to get tasks done faster, therefore allowing us more time for rest and relaxation. This is especially true for computers which made work much more efficient in terms of processing and communication. It seems foreign to believe that even the most simple of messages depended on the U.S. Postal Service or a courier whose job was to hand out such messages to addressed people. If such a job existed, the computer would have surely made such a position obsolete. It doesn’t take a college education in order to work a computer. But it might be required to grow genetically altered strains of grass that grow slowly and retain the ideal color for the front lawn. Many jobs would quickly become obsolete. No one in suburbia would need “foreign trained lawn care professionals” to mow their front lawn and companies would seriously need to redo how their business was originally done. In times of change, many people will get shafted. Often times these people would have made a decent five-figure salary out of hard work and long hours. It is possible that this could have been your friend, your neighbor, or even you.

The Justice Department this past month investigated Monsanto over unfair policies. Monsanto, a company that designs genetically altered crops is currently the number one business in the agriculture market. It is notoriously known for forcing farmers to buy new seeds, making it illegal to regrow the seeds that develop from the last harvest. Frankly put this is absurd as it has always been a tradition for farmers to save seeds and regrow them when the soil is ready. Monsanto however with its scientist and lawyers have decided to rewrite the laws of human nature with their engineered products. Apparently having the best product on the market allows you to change centuries of human history. The college diploma has the potential to gap the difference between screwing over other people and being the person who gets screwed over. Behind every innovation there is profit and loss. A scientist who makes a new breakthrough that gains him fame and fortune could screw over a whole sector of the economy. Much like how computers reduced departments that deal with payroll and messaging into being a small-man team.

Regardless of what you decide to major in or study, it is important to think in terms of long term and short term benefits. It’s important to enjoy your studies, but it’s also important to acknowledge the fact that your field may not contain viable skills that will help you in the job market. Numerous people who major in the liberal arts apply to law school, simply because they cannot realistically attain a high income job with their bachelor’s degree. College is an expensive investment that you or your parents could have used to set up a small business or a deli. If you are not increasing your potential capital, then it is a wasted investment. I’m not denying you nights of beer pong or a night out with friends. But those nights out have to be well deserved as that is time being spent from attaining a better future.

In the end I’m sure you’re a great person. After all, you’re reading my blog. But it doesn’t matter what I think. It also doesn’t matter what you think. After you get out of college employers are going to judge how you wasted four years of life in academia. No matter where you go or who you decide to work for, you will always be working underneath someone else. That someone will determine the worth of your potential, the worth of your stature, and the worth of your resume. As much as you delude yourself into believing you’re special and different from everyone else, there will be at least nine hundred resumes from other applicants stating the same exact thing. It could be possible that the one class you got a D in because you thought it was “b.s.” could cause your application to hit the paper shredder before a single person sees it. It could be possible that one night out of town could have cost you the one point on the exam you needed in order to get a lucrative job offer. On this note, I would like to contrast what I’m stating to an overused lie, “Doing something is better than doing nothing at all.” Here is my addendum to the statement. It is importance to excel at a few things than to waste your time doing mundane things. In college there is room for exploration and involvement. But it’s important to find a few things you like and excel at rather than choosing things that bore you and jeopardize time that can be spent improving your potential (working at McDonalds has small income benefits compared to fitting an extra class into your schedule [$900 value for $0]). The key word to college is efficiency.

Despite best intentions, putting in your best face often leads to that face being smashed in and crapped on repeatedly by society. Being fired from a job, failing a class, and being mocked can often times make you question how you spent your past four years in college. The humiliation and failure can sometimes make you lose all motivation as the pain of loss seems to outweigh the small accomplishments you may get from actually succeeding. Human beings are frail and fail all the time. It’s not important to measure the fall, but to witness the small steps that are taken in the comeback. Human beings are not fascinating because they are perfect. We are all unique because we have our imperfections and weaknesses. There are times when we have triumphed and other times we have failed. These events are gradually chiseled to form who we are as people and how we relate to the rest of society. The true difference between a success story and a depressed story is often times in the ending. And those pages are written by you and me. It is our duties as primary authors to give our lives happy endings. No one else should tell you differently. If anything should be stressed out of this whole mess, the value of a college diploma should never outweigh the value of a human life. Even if that person eventually became Dick Cheney or the guy who finalized the designs for the iPad.
 

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College is overrated.

It could be possible that the one class you got a D in because you thought it was “b.s.” could cause your application to hit the paper shredder before a single person sees it.
I guess I'll weigh in on that one. In my experience, no. Employers almost always look for experience first. Grades may come into play during the interview if there are a lot of applicants or if the position requires it somehow (I once applied for a position for which the employer asked to see transcripts, but that was only one out of many *edit: If you're looking into a research position in an academic setting, then, yes, grades will factor in, but academia is not really what I'd call "lucrative"). Good grades are more important if you want to get a higher degree. They may help you if you want to work for the elite in your field, but the majority of us won't make it that far. And if that's your ultimate aim anyway, you might as well see if you can get a loan (or a scholarship or financial aid) and take your good grades to graduate school for a Master's or a PhD.

Edit: Generally, you'd want good grades just so you can say you got good grades if it ever comes up during an interview. But a 4.0 GPA in the workplace isn't always better than a 3.5 GPA. I say this because I have a job (a crappy job, but a job nonetheless), while another guy I know hasn't found work since he graduated last year from a better school with a higher GPA than me. I've also, however, been working in the field longer, and so I have more experience. And we did both apply to the same company.

All of this varies by industry and location, of course; I'm just offering what I know based on my own experiences (in the scientific-industrial field) and that of others I've known. Take it as you will.

It could be possible that one night out of town could have cost you the one point on the exam you needed in order to get a lucrative job offer.
All work and no play makes Jack throw himself off the roof of a parking structure. Single points on exams don't directly translate into job offers. Networking with professors or people with connections might be time better spent if your goal is to get ahead in the job market. Furthermore, students who do nothing but study and count single points tend to...snap. And it ain't pretty.

Sidenote: If it were up to me, I'd put more tax dollars into vocational programs to keep private schools from ripping off students who never had a shot at going to a four-year university in the first place.

Anyway. Nice blog. /rant
 

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College is really what you make of it. I've been in and out of school since I was 17, I've been to three schools in two states, a large public university, a community college and a small liberal arts college. I've lost money on school, and I've made money on school, had great GPAs and poor GPAs, had lots of friends and no friends.

The only difference between any of those outcomes is that I approached some of those experiences differently. College is the same everywhere, it's all in how you approach it. If you approach it as a four year waste of time and money, that's exactly what you're going to get.
 

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College is overrated.I guess I'll weigh in on that one. In my experience, no. Employers almost always look for experience first. Grades may come into play during the interview if there are a lot of applicants or if the position requires it somehow (I once applied for a position for which the employer asked to see transcripts, but that was only one out of many *edit: If you're looking into a research position in an academic setting, then, yes, grades will factor in, but academia is not really what I'd call "lucrative"). Good grades are more important if you want to get a higher degree. They may help you if you want to work for the elite in your field, but the majority of us won't make it that far. And if that's your ultimate aim anyway, you might as well see if you can get a loan (or a scholarship or financial aid) and take your good grades to graduate school for a Master's or a PhD.

Edit: Generally, you'd want good grades just so you can say you got good grades if it ever comes up during an interview. But a 4.0 GPA in the workplace isn't always better than a 3.5 GPA. I say this because I have a job (a crappy job, but a job nonetheless), while another guy I know hasn't found work since he graduated last year from a better school with a higher GPA than me. I've also, however, been working in the field longer, and so I have more experience. And we did both apply to the same company.

All of this varies by industry and location, of course; I'm just offering what I know based on my own experiences (in the scientific-industrial field) and that of others I've known. Take it as you will.
Oh no I definitely agree. A lot of applications can also be touch and go. In general though, knowing what you are doing often translates into better grades. And in general getting better grades helps you to get internships and other experiences that you wouldn't obtain normally. Having experience in the market is definitely viewed as the major factor into getting accepted for a job. But getting that initial internship and experience often hinges on factors like grades. Grades can get your foot into the door for many things, but shouldn't be the only thing anyone should only focus all their time on as a student. I would incorporate this but I didn't want to really draw out the rant.

College is really what you make of it. I've been in and out of school since I was 17, I've been to three schools in two states, a large public university, a community college and a small liberal arts college. I've lost money on school, and I've made money on school, had great GPAs and poor GPAs, had lots of friends and no friends.

The only difference between any of those outcomes is that I approached some of those experiences differently. College is the same everywhere, it's all in how you approach it. If you approach it as a four year waste of time and money, that's exactly what you're going to get.
It's true. Personal philosophy and approach are important factors towards success. Sometimes though it's the fear that your wasting your time in college that leads certain students to work hard and make their college experience matter. I began writing this with the first three paragraphs to emphasize how I was thinking about higher education having the possibility to polarize incomes and draw away from America's large middle-income class. Especially since apomitic grass and other scientific studies on a master's/PhD level can cause many people to get shafted. It's not like your bachelor's degree is going to automatically make you a millionaire. As I'm still an undergrad hitting third year crunch time, I guess I wanted to speculate on the actual value of my diploma. I have no delusions of grandeur. I'm applying to several USDA jobs where starting pay will be $30,000-40,000. I of course, do not have the legitimate credentials to compare to someone who has already graduated and is employed by the job market. But I wanted to give a heads up to a small percentage of people who haven't considered the tentative value of a college diploma.

I actually read it all, but I cba making a decent reply.
Just saying, university is better.
In the U.S. "college" is synonymous with "university". Sorry for the cultural confusion.
 

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I confused college with another institution :o
In Holland you have MBO, HBO and university after you finish high school, university being the best. I thought college was equal to HBO.
 

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I confused college with another institution :o
In Holland you have MBO, HBO and university after you finish high school, university being the best. I thought college was equal to HBO.
I didn't even know what an MBO and HBO were before I looked it up so don't sweat it.

Holy ****. I can't even express how much you just enlightened me sir. O_O
Thanks. I was a bit self-conscious about how this blog turned out. I tend to hate everything I write when I look back on it the next day. I'm happy that you profited from reading it.
 

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As I'm still an undergrad hitting third year crunch time, I guess I wanted to speculate on the actual value of my diploma.
Life sciences major? In the U.S.? Tough break, kid.

where starting pay will be $30,000-40,000.
Eh heh heh heh....

*dies*

I wanted to give a heads up to a small percentage of people who haven't considered the tentative value of a college diploma.
As someone once put it to me, "B.S. is worth BS." But it's better than starving. So. Study hard, work hard, play hard die early.
 

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Life sciences major? In the U.S.? Tough break, kid.
My actual major is biotechnology. It tends to be more lab oriented than life science as we run more experimental classes in setting up DNA blots, culture plates, and tagging sequences. As far as life science goes in the United States, it's not that hard. A lot of people over exaggerate how hard our school work is, especially people interested in pre-professional schools.


ElNino said:
Eh heh heh heh....*dies*
I'm interested in studying crop cultures and genetically inserting disease resistance into staple diet foods such as potatoes. I understand that my knowledge is feeble compared to what I could comprehend as a Master or a PhD student. But I really want to go into the work force and find out what it means to have a real job before I go back for another couple years of schooling. I also wouldn't mind getting a degree in law and working out intellectual property laws regarding agriculture plant strains. I feel that there needs to be more regulations on companies and more effort put into protecting national farmers. America has been in a deficit in the past decade due to a lack of proper policy in numerous sectors of the economy.

ElNino said:
As someone once put it to me, "B.S. is worth BS." But it's better than starving. So. Study hard, work hard, play hard die early.
Words of wisdom.
 

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That was a nice read. It didn't exactly inspired me, but it was a good read...
I'm one of those kids who's snapped. Despite the fact that I'm only a senior in high school, I've kind of given up on school since last year.

Ever since I was little, I'd work my *** off in order to get 100s, A+, etc. And every time I got less than 90, it bothered me. I guess that I overdid it, can't work for **** anymore. Hate it.
 

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As far as life science goes in the United States, it's not that hard. A lot of people over exaggerate how hard our school work is, especially people interested in pre-professional schools.
Well, I wasn't talking about school work; I was taking a jab at post-graduation career prospects.

I'm interested in studying crop cultures and genetically inserting disease resistance into staple diet foods such as potatoes.
Oh boy.... *headdesk* I knew you guys would come back to haunt me.

But I really want to go into the work force and find out what it means to have a real job before I go back for another couple years of schooling.
Not a bad idea, though the job market is really tough right now.

America has been in a deficit in the past decade due to a lack of proper policy in numerous sectors of the economy.
To put things mildly.

@Ryu:

Despite the fact that I'm only a senior in high school, I've kind of given up on school since last year.

Ever since I was little, I'd work my *** off in order to get 100s, A+, etc. And every time I got less than 90, it bothered me. I guess that I overdid it, can't work for **** anymore. Hate it.
I think I know exactly what you mean. The painful truth is that it's hard to make it without some form of schooling or training. So, if you've "snapped," there's good reason for you to get those issues taken care of so you can work for your future. School is something that could break you if you go into it without taking care of your mental state first. I know it ain't glamorous or anything; life is just mundane and brutal at the same time. But it's something you have to do for yourself, if no one else.

/pep talk
 

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That was a nice read. It didn't exactly inspired me, but it was a good read...
I'm one of those kids who's snapped. Despite the fact that I'm only a senior in high school, I've kind of given up on school since last year.

Ever since I was little, I'd work my *** off in order to get 100s, A+, etc. And every time I got less than 90, it bothered me. I guess that I overdid it, can't work for **** anymore. Hate it.
That's okay. Everyone needs some time to get their life and goals together. I would be lying if I said I was a model student. I enjoy blogging across different forum boards, but I make it up with all-nighters and working hard when it comes to crunch time. I do what I love.

I can understand with being a perfectionist. Especially since I wanted to be try my hardest and see what rank I would place in high school. Being burned out is fine. Whenever I got seriously depressed I would attempt to discover who I really was as a person and try to find my own meaning for life. I can't say that it will work for you. It's hard to find meaning, especially as a student. Don't force yourself, but don't overdo it to the point of developing regrets of this period of downtime. Take it slow but don't abandon everything. Keep in mind that you still have a wonderful future ahead of you.
 

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Great read, aside from the part about it was put how necessarry your grades are over other even things, like experience.

But El Nino has that part covered all ready.

I do understand where you are coming from bringing those points to the table the way you did though. A couple people I used to work with put the "party life" way ahead of their work and right now they're trying to pay off a debt that some of them can't even use anything of.

I have yet to go to college myself. It's a big investment and kinda of pointless, when you don't know what you want to do for pretty much the rest of your life.

Originally I had been considering something relevent to some computer technology, whether it be programming, networking, web page design, maybe something in the video game industry lol, but it's too crowded of a field for me. It's always changing which is cool to us consumers, but too alot of people who work in that industry, it has to be an interesting possible annoyance at best or a nightmare/job breaker at worst.

Psychology interests me, but that is a big investment of not only resources, but time. I don't know if I want to go to school for the length of time it would take to get through that.

I guess if I don't figure something out, my uncle is a correction's officer. I know from him that it's a pretty easy job and pretty good money. That's more of a last resort though, should something happen and I can't go to school or I'm still as undecisive as I am now.

In these times a job at a place like a gas station or store isn't going to get you anywhere, full time or not. I too, have to do something but, for right now, because I don't know what I want to do and my life is still pretty much at rock bottom so I don't really have the motivation to do it well and right or even really think about it, saving money is all I can focus on.

That really sucks that things worked out for you that way Reiatsu. I would just take a break if you haven't and then not load yourself so heavy the next time.
 

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Good read!

My HS has over 4400 students. I used to be a great student. When I entered HS, I was suddenly mediocre! (****!) I've been pushing ambitiously to be a better student. I've constantly taken more AP classes. I've increased my GPA each year. I've also gotten less and less sleep.

As a 2nd-semester senior, I am re-evaluating my character. Is it worth working this hard? Will this really ensure a brighter future? (Right now, it's midnight and I'm deciding whether to do the rest of my homework or call in sick tomorrow). My father graduated from ****ing Cornell University, but he's exhausted, miserable, and middle-class. I am no where near his level, so where will I end up when I'm 40?

Of course, there are no absolute answers in life to anything. Some people are raised to enjoy life. I was raised to be ambitious. After reviewing my life thus far, I've decided to re-embrace ambition. Life is simply easier if you adhere to a personal code or way of life (did you know that religious people are often happier than those who aren't?). I will take a leap of faith and hope that my efforts will be rewarded. I also hope that being ambitious won't keep me from being happy with what I have.

Regarding college, I think students should be true to themselves and embrace their character. It's a risky path, but I think it will make us most happy.
 
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