So dair really isn't that great, what do you use instead?

[splat5]

So here's the situation, I always find myself getting up-thrown or up-smashed or up-something'd during a match whilst my opponent is just waiting for me to land to up-smash me again or something to send me straight back up and after playing a lot of fox, i can't help but immediately dair and up-tilt. however, here's my problem, IC's dair has a lot of end lag even after you land it and not much knockback so it's easily punishable. i was wondering what do you guys use instead? right now i'm just air-dodging and DI-ing away til i get my feet back on the ground.

thanks in advance.

 

[Bnzaaa]

I use a mix of D-airs, air dodges, or N-airs to get back on the ground. Sometime's I will use the Ice Block to give myself a little height before landing to throw off my opponent's timing, and then land. Or I use Squall hammer to try to out manuver and land to their side, since it can make you drop like a rock.

You have to find ways to keep your opponent guessing. That's generally what I do, but other's have different ways of dealing with landing on the stage.

 

[ignore the fire]

agreed.
dair is effective as it out prioritizes many attacks, but you still need to mix it up with air dodges. a synched squall is also a good means of getting back to the ground.

 

[Dabuz]

aerial blizzard and fairs, nuff said

 

[PyroSpark]

Blizzard does wonders...

 

[PyroSpark]

GOD DARN IT! now i have to change my av!

 

[neon..?]

i love the ice climbers dair.

 

[Z1GMA]

Dair is a very good surprise attack, but don't use it too often!

Side+B & down+B should be used from time to time!

Include DI and airdodge in the mix too and you have a nice, versatile, falling bag stuffed with candy for you opponent!

 

[DemonicTrilogy]

I don't like Down air as an attack. I only use it to get to the ground quickly since Ice Climbers are so floaty...

 

[Rykard]

dair cuts through metaknights up b which is always a plus.

the only problem with blizzard is your opponent can just run to the non blizzarding side and punish you when you land or get right under you, sheild and then punish you from there.

 

[Miller]

Honestly, you should wonder why you place Iceys if you use Dair >_> It's a horrible, horrible move. Use anything but dair >_>

 

[Speedsk8er]

Honestly, you should wonder why you place Iceys if you use Dair >_> It's a horrible, horrible move. Use anything but dair >_>

But it makes that cute "pyooooooo..." sound...

 

[Miller]

But it makes that cute "pyooooooo..." sound...

Doing it for the lulz in the art of suiciding is one thing but doing it to harm your opponent is another >_>

 

[Slush]

Haha! thats just the thing though, you fake them out by using aerial blizzards and the aerial Forward-B then when they don't expect it, DAIR!

 

[choknater]

Use it if you are definitely going to connect and you won't be punished for it.

Duh.

Spoiler

Hint: No move is useless. Not even Warlock Punch.

 

[Kitamerby]

I use Dair if my opponent lacks enough ground speed to punish me, or if they're right under me and not expecting anything. Otherwise, I'll just FF an airdodge or toss out a few ice blocks to slow them down.

If all else fails, go for the ledge.

On another note, Choknater wins this thread. Every move has a purpose, but many are just highly situational. Ganon's Up Tilt is an extremely good shield breaker, which of course leads into a reversed Warlock Punch, and Warlock Punch can also be used as a substitute recovery move from up high.