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So, how is my Fox?

stingers

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Giggidax

Smash Ace
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ur fox is ok. really needs improvement tho but since uve onlyu sed him for 3 weeks i understand. ok what i saw during the falco vs fox match was that u tried to drill falco multiple times near the edge. ending up with u falling over and having to try and recover, falco could have easily taken advantage of that if he was thinking straight.
i guess ur problem there is to learn how to DI ur shorthop dairs instead of dash shorthop dairs.
shine combo more, drill shine, nair shine. and always try and jc ur shines or wavedash out.
i saw u Fsmashing ur opponent at low %'s in all ur videos. he easily CC'd it and then countered, i found that a lesson to learn from. so basically try and keep fsmashes to a minimum when ur opponent is at low %'s. other than that, just keep beastin it!

oh and also i dont htink i saw u grab as much as u should have. fox is fast so just dashdance and go in for a grab whenever ur oppnent falls for the dashdance. but try not to spam dashdancing cuz then ur opponent will catch on leaving u to look like an idiot dashdancing for no reason lol!
 

Seison

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not bad at all for only having used fox for 2 weeks. I know people who have played ssbm for years who might lose to you. (don't let that get to your head though.. the ppl i'm thinking of don't use any technical manuevers)

I saw you wavedash backwards a few times in one of the videos. you're on the right track, you just need to make SH-ing WD-ing and WS-ing become second nature, which will come with practice.

keep at it. looks promising so far.
 

_Phloat_

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Not bad at all, you are better than most of the smash population at this point, counting the people who have never heard of advanced techs :) All I can say is listen to the really smart people of smashboards and continue on the road of improvement.

~JC all your shines, WD out of them if you want to have some killer combos
~Don't give up if you are being combo'd! DI, it will save you
~Know all the small things, like in the second video you illusion, hit the edge, and died. Know that battlefield has tiny ledges, smaller than the ones you see.
~This may seem a little odd, but exercise before something big, I run, and when I do I am a lot more relaxed, and I can focus, it really helps to be even slightly fit
~Have a helluva lotta fun playing!
 

Ghettoman

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Umm. . . Everything's been said already. I'm a fan of laser spaming, so why not get a few extra percents in when they are far away?
 

King Leonidas

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Know your matchups. You can CG Falco, then U-Smash, then death or uair. Also, play someone competent. The Falco did no shine combos, and couldn't edgeguard.
 

Thunderbolt

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not bad at all for only having used fox for 2 weeks. I know people who have played ssbm for years who might lose to you. (don't let that get to your head though.. the ppl i'm thinking of don't use any technical manuevers)

I saw you wavedash backwards a few times in one of the videos. you're on the right track, you just need to make SH-ing WD-ing and WS-ing become second nature, which will come with practice.

keep at it. looks promising so far.
What kind of people do you talk to?
 

Seison

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What kind of people do you talk to?
Umm I kind of already answered that, but if you can't deduce it from my post, I know people who have played smash casually for years (NOT competitively) who don't use any advanced techniques.
 

Tundravalco

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yeah everyone said it already just cancel your shines and you'll be alot faster and after that learn to air > waveshine > basically anything you want to continue the combo with. also alittle more lasers here and there wouldnt hurt.
 

Miharu

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Don't randomly fsmash. The only time I'd really use it would be as an edgeguard, or run past them and do a dash-cancelled fsmash. Don't rely on fsmash so much; use more aerials (primarily nair), and cancel most into shine, or if not, depending on DI, into utilt, a grab, usmash, dsmash, dtilt, and so on. Cancel your shines faster.

As of right now, there's not much for you to do except to know your matchups better, and work on all the Fox basics. Otherwise than that, there's not much we can do to help you now.
 

Dark_Meow1

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Other then learning techs, your good with throws. I'd say you need to learn how to use the shine spiking more effectively (don't do it unless you need to), such as the beginning of vid 1. And also, you should use alot more dtilts and utilts (they are really good for comboing), and star shl-ing, with shfflcing (thats important). Try more creative recoveries as well ^.^

EDIT: My fox actually got 10 times better over the course of a week and one huge az tourney ^.^ Its about the heart (as cliche as it is)
 

Sync99

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practice shothup, WD and waveshrine
No. Short hops are good, but some Fox players do fine without EVER short-hopping, and waveshining is just unnecessary--don't bother until you get the more important skills down:

Other then learning techs, your good with throws. I'd say you need to learn how to use the shine spiking more effectively (don't do it unless you need to), such as the beginning of vid 1. And also, you should use alot more dtilts and utilts (they are really good for comboing), and star shl-ing, with shfflcing (thats important). Try more creative recoveries as well
The tilts are good to throw in once in a while, not so much the down, but the utilt sets up lots of combos. Shl-ing isn't important either, but otherwise Dark Meow's right... THROWS are big w/ Fox (upthrow) and shine spiking only against a few characters. My advice to you is to break some of the habits you have (like jumping off the ledge and fsmashing out of the blue) and take it slow. Learn how to be fast but also patient, remembering that even though YOU want to get better you have to watch your opponent. I see a lot of potential in your Fox, especially if you've only just picked him up, because you are already using mindgames and being patient when other Fox players would just be trying to shine the hell out of their opponents. Plus, Xeno is a cool smash name :)
 
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