Vect0r
Smash Journeyman
I haven't seen many.
Or is it just that the Ice Climbers aren't popular for competitive play? Fill me in.
Or is it just that the Ice Climbers aren't popular for competitive play? Fill me in.
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So few Ice Climber mainers?
- Thread starter Vect0r
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The IC's are amazing. They have multiple 0-death combos. The problem is, the IC's have a VERY steep learning curve, and until you get past that learning curve, you aren't going to be good. That's why you don't see many IC mainers, they are just so hard to learn (alt grabs, desync, etc) and they are very technical. MK is extremely easy to learn and that's why there are a flurry of MK mains. However, the IC mains you do hear about are amazing.
ChibiIceClimberz
Smash Ace
^ Eh, don't forget their Squall, it needs precise timing for it to get it very high lulz. 
But I don't think that is why they're hard to learn, Squall just needs the correct timing, and it's impossible to get it right to get it to the highest so that may not need practice. And also.... their combos! 0.0
I'm an IC main, but I see some IC mains around these boards, but they're kinda underrated I guess. And what K_2 said... they're very hard to master. And plus people want to main them because of their CGs, but that's not right, they'll have to learn it later, first desynchs and their basic combats and then the CGs. O.o
But I don't think that is why they're hard to learn, Squall just needs the correct timing, and it's impossible to get it right to get it to the highest so that may not need practice. And also.... their combos! 0.0I'm an IC main, but I see some IC mains around these boards, but they're kinda underrated I guess. And what K_2 said... they're very hard to master. And plus people want to main them because of their CGs, but that's not right, they'll have to learn it later, first desynchs and their basic combats and then the CGs. O.o
KRDsonic
Smash Master
The reason there aren't that many IC mains is because they take a long time to get good with, and most people would rather go for an easier character like Meta Knight or Falco.
streetracr77
Smash Journeyman
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I'm surprised how few IC mainers there are. I think it's because it's hard to master their chain grabs and desynching. And the fact that there are other characters that are easier to get better with faster.
smaci92
Smash Lord
^ This. Ice climbers are the hardest characters to master in brawl in my opinion...but once you're good with them, they ****!
ChibiIceClimberz
Smash Ace
Eh, maybe when they look at the IC videos and try to master them, maybe they tried to give up because they couldn't try mastering desynching and CGing... eh, that's how hard they are to master, but if that person never gives up on learning the techniques, then I guess he/she will learn better. :D
Fly_Amanita
Master of Caribou
I think ICs are easier to use than most other characters, but that's just me.
You don't see a lot of ICs mains because most people are lame.
You don't see a lot of ICs mains because most people are lame.
How the heck do you get them to gain altitude on their squall? I can never seem to make them go up. I can only make them stay at the same height. Do you have to mash b or do you have to hit b at a precise frame?^ Eh, don't forget their Squall, it needs precise timing for it to get it very high lulz.
I'm an IC main, but I see some IC mains around these boards, but they're kinda underrated I guess. And what K_2 said... they're very hard to master. And plus people want to main them because of their CGs, but that's not right, they'll have to learn it later, first desynchs and their basic combats and then the CGs. O.o
ChibiIceClimberz
Smash Ace
Eh, I press the B button lightly and fast, and woah, they go up high like R.O.B's recovery + his jump and about Luigi's Cyclone + Super Jump Punch trick. I know it's hard but I just repeatedly tap B lightly and faster and there, it's very high and you can see how the ICs are a lot separated after the move. But sometimes the timing I do doesn't work, it goes the same length and then after the move, they separate a bit. And then online, online makes Squall even hard to perform.
Or... maybe hit B at a precise frame. And I THINK when you hear the bumping sounds on their Squall, do the precise timing and maybe it will work.
Or... maybe hit B at a precise frame. And I THINK when you hear the bumping sounds on their Squall, do the precise timing and maybe it will work.
choknater
Smash Obsessed
We mained Ice Climbers in Melee. It takes a while for people to get used to the character.
I desynch fluently, and was able to discover all the
useful
But yeah, there are harder characters to master... mostly because you have to look below the surface to find their most effective play style. Peach, Fox, Toon Link, and others... for them it's all in the strategy, and IMO that takes much longer to master than simple brickwalls strategies like IC's blizzard/cg style or Snake's nade camping.
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
bringing ICs to a tourney can be fun because most people aren't prepared for them. its funny watching them flail around on their controller when you get them in an Ice Block Lock.
lol. Or as they helplessly try to mash out of an alt grab. =P
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
choknater
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KRDsonic
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JustNoOne
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3...2...1... GO!
(Waits 10 seconds)
The winner is Captain Falcon!
Pretty much the learning curve is high and people don't want to work their *** off to main ICs, so that's why they pick MK. It's also a saying that lazy people make the world advanced more. =D
(Waits 10 seconds)
The winner is Captain Falcon!
Pretty much the learning curve is high and people don't want to work their *** off to main ICs, so that's why they pick MK. It's also a saying that lazy people make the world advanced more. =D
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
you ever seen the movie Idiocracy? thats essentially the message of the entire movie.
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
lives are for people who don't have direction.
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
odd things are fun.
*P*L*U*R*
Smash Hero
some people, like in melee pick up ic to learn to be gay w/ grabs. they go to a tourney, realize people can space and f*ck nana up and realize "hey, its not that simple".
such is the story of alot of ic players.
such is the story of alot of ic players.
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
there. i fix'd it for you. >_>
I know why there aren't that many.......they're boring. Characters that are based around their grab game are almost always only for competitive players...........there is no such thing as Icies in friendlies and so most people don't enjoy them like competitive players do.
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
*cough*
1. i don't use cgs
2. i ALWAYS use ics in friendlies.
3. they are the funnest characters to play with, hands down. body guarding and watching your opponent flip out because their projectile attack got canceled out by an ice block is one of the most rewarding feelings in the world.
smaci92
Smash Lord
1. They're not boring...Know what your talking about before you say anything.
2. They aren't based on their grab game. You obviously don't know anything about Ice Climbers if you think that it's all about the grabs...
3. We all use Ice Climbers in friendlies all the time...
4. everything FrozenPopo said above me...
5. Don't come back to the IC boards until you know your stuff---"Ice Climber hater"...
momochuu
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You're an idiot. Go back to spamming Din's please. ^__^.
ignore the fire
Smash Journeyman
i kind of agree.
i'm not trying to start a fight, but if you're good with the ICs, you'll know that they're not very good. they don't have many matchups strongly in their favor. the only thing they have that's advantagous for them are grabs. i KNOW IC play is not solely based on grabs, but they seem very limitted in terms of HOW they can be played. i main them and probably always will, but i have alot more fun as other characters because it makes the game alot faster. ICs are just slower paced.
again, don't want to start a fight. i love the IC
A lot of people don't MAIN IC's, but I have them as a sort of back up character. I rarely use them just because I like using Wario more and I do perfect with going all Wario in tourneys, but I know of some people that have them as secondaries or backup.
I never get a chance to use them in friendlies locally. It is of the opinion of the locals that IC's are cheap with CG's and quite a few people I know will refuse to play me if I try to pick them in friendlies. That is part of the problem I think about why people don't main them; u still get flack from people for picking them and using CG's.
I never get a chance to use them in friendlies locally. It is of the opinion of the locals that IC's are cheap with CG's and quite a few people I know will refuse to play me if I try to pick them in friendlies. That is part of the problem I think about why people don't main them; u still get flack from people for picking them and using CG's.
choknater
Smash Obsessed
aint nothin wrong with the cg's yo
but yea people are gay like that
but yea people are gay like that
lordterken
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I trying to make Ice climbers my best but i'm torn to be Wario to. PS. IC are cute
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
uh, i happen to main them.... i bring them out as my starter and i wipe the floor with them, and i don't even use cgs.
just because you generalize about people doesn't make you right.
Lolwut? My post wasn't an insult or a generalization. I just said that I use them as a secondary sometimes and that I would use them more if I did not enjoy using Wario a tad more. I was also pointing out that quite a few people I know have them as secondaries, even though they aren't true "mains" of the IC's.
Now as far as the CG's are concerned, I said the locals in my area hate the IC's CG's and they refuse to play against me if I pick them, even in friendlies. I never said that I thought they were cheap, or that IC mains have to rely on them to win, I just gave a reason why some people won't play as them because others around will whine and complain about it.
I still don't know how you saw my post as offensive lol, but I hope I cleared it up.
BlueTerrorist
Smash Ace
People whine to much when you pick them and they are very hard to use. I dunno, we haven't seen someone bring out the beast in them yet. Maybe 1 or 3 people :3?
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
your first sentence is what annoyed me. 'nobody MAINS the ICs, they just use them as a backup' thing. i think plenty of people use them as there mains outside of tourneys (enough at least that so many people have them as their primary.Lolwut? My post wasn't an insult or a generalization. I just said that I use them as a secondary sometimes and that I would use them more if I did not enjoy using Wario a tad more. I was also pointing out that quite a few people I know have them as secondaries, even though they aren't true "mains" of the IC's.
Now as far as the CG's are concerned, I said the locals in my area hate the IC's CG's and they refuse to play against me if I pick them, even in friendlies. I never said that I thought they were cheap, or that IC mains have to rely on them to win, I just gave a reason why some people won't play as them because others around will whine and complain about it.
I still don't know how you saw my post as offensive lol, but I hope I cleared it up.
I wasn't saying no one mains them, I was just saying that there are plenty of people I know that have them as secondaries instead of mains. Kinda like if someone made a "So few Wario mains?" thread, It's true that most people don't main him or the IC's, but plenty of people have him as a secondary IMO. That was the link I was trying to establish, not trying to detract from the IC mains out there.