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Snake players, how do you handle against StarFox characters?

Young Kai

Smash Rookie
Joined
Nov 20, 2008
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I mostly play characters not used by most people. But for the life of me, if there's anything that pisses me off more, it's a person who boasts about how great their Fox is when all they do is patterns.

Particularly, I've got a friend who always goes for the Smash moves Fox has and I've noticed he never uses c-stick or Fox's tilts or even his Side-B move as a recovery (he's still more used to the N64 SSB). Likewise he always aims to do the Uair move Fox has whenever he can. Another thing he constantly does is spam the A-combo attack and his laser. Hardly uses the reflector because he underestimates it's potential and frankly all he does is boasts about how great his Fox is.

I main Marth and have so far faired even with him. But right now I've practiced Snake especially with that knee of his. What else can you suggest I do as Snake?

He is a novice when it comes to terms such as footstool and spiking.
 

misterpimp5757

Smash Ace
Joined
Jun 10, 2008
Messages
594
Location
Turn Around...
crawl under lasers, try to mindgame with nades since they always look forward to the reflector, and try camping along with abusive tilts.
 

8AngeL8

Smash Lord
Joined
Oct 4, 2008
Messages
1,298
Location
Dallas, TX
TL;DR, camp with 'nades and space with ftilt, lol.

Also, crouch under their lasers and use dtilt or utilt or snake dash depending on what they do.
 

Shady Penguin

Smash Lord
Joined
Aug 14, 2008
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1,150
Location
North Carolina
Just to let you know, Marth is better against Fox than Snake is.

Actually, Marth is very arguably Fox's worst match-up.

That aside, don't try grenade camping. Fox has the advantage if you choose to go into a camping war.

Try crawling when he uses his blaster and make liberal use of your tilts to shut out his attacks.
 

fromundaman

Henshin a go-go Baby!
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Miamisburg, OH
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Quick comment: You go on and on about how bad your friend is, then say you go even with him with what is possibly his worst match-up? I just found that kind of funny...
 

Karmacide

Smash Lord
Joined
Mar 26, 2002
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1,661
Location
Somewhere over the Rainbow
I like how everyone thats replied to him has said something about camping and spacing with tilts.
I just wanted to take part in the running gag. :)

To the OP:

1) Be careful with the grenades. His laser will blow them up in your face if he's laser spamming.

2) If he has you caught in a combo you can't easily escape from (up-tilt->up-tilt->up-tilt...), pulling out a grenade will blow you both up for an escape.

3) Camp with 'nades and space with ftilt. (Fox really has trouble approaching the ftilt.)
 

Shadow_of_Link

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Jul 15, 2008
Messages
174
Location
Texas
Fox always gives me a bit of trouble, but from my experience nades and Ftilt do him justice. Also, take advantage of your friend's "smashiness," and shield his smashes and punish with ftilt or utilt.

And a random tip, never follow Fox in the air with in aerial, he will either shine stall to dair, or dair, both of which do quite good against Snake.
 
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